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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
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DisneyCane
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We visit often so our park touring style isn't too heavily based on ride count. Strolling to Epcot for a few hours to get some food and adult beverages is a great way to end our day.
The walk from Boardwalk to HS is appx 15-20 minutes (and feels much shorter with a cold beer in hand for the journey), so we often head there in the evenings for dinner reservations or just to ride ToT and do some shopping.
We're in the same boat. We like to use Epcot for dining/relaxation and maybe hop on a ride or two. A lot of times we would have FP+ at MK in the afternoon of our arrival day and drove up early for breakfast inside the land.
GoofGoof
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It doesn’t change the risk level. All it does is formalize what most people already knew was likely the case. Eating indoor at a restaurant is higher risk than eating outdoor on its face. Eating indoor in a mostly empty restaurant is most likely less risky than eating outdoor on a packed patio. The details impact the level of risk. If you have the same number of people and the tables spaced the same distance indoor will almost always be more risky than outdoor.
carolina_yankee
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for some of us who have been paying attention we will ask the question, "is water wet?"
But for others here is your confirmation ( I have added 2 sources for the "hAhAhA cNn" crowd)
Updated CDC guidance acknowledges coronavirus can spread through the air
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated guidance on its website to say coronavirus can commonly spread "through respiratory droplets or small particles, such as those in aerosols," which are produced even when a person breathes.www.cnn.com
CDC deletes coronavirus airborne transmission guidance, says update was 'draft version'
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a correction on its website Monday, saying a draft of proposed changes, including guidance on airborne transmission of coronavirus, was posted in error.www.foxnews.com
I have trouble understanding how this is news? Hasn't this been the assumption/knowlege for quite some time?
Our diocesan epidemiologists have told churches in our diocese that unmasked readers must be 20 feet away, unmasked singers 30 feet away (unless behind plexiglass), and masked people six feet away.
Our musicians' professional societies have been operating on that understanding for some time and have even developed masks specifically for singers. If people have been following guidance, this news doesn't provoke a change in anything.
Everything consistently seems to come down "mask, distance, wash hands, ventilate well." If we can do that, we can do most things.
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carolina_yankee
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Assuming some sort of pattern to daily fluctuations, I've been comparing to numbers a week ago. 9/13 had more positives, but lower positivity and more testing. 9/20 has slightly lower positives, higher positivity and less testing. That tells me there is more COVID out there on 9/20 than on 9/13, it just didn't get caught.
Mondays also seem to be consistently low report days. By the end of last week, it was clear that weekly positives were up.
carolina_yankee
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Is there a diagnosis for Twitter whiplash?
sullyinMT
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Honest question here regarding dining, as it could change how people feel about the risk of places like Tony’s, Plaza Restaurant or the backside (dining room away from the bar) of Rose&Crown (and I’m sure a few others):
Most of us are familiar with establishments that are indoors in that there are walls and a ceiling. But then the space is adaptable to an al fresco-ish situation with garage door style partitions or massive windows so that diners get more fresh air than a traditional dining room, while still being largely protected from the elements. Is this an “in between” solution, or solidly indoors or out?
GoofGoof
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There’s definitely a weekend dip every week now. I guess that’s a good sign that the speed of getting test results back has gotten better. For a while there with such long delays the weekend dip was basically gone.
oceanbreeze77
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I'm not sure much will change from this "draft" (hopefully not) because this new information was officially first reported from the CDC yesterday afternoon.
GoofGoof
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I’m no expert, but logic tells me the more freely circulating the air the better. So if you are outside fresh air is moving in constantly. An indoor location with really good airflow is better than one that‘s closed off. The worst scenario is an indoor location with AC or heat that recirculates the same air.
hopemax
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According to EpiTwitter, where it might change things is for places like schools and offices, where decision makers have taken the stance to follow CDC guidelines, but to the letter. Their way of handling the two sides calling for their heads for doing too much/not enough. So things like who is a "close contact" in a classroom. Common sense would say anyone in the room for would qualify, but I posted earlier about the school board that considered moving kids every 14 minutes so no kid could be defined as a close contact. Apparently, they weren't the only place that was going to go with that sort of definition. Or places that didn't feel the need to include open windows / proper ventilation. One comment I saw is that too many are using the CDC guidelines, like 6', to determine their stopping points and not a starting point. My additional thought, places need to evaluate their environment and respond accordingly. But we know how those things go.
And now I see the update.
oceanbreeze77
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Yes it has been an assumption. Thats why the CDC updating it is such a big deal.
sullyinMT
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I was thinking the same thing, which is also why airlines have made such a big deal about their cabin refresh rates, or whatever the industry term is.
Disstevefan1
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Wow, I am glad today, September 21, the CDC just announced COVID is airborne! I would not have known otherwise
sullyinMT
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I’m sure we’ll see an update soon, but I’d imagine some disclosure regarding unknown viral load that could lead to infection, or language reinforcing mask compliance. The things that have already been discussed here.
Or some other spin that will cause collective heads to explode
and keep us guessing.oceanbreeze77
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It is a big deal that the CDC is stating this because for so long we have heard "Well we are going by CDC guidelines." "Lets see what the CDC says" "The CDC actually says this so we are following the rules."
It doesnt matter what everyone assumed, companies, people, and workplaces have been operating based on CDC guidelines.Like someone mentioned on this forum, many have been operating as if it were not an airborne disease, because the CDC never said it was. I think the CDC making it official changes the game a bit.
It doesnt matter what everyone assumed, companies, people, and workplaces have been operating based on CDC guidelines.Like someone mentioned on this forum, many have been operating as if it were not an airborne disease, because the CDC never said it was. I think the CDC making it official changes the game a bit.
sullyinMT
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Because it was never true otherwise.
*sarcasm
carolina_yankee
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I still don't understand the big deal. Our state guidelines have been structured with that assumption in mind. Therefore, nothing changes.
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