Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[SamusAranX]

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Why does it look like FL has decided to stop testing?

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Thinking the dip is due to Labor Day weekend but we will see

 

[oceanbreeze77]

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Why does it look like FL has decided to stop testing?

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I dont think they decided to stop testing so much as the Floridian mind doesn't see it necessary. During the spike everyone was like "oh Sh!@" I need to get tested everyones getting it. Now that the spike has gone down, people feel a false sense of security, similar to what we saw in May.

 

[Andrew C]

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Why does it look like FL has decided to stop testing?

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Less demand?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Thinking the dip is due to Labor Day weekend but we will see

Total number of tests has been on a downward trajectory for a long time now.

 

[deeevo]

Why does it look like FL has decided to stop testing?

Asymptomatic?

 

[Jwink]

Those email messages are from Disney. They are warning you of the risk, but they're not notifying you whether they are calling COVID-positive CMs to work (as is being alleged by DL CMs in The Daily Beast article).

Nobody thinks Disney CMs are immune to the risks of exposure. They may not realize that CMs are concerned that Disney isn't uniformly enforcing its own policies for CMs. No one is saying you (or anyone) should be "shocked" or "surprised" by this. It is simply more information than many of us have, so it's news.

I do know that anyone who GETS covid or REPORTS exposure is being asked to quarantine BUT those exposed TO them are supposed to remain working :/ which is kinda dangerous if they’re asymptomatic

 

[Jwink]

I asked this a week or so ago But refresh my memory... why aren’t the deaths going down?

 

[_caleb]

Tell us, oh vaunted millenial, what does your mind see as necessary? Here in Orange County the positivity has been steadily declining and is now below 5% for almost a week. Should we just continue to wait in line to get jabbed in the lower brain with a sharp stick - even though we are healthy and have no symptoms - just to make people from New Jersey or Ohio feel better?

Nothing says, "I welcome open and honest dialog, done in good faith and with respect" like this post right here. Well done!

 

[Kevin_W]

I asked this a week or so ago But refresh my memory... why aren’t the deaths going down?

The simple answer is: They are. Todays' reported 200 is quite high, but there is always a spike after the weekend (people don't die on Sundays, it seems), and with a holiday weekend this was probably exacerbated.

We'd all like it to go down faster, but it is heading that way. Hospitalizations down ~60% from peak is a good start. (Below data is for Florida.)

 

[hopemax]

I asked this a week or so ago But refresh my memory... why aren’t the deaths going down?

It's reporting lag. The state says, 200 new deaths, but those are deaths that happened sometime over the last month. Because of the holiday, many are from the last several days. But we're back to measuring in dozens and not 100+. There are lots of people on Twitter very concerned about the sensationalized data reporting by media, but at least they make some useful graphs. So here is what FL has been looking like. The dark blue chunks show how today's 200 deaths actually broke down over time.

 

[GoofGoof]

Tell us, oh vaunted millenial, what does your mind see as necessary? Here in Orange County the positivity has been steadily declining and is now below 5% for almost a week. Should we just continue to wait in line to get jabbed in the lower brain with a sharp stick - even though we are healthy and have no symptoms - just to make people from New Jersey or Ohio feel better?

As long as the percent positive is around 5% or higher there’s not enough testing being done. The problem is more with contact tracing then with finding people to randomly test. I don’t know what the answer is, but you can’t control community spread without adequate testing and tracing. If the goal is just to keep cases low enough to not overwhelm hospitals than mission accomplished.

 

[MisterPenguin]

If the goal is just to keep cases low enough to not overwhelm hospitals than mission accomplished.

A interim goal, yes. But, if that is the only goal, then percent positivity can still be relatively high, which could balloon at any time back to a geometric spike in cases leading back to partial lockdowns.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Tell us, oh vaunted millenial, what does your mind see as necessary? Here in Orange County the positivity has been steadily declining and is now below 5% for almost a week. Should we just continue to wait in line to get jabbed in the lower brain with a sharp stick - even though we are healthy and have no symptoms - just to make people from New Jersey or Ohio feel better?

Nothing says, "I welcome open and honest dialog, done in good faith and with respect" like this post right here. Well done!

Lose the personal swipe, but it's actually a good question. Fewer people seemingly aren't feeling the need to be tested. The previous poster called it a false sense of security. But if you're making safe decisions, then it's really not false. Otherwise, those safe decisions would be meaningless. If they don't have symptoms or if they haven't been engaging in "risky" behavior or if they haven't been around someone known to be positive...? Why would they voluntarily get tested?

Perhaps we need to test more in order to get a clearer picture on the scope of infection. But in most situations you can't make people get tested. Thankfully people seem to have bought in on safe behaviors. Absent cheap, comfortable, at-home testing that may be the best we're going to get right now.

 

[Parker in NYC]

Tell us, oh vaunted millenial, what does your mind see as necessary? Here in Orange County the positivity has been steadily declining and is now below 5% for almost a week. Should we just continue to wait in line to get jabbed in the lower brain with a sharp stick - even though we are healthy and have no symptoms - just to make people from New Jersey or Ohio feel better?

Hey, don't attack New Jersey! Do what you wish with Ohio. A terrible ex of mine hailed from Lowell.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Tell us, oh vaunted millenial, what does your mind see as necessary? Here in Orange County the positivity has been steadily declining and is now below 5% for almost a week. Should we just continue to wait in line to get jabbed in the lower brain with a sharp stick - even though we are healthy and have no symptoms - just to make people from New Jersey or Ohio feel better?

Not a millennial here, but to answer the last question you posed.. they are 2, along with PA and NY, the biggest amount of visitors that visit WDW from the states. So if they want them coming to bring in the big bucks, being safe and controlling the percent positive is the best way to do it.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

No healthy person ever stayed safe or kept others safe by taking the test. They are actually exposing themselves to a greater risk by interacting with others and undergoing an invasive procedure.

Ok, well don’t know what to say if you don’t believe testing helps. Have a magical day!

 

[MisterPenguin]

No healthy person ever stayed safe or kept others safe by taking the test. They are actually exposing themselves to a greater risk by interacting with others and undergoing an invasive procedure.

Knowing if you have it so that you can watch for symptoms so as to catch what may be a bad reaction to the virus early is a good thing for you.

Knowing if you have it asymptomatically means you quarantine yourself to stop any possible spread from you.

Knowing how many have the virus in the general population helps those in governance make good decisions, like enforcing lockdowns or not.

Right now in FL, so many fewer people are being tested, that the number of percent positive remains high, which takes away that stat's ability to get a clear picture of the virus's spread. And that keeps FL on other states' quarantine list, which hurts FL's tourism industry.

Also, the way the test is administered is no more dangerous than going to a grocers where everyone is wearing masks and appropriately distancing.

 

[easyrowrdw]

The point of that was to counter the personal swipe about the "Floridian Mind". Pretty sure my Floridian mind will withstand a much higher level of scrutiny than most others from other states. States where natives are welcomed to stay if they feel as though they are among inferiors when they visit here.

Fair enough. I just thought it allowed for a too easy dismissal of the good point you were making.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Knowing if you have it so that you can watch for symptoms so as to catch what may be a bad reaction to the virus early is a good thing for you.

Knowing if you have it asymptomatically means you quarantine yourself to stop any possible spread from you.

Knowing how many have the virus in the general population helps those in governance make good decisions, like enforcing lockdowns or not.

Right now in FL, so many fewer people are being tested, that the number of percent positive remains high, which takes away that stat's ability to get a clear picture of the virus's spread. And that keeps FL on other states' quarantine list, which hurts FL's tourism industry.

Also, the way the test is administered is no more dangerous than going to a grocers where everyone is wearing masks and appropriately distancing.

At this point in time, to have to explain what testing actually does or how it helps.. I just got a deja vu from like March. It’s incredible.

 

[Parker in NYC]

At this point in time, to have to explain what testing actually does or how it helps.. I just got a deja vu from like March. It’s incredible.