Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Andrew C

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Side note, I thought contact tracing was supposed to help Europe avoid a surge?
And just to make it clear, I’m not happy about this surge in Europe. Especially since I have family there that I care about.
 
GoofGoof

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Andrew C said:
This didn’t stop Europe from having their recent surge in cases. You can’t mask your way out of this. It can be very helpful. But it isn’t the end all, be all as some want to make it out to be.

also both California and Texas have statewide mask mandates. In Florida, it is at more local levels. All three states have been on a similar path.
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This is exactly what I’m talking about on overstating Europe. Their recent “surge“ in cases isn’t anywhere like our summer surge. The surge is to a level that is still well below where FL is today and people are pushing for bars to open and theme park capacity limits to be lifted in FL. Nobody is saying masks will bring cases to zero.
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
GoofGoof said:
is exactly what I’m talking about on overstating Europe.
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They are worried enough to pull back. So I don’t think I’m overstating anything. Maybe they are overreacting? Or maybe the only tool they have is to pull back on openings again because they aren’t confident in strong contact tracing.
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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Andrew C said:
They are worried enough to pull back. So I don’t think I’m overstating anything. Maybe they are overreacting? Or maybe the only tool they have is to pull back on openings again because they aren’t confident in strong contact tracing.
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They are pulling back because the cases increased. That’s in no way evidence that masks don’t work.
 
JoeCamel

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Andrew C said:
They are worried enough to pull back. So I don’t think I’m overstating anything. Maybe they are overreacting? Or maybe the only tool they have is to pull back on openings again because they aren’t confident in strong contact tracing.
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Let's just say "acting with an abundance of caution".
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
For NYC I’m worried because the mayor said they would pull back on these indoor dining reopenings if they hit a 2% positivity rate. Or I believe he said “re-evaluate.” I’m not sure how they stay below this in the fall and through winter (as reopenings continue) unless the herd immunity there has been underestimated. Below 5% seems more reasonable. I think that is the CDC guidance still.
 
danlb_2000

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mmascari said:
I think the impacts are enough larger than the flu that it will have a lasting impact if we never manage to contain it. Commercial real estate back office space (which could be done anyway). Large parts of the service economy around experiences. There's just less experiences people will be willing to do.

There's lots of stuff where the cost/scale trade off means having lots of people or there's no way to make them profitable. How much does a football game ticket need to cost if instead of one seat you have to pay the cost for a quarter section? Can they sell enough to even make that math work?

The same kind of questions for WDW. Have we seen a quarterly report that includes all time when open at reduced capacity? Do we know if they're making money, breaking even, or just losing less than being closed would lose?

Other new things will come up too. Mask making replaced other clothing work. New small scale experiences. New tutoring and small scale teaching centers.

We were already seeing take out only restaurants, at least in areas with high delivery concentration.

Some things will make the transition, others will not. It'll be rough for many.
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A transition works short term, but I don't think it will last long term. Worst case, if there is no lasting natural immunity and no effective vaccine, people will eventually go back to the way things were and will just have to accept the deaths the same way we accept 100's of thousands of cancer and heart disease deaths every year. I don't believe people will ever accept permanent social distancing.
 
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easyrowrdw

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Andrew C said:
This didn’t stop Europe from having their recent surge in cases. You can’t mask your way out of this. It can be very helpful. But it isn’t the end all, be all as some want to make it out to be.

also both California and Texas have statewide mask mandates. In Florida, it is at more local levels. All three states have been on a similar path.
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I think you can mask your way out of it, but you can't mask mandate your way out of it - as it doesn't cover private behaviors. When you're getting together at home with your friends and family (or you're in college going to a party), there's no requirement to wear a mask. And those are also likely instances where you're spending extended time around people. We've heard at various times that these types of social interactions are driving many of the infections recently.
 
Flugell

Flugell

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Just for information from Manchester in the U.K. our local newspaper, The Manchester Evening News is reporting 68 schools have had an outbreak of Covid-19 and have sent kids home as a result. This includes children from the ages of 3-18 . The terrible thing is that schools have only been open for pupils for between 8 and 4 days. Don’t know what else to say but stay safe.
 
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