Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[jmp85]

As long as the percent positive is around 5% or higher there’s not enough testing being done. The problem is more with contact tracing then with finding people to randomly test. I don’t know what the answer is, but you can’t control community spread without adequate testing and tracing. If the goal is just to keep cases low enough to not overwhelm hospitals than mission accomplished.

This assumes 1) adequate contact tracing is being performed, and 2) those who are traced back to potential exposure are willing to get tested and so forth. I think we've collected enough evidence to be sure that neither of these will happen at a sufficient level in Florida, or most of the country. There's a large portion of the population who don't care to cooperate for whatever reason. It is what it is. It's not a capacity issue; we're just riding it out at this point.

 

[GimpYancIent]

Ok, well don’t know what to say if you don’t believe testing helps. Have a magical day!

The results from the test solely will let the person tested know if they are positive or negative at the time the test was administered. In sports and other areas personnel are constantly tested to reassure them that they remain negative. The test itself prevents nothing. Behavioral changes / modifications, mask wearing and all the other things discussed at nauseum help reduce spread. It feels good to be told you are negative, good for stats but it does not help resolve the issue of counteracting the disease. The medical community is still wrestling with that.

 

[easyrowrdw]

At this point in time, to have to explain what testing actually does or how it helps.. I just got a deja vu from like March. It’s incredible.

I think there's a distinction between the value of testing for a community and the value for an individual. From a community standpoint it's very useful. From an individual standpoint it's less so. Absent symptoms or time spent around someone who has Covid, I wouldn't really expect an individual to get tested.

 

[solidyne]

The bolded is correct from my observations.

Yes, indeed. I said this back in February, when we were told to keep politics out...

Impossible. The topic is political. Everything is. Tell me your thoughts on Coronavirus, and I'll tell you who you're voting for!

Edit: not literally you @themom!

...and I got FLAMED for it! Of course, it panned out to be true. (I think both "sides" would agree on that.)

 

[Miss Bella]

How many of you have gotten tested just for the heck of it? It sounds like a fun way to spend a Saturday afternoon.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

I think there's a distinction between the value of testing for a community and the value for an individual. From a community standpoint it's very useful. From an individual standpoint it's less so. Absent symptoms or time spent around someone who has Covid, I wouldn't really expect an individual to get tested.

Agreed. Isn’t this what it’s all about also? Not spreading it through the community? Keeping people around you as safe as we can?
To bring it back around to the thread topic, it also helps people and families wanting to travel to Disney to have the most correct , updated information so they can make informed decisions.

 

[GimpYancIent]

Agreed. Isn’t this what it’s all about also? Not spreading it through the community? Keeping people around you as safe as we can?
To bring it back around to the thread topic, it also helps people and families wanting to travel to Disney to have the most correct , updated information so they can make informed decisions.

Well OK! Get screened and go to WDW. A Dole Whip at MK would sure taste good about now. (Enjoyed while standing still in one spot out of the way of course).

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Well OK! Get screened and go to WDW. A Dole Whip at MK would sure taste good about now.

I’ll pass for now. Make it a citrus swirl though please.

 

[Andrew C]

Yep. NYC is never going to reopen.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Agreed. Isn’t this what it’s all about also? Not spreading it through the community? Keeping people around you as safe as we can?
To bring it back around to the thread topic, it also helps people and families wanting to travel to Disney to have the most correct , updated information so they can make informed decisions.

Oh, definitely. But I think reducing spread is more about what you do than whether or not you get tested. If I don't have symptoms and I'm engaging in safe behaviors (e.g., wearing a mask, avoiding prolonged exposure to others outside my bubble), then the odds of me having the virus are seemingly quite low. As such, I don't feel a need to get tested.

 

[SamusAranX]

Yep. NYC is never going to reopen.
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Can’t tell if you’re being facetious or not; haha

 

[solidyne]

Can’t tell if you’re being facetious or not; haha

Me neither.

Is it facetious: "Those of you who thought NYC wouldn't open are just wrong. Here's the proof of opening."

Or is it: "Oh, man, with these kinds of restrictions, they'll never stay in business."

Hmmm.

 

[SamusAranX]

Me neither.

Is it facetious: "Those of you who thought NYC wouldn't open are just wrong. Here's the proof of opening."

Or is it: "Oh, man, with these kinds of restrictions, they'll never stay in business."

Hmmm.

If indoor dining is as risky as they say it is, and with flu season in swing. I can’t see how it reopening up north causes a spike; then what? If you shut them down, they can’t do outdoor dining or survive on pickup only during the long winter.

economic problems, at least for the service industries, are just beginning

 

[Andrew C]

Can’t tell if you’re being facetious or not; haha

I feel like they are setting themselves up for failure. They will see a slight bump when they “reopen” this fall and panic. Ehh, and it’s NYC so maybe I can’t blame them after what they went through.

 

[Phil12]

Also... when an article says they are reporting what another article says, then go to that article as the source and not a retelling of it (one done badly). The article you posted has a link to the Daily Beast's article for Pete's sake!

Anyhoo.... dedicated discussion of that article has its own thread...

Daily Beast - "Workers Reveal Disney Is Covering Up Its COVID Cases"

This seems worthy of a distinct thread as this is a rather serious accusation. https://www.thedailybeast.com/workers-reveal-disney-is-covering-up-its-covid-cases

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The article was posted for the humor factor.

 

[MisterPenguin]

If you're going to talk about NY...

NYC has less cases per capita than the whole state...

New cases for the whole state are hovering 500-700 daily. At one time it was 10K daily.

Deaths have been from 0-20 per day for the past six weeks. At one time it was nearing one thousand deaths per day.

NY State's positivity got under 2% in June and is now under 1%.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Ok so what would you recommend for me? Go get tested once a week while experiencing no symptoms whatsoever? And BTW, who do you think is paying for all that testing? The government fairy?
The point is there is no reason to test unless you have symptoms or suspect you’ve been exposed. I think it’s asinine to think otherwise. If you do, well...

Actually, I agree with you if and only if the state is also doing random testing so as determine the true rate of positive in relation to the whole state.

 

[Parker in NYC]

Yep. NYC is never going to reopen.
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Good luck with this, NY. With schools reopening, college kids back in town, and now indoor dining, it should be a fun November! Social distancing works in the city, when it’s empty... But in tiny restaurants, all I can do is pray. And the transportation it will take to go to said restaurants — another obstacle.

 

[corsairk09]

I think there's a distinction between the value of testing for a community and the value for an individual. From a community standpoint it's very useful. From an individual standpoint it's less so. Absent symptoms or time spent around someone who has Covid, I wouldn't really expect an individual to get tested.

There is also a huge downside to getting tested if you aren't showing symptoms. If you have no symptoms, get tested and pop positive....that is quarantine time away from work and away from a pay check. My employer... for example.... provides covid days... but you have to go through a request process AFTER the 14 days are up. THat is two weeks no pay. Now many of you will explode over this and say that people need to get tested responsibly for the sake of others. You aren't wrong. However getting tested on a chance that you have it when you could not get paid for half a month..... its a big risk. I think most people really want to do the right thing, but finances are a real part of the decision.

 

[Miss Bella]

There is also a huge downside to getting tested if you aren't showing symptoms. If you have no symptoms, get tested and pop positive....that is quarantine time away from work and away from a pay check. My employer... for example.... provides covid days... but you have to go through a request process AFTER the 14 days are up. THat is two weeks no pay. Now many of you will explode over this and say that people need to get tested responsibly for the sake of others. You aren't wrong. However getting tested on a chance that you have it when you could not get paid for half a month..... its a big risk. I think most people really want to do the right thing, but finances are a real part of the decision.

On the flip side some people get tested in hopes of getting the two week Covid vacation.