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GoofGoof

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InnKpr

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People are now spending thousands of dollars to play themselves like this. Maybe the lesson will stick better than it did at the grocery store.

Now it's my turn to make a stereotypical remark. Observing the amount of tattooage on this guy's forearm, and based upon decades of experience dealing with the public... absolutely nothing in these videos surprises me.

*Shows self to the exit door*
Disclaimer: If you're heavily inked and offended at what I just said, don't worry. I can tell you plenty of not-so-dignified stories about myself so you can form your own stereotypes.
 
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GoofGoof

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what is WRONG with people? 😠
Yeah, you think you are having a rough time until you hear something like this. So some poor kid is busting his rump working in a hot mask for near minimum wage for a summer job. His senior year of high school is in already in doubt (likely at least starting remote and who knows if any of the fun stuff happens) and now he needs surgery to repair a broken jaw and replace his broken teeth. All because some low life piece of garbage can’t follow the most simple and clear of requirements.
 

Lilofan

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Yeah, you think you are having a rough time until you hear something like this. So some poor kid is busting his rump working in a hot mask for near minimum wage for a summer job. His senior year of high school is in already in doubt (likely at least starting remote and who knows if any of the fun stuff happens) and now he needs surgery to repair a broken jaw and replace his broken teeth. All because some low life piece of garbage can’t follow the most simple and clear of requirements.
I'm sure the lawyers want to represent him and the kid can collect big-time for pain and suffering. Pass on that summer job and collect..💰
 
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Lilofan

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Covid is impacting the resorts next to Disney Springs. The Hilton at Buena Vista Palace is " temporarily closing". I'm surprised all the hotels on hotel row next to Disney Springs are barely even operating.
 

G00fyDad

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So someone dies of cancer that had tested positive for Covid died of Covid or the stage 4 cancer? I am not following this logic.

They died of cancer. They were still positive for Covid but died of the cancer. That is how that works. Simple. Too many people are losing their minds and spewing the fake narrative that hospitals are falsely reporting deaths as Covid deaths when the person died of other causes. The stupidest one I have seen so far is a claim that a car accident victim was listed as a Covid death. That is just not happening. If that person with cancer goes into the hospital for Covid complications and dies as a direct result of Covid then they died of Covid, not cancer. And it is the same the other way around. A person can go into the hospital with Covid complications and still die from a heart attack, stroke, cancer, HIV, complications during surgery, etc. then they will be listed by what killed them.
 

SamusAranX

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They died of cancer. They were still positive for Covid but died of the cancer. That is how that works. Simple. Too many people are losing their minds and spewing the fake narrative that hospitals are falsely reporting deaths as Covid deaths when the person died of other causes. The stupidest one I have seen so far is a claim that a car accident victim was listed as a Covid death. That is just not happening. If that person with cancer goes into the hospital for Covid complications and dies as a direct result of Covid then they died of Covid, not cancer. And it is the same the other way around. A person can go into the hospital with Covid complications and still die from a heart attack, stroke, cancer, HIV, complications during surgery, etc. then they will be listed by what killed them.

Actually, that did happen:


It slipped through the cracks and was corrected; but it did happen.
 

Heppenheimer

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So someone dies of cancer that had tested positive for Covid died of Covid or the stage 4 cancer? I am not following this logic.
The immediate cause of death in cancer patients is often infection. Particularly if the cancer spreads to the lungs. This causes an effusion that provides the perfect breeding medium for bacteria and respiratory viruses. The cancer makes them more vulnerable to infection, but the infection is ultimately what often kills the patient.

Cancer is one of many co-morbid conditions that will make the COVID-19 more deadly.

EDIT: Since "cancer" isn't a single disease with a typical progression, perhaps I should written "Cancers are several of many co-morbid conditions..."
 
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Ariel1986

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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-53722711

Yeah over here it’s literally been 5000 mistakingly recorded deaths that “slipped through the cracks” that have now been officially revised.
 

TJ Vazquez

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So someone dies of cancer that had tested positive for Covid died of Covid or the stage 4 cancer? I am not following this logic.
Again, if you read my post, I am speaking to people that had non-life threatening conditions (Respiratory issues, diabetes) , that had Covid not existed wouldn't have exasperated their conditions and ultimately wouldn't have died. Make sense?
 

ABQ

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Again, if you read my post, I am speaking to people that had non-life threatening conditions (Respiratory issues, diabetes) , that had Covid not existed wouldn't have exasperated their conditions and ultimately wouldn't have died. Make sense?
That is a bit speculative though. Of course, one would hope they all would have survived, but it's not necessarily going to be the case. Diabetes and other chronic respiratory issues are a leading cause of death each year. I can't find the most current stats, but here's the CDC's data from 2017 and both are in the top ten in causes of death. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_09-508.pdf , #'s 4 and 7 .
 

TJ Vazquez

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That is a bit speculative though. Of course, one would hope they all would have survived, but it's not necessarily going to be the case. Diabetes and other chronic respiratory issues are a leading cause of death each year. I can't find the most current stats, but here's the CDC's data from 2017 and both are in the top ten in causes of death. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_09-508.pdf , #'s 4 and 7 .
So here is where I get frustrated, and not necessarily with you at all. Its speculative to make a generally accepted assumption (if someone was living just fine with their pre-existing condition and had years ahead of them but then they get infected with covid and die because of the infection), but its not speculative to assume that the motorcycle cases are the majority of situations which some folks are alluding to here? People will truly argue their point to the end of times no matter what it seems.
 

Touchdown

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I wish all of you deniers could shadow me at work for a day and suit up and see some Covid patients. I’m not even in a hot spot and it’s heartbreaking. So many people suffering and dying all alone, and not everyone has comorbid conditions!

It’s such a shame that people are being shielded from the horrors of this disease, but due to a combination of public safety and HIPAA you all are shielded from the truth, but what do I know, surely not as much as the local Facebook expert who’s spent their time at home researching on the internet...
 

G00fyDad

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Actually, that did happen:


It slipped through the cracks and was corrected; but it did happen.

Okay. I will amend my original statement to say that occasional accidents do happen. But people who say that hospitals are false reporting are claiming it is in the hundreds of thousands and being done intentionally.
 

brianstl

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Okay. I will amend my original statement to say that occasional accidents do happen. But people who say that hospitals are false reporting are claiming it is in the hundreds of thousands and being done intentionally.
I don't think hospitals are falsely claiming people are dying of COVID-19. I just don't think we do a good enough job of separating deaths where COVID-19 is listed as possible contributing factor to death from those where COVID-19 was likely one of the main contributing factors to a death.
 

GoofGoof

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I'm sure the lawyers want to represent him and the kid can collect big-time for pain and suffering. Pass on that summer job and collect..💰
Assuming they catch the scum bags and they have any money to be had. I think they will be caught and the police there will work with the NY police to arrest them and bring them back to PA for prosecution. I would prefer they just gave the kid’s family and friends the address and pass out baseball bats and pardons :mad:
 
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