Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Giss Neric

Giss Neric

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This dude Facebook live himself while getting kicked out of HS due to non-compliance with wearing a mask. This is a snippet of it. He paid a lot of money, made reservations, only to do this....


In my opinion, since this is Hollywood Studios, most likely he didn't get a boarding pass that's why he did this.
 
ImperfectPixie

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Giss Neric said:
This dude Facebook live himself while getting kicked out of HS due to non-compliance with wearing a mask. This is a snippet of it. He paid a lot of money, made reservations, only to do this....


In my opinion, since this is Hollywood Studios, most likely he didn't get a boarding pass that's why he did this.
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He's a preacher with over 102,000 followers. He absolutely did this as a means to garner more.
 
Miss Bella

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DenseWaveTiger said:
Got it. I just wish the CDC would tell us which things they say that are real, and which are just misconstrued context and shabby wording. Because there are millions of people who take everything the CDC says as gospel although they seem to change their story daily.
I mean, it's pretty clear he's saying we wouldn't have this pandemic - or it would be under control (maybe it is???) if we had mandatory masking for 6 to 12 weeks. Hello? That's been the case in virtually every population center in the country for the past 3 months.
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It's probably best not to take everything they say as gospel.
 
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techgeek

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DenseWaveTiger said:
I’ve been out and about constantly for 3 months and seen virtually no one not complying. Except protestors on tv of course. There’s no way the one guy in Walmart wearing it below his nose is infecting everybody.
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Around Central Florida, mask compliance varies wildly and since labor day has been getting visibly lower. You can see 99% on Disney property, but step outside of that and the landscape changes rapidly. Many stores are not enforcing policy, and people have picked up on that... especially outside of Orange / Osceola counties.

My regular grocery store is a very busy location in an area just 35 minutes from Disney. We have no city or county mandate, but there is a chain-wide policy for that store. Employee mask use is 100%, but every time I'm in there I will see several customers without. Not just down off the nose or pulled down around the neck, full-on walking through the door and shopping not even having one on their person. The line from management is that employees are empowered to 'inform, but not enforce'. They can offer a mask to someone without one, but they can't refuse service if they won't take it or put it on. If you go in a convenience store around here, it's literally 50/50 masks / no masks.
 
JoeCamel

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techgeek said:
Around Central Florida, mask compliance varies wildly and since labor day has been getting visibly lower. You can see 99% on Disney property, but step outside of that and the landscape changes rapidly. Many stores are not enforcing policy, and people have picked up on that... especially outside of Orange / Osceola counties.

My regular grocery store is a very busy location in an area just 35 minutes from Disney. We have no city or county mandate, but there is a chain-wide policy for that store. Employee mask use is 100%, but every time I'm in there I will see several customers without. Not just down off the nose or pulled down around the neck, full-on walking through the door and shopping not even having one on their person. The line from management is that employees are empowered to 'inform, but not enforce'. They can offer a mask to someone without one, but they can't refuse service if they won't take it or put it on. If you go in a convenience store around here, it's literally 50/50 masks / no masks.
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Walmart solved that by hiring private security to deal with the no maskers so the employees don't have to. You don't get in the store without a mask, what happens after that is a different story. Overall compliance is very good but there is always someone who wears it on their chin like they are getting over on something by doing it.
 
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DisneyCane

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techgeek said:
Around Central Florida, mask compliance varies wildly and since labor day has been getting visibly lower. You can see 99% on Disney property, but step outside of that and the landscape changes rapidly. Many stores are not enforcing policy, and people have picked up on that... especially outside of Orange / Osceola counties.

My regular grocery store is a very busy location in an area just 35 minutes from Disney. We have no city or county mandate, but there is a chain-wide policy for that store. Employee mask use is 100%, but every time I'm in there I will see several customers without. Not just down off the nose or pulled down around the neck, full-on walking through the door and shopping not even having one on their person. The line from management is that employees are empowered to 'inform, but not enforce'. They can offer a mask to someone without one, but they can't refuse service if they won't take it or put it on. If you go in a convenience store around here, it's literally 50/50 masks / no masks.
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And yet the case numbers and positivity rate seem to be improving slightly since labor day...
 
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techgeek

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DisneyCane said:
And yet the case numbers and positivity rate seem to be improving slightly since labor day...
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There’s likely a % compliance ‘break even’ point somewhere in this equation that is helping the situation... something like most people wearing masks in most situations is good enough to at least lower transmission. Maybe it’s 80%, maybe it’s 50%. Maybe it just has to be the right 50%.

Hypothetically though, even if that were true... does that make it ‘ok’ for someone to self-select Into the ‘I’m not going to wear a mask’ %? At some point, the math breaks down if enough people don’t contribute to it.
 
JoeCamel

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DisneyCane said:
And yet the case numbers and positivity rate seem to be improving slightly since labor day...
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Yet we are far above the June levels (and plateauing in my eyes) so no mission accomplished toss your masks in the air moment.

It is not hard to see what happened, we thought the spring was tough and hunkered, Memorial Day came and by the 4th of July it was spreading fast, we let that die down then Labor Day looks to have caused a plateau. Maybe we decline from here or maybe it spikes again but if the partying and gathering goes on you can expect to wear a mask for a very long time as the cycle continues.
Herd immunity is a myth, by the time you theoretically could achieve that 242 million people would have to have had it. We are at 6.5 million with 200K dead.
A vaccine is maybe a year or slightly less away, the only tools in the box are masks and distance/limit interactions. Vaccine may or may not be what we need, this thing could go away or it could mutate. Better to prepare if you can
 
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