That's what happens when most states don't work together. Here in Canada all provinces worked togther to get things better. instead each state did what they felt was in their best interest "me first" Like I said here in Canada it's not like that at all. Kids go back to school next week. All bars and restaurants are open and don't seem to be struggling too much.
Exactly! How many restaurants and other businesses, especially small locally-owned businesses, will have to permanently close their doors because of the financial hit? How many jobs are being lost? How many single parents are struggling with helping their children with online schooling while trying to maintain holding a job? How has this pandemic affected mental health in America- especially in terms of the number of suicides and substance abuse? How much has domestic violence increased the last six months? What about child abuse? Child neglect? All of these are factors that need to be considered as well.
Your ability to survive ANY illness depends on your comorbidities (or lack thereof).
So by your definition only a person who has no underlying health conditions who dies from Covid should be counted? That seems rather narrow a focus. The most common comorbidities are all of the conditions that put people in the higher risk groups to begin with like hypertension and diabetes. So a Covid patient who dies but has high blood pressure shouldn’t count as a Covid death? That makes a whole lot of sense.
First read my post above yours to see how your neighbor is doing with this.
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If an obese patient tests positive for COVID, then suffers a fatal heart attack, should the cause of death be COVID? If he/she had the heart attack a week earlier before being diagnosed, it would be attributed to being obese. Likewise, if an 80-year old longtime diabetic suffers kidney failure and dies after being diagnosed with COVID, how should that be classified? Like I wrote in my original post, most people dying of COVID have close to three other conditions in addition to COVID-19.
See my edit to the post. Read the attached link.
As I understand it, the pathology of a normal heart attack and a normal kidney failure look different than a Covid induced heart attack or Covid induced kidney failure. Not just a positive test, but also the presence of atypical blood clots. The "ground glass" appearance within the lungs. That's how they are determining the difference. Pre-death labs, and post death autopsies.
I completely agree. I am a teacher and we opened schools for students last week. Since preplanning.. 14 days.... the health department protocols have changed twice. TWICE!!! How after six months do we not have a consistent message from the medical community? I believe that education is so important and that we have to have a brick and mortar schools. We are going above and beyond doing everything we can to keep these kids safe but no one can tell us for sure what all of those things are. Protocols change constantly. It’s overwhelming andthe world can’t go on like this.
That’s also why it takes time to determine and announce the cause of death. There’s been people complaining about the lag in death reporting, but it’s not always cut and dry. I believe the vast majority of people on the front lines dealing with treating the patients and responsible for determining the cause of death are doing the best job they can and are not involved in some conspiracy theory.
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There is no excuse for the lack of firm plans. We needed (and still need) stronger leadership focused on results and science instead of peddling conspiracy theories and worrying about politics. It’s tragic to see unfold like this.
The sad answer is a lot. When 20 million are out of work they are not out spending money in bars, stores and restaurants
Nobody asked for this and nobody wants it to last longer. We all need to do our part to help get as much of the economy up and running as possible. There Is a false narrative out there that there‘s a choice between the economy and public health. In reality the best thing for the economy is a reduction in cases so those things work hand in hand. As an example look at some bars that opened this summer. Instead of following social distancing and mask requirements they packed people in. That lead to a major surge in cases which lead to a lot of states closing bars again. So the short term money grab of packing the bar with people lead to a long term huge negative for all bar owners. If everyone does things the right way than more can be open and more people will be comfortable participating in the economy. That takes buy in from the public as well as business owners. Stop the Covid denial, the conspiracy theories, the resistance to masks and/or distancing and get with the program.
I did not want to dive into this discussion because I have much more important things to do, but I need to add my .02 to this. My father is 78 years old. He has dementia, circulation issues, high blood pressure and is almost two years removed from his second heart attack that resulted in a sextuple bypass and valve replacement. Prior to June 5, he was very healthy (all things considered). His vitals were all normal (he lives in a nursing home), he had a normal appetite, and besides the dementia, you would never know anything was wrong.
Glad your dad made it through okay!
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