Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[wdisney9000]

You are way late to the party.......

What is the statistical impact of that?

You are way late to reality....

What is the statistical recovery rate?

 

[wdisney9000]

Not good if true

We should probly run for the hills. Smh

 

[GoofGoof]

The corporate offices are in California. I just thought it was an interesting tweet.

I know the corporate headquarters are in CA. I was just curious if the corporate office workers in FL were back in their cubicles or still working from home. I guess it does seem a little unfair to expect the hourly park staff to return to physical work while execs with cushy offices and even some guy from accounts payable get to work from home. It’s not that different than a lot of other industries though.

 

[mickeymiss]

At some point, it is what it is. I think I'm past seeing any positive outcome at this point. I have a feeling most will end up getting this eventually.

Them's the brakes. It's non-stop darkness and fear and depression and fear and fear and fear. I have every intention of avoiding this thing and being safe but my brain can't process so much negative speculation. People are going to break down. I already see it happening. Humans aren't equipped to live like this.

 

[G00fyDad]

I know the corporate headquarters are in CA. I was just curious if the corporate office workers in FL were back in their cubicles or still working from home. I guess it does seem a little unfair to expect the hourly park staff to return to physical work while execs with cushy offices and even some guy from accounts payable get to work from home. It’s not that different than a lot of other industries though.

I'm going to be honest with you, I had no idea that had corporate offices in Florida. I knew they had some management offices but not necessarily corporate.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

I'm going to be honest with you, I had no idea that had corporate offices in Florida. I knew they had some management offices but not necessarily corporate.

the theme parks have their own corporate base

 

[hopemax]

Not good if true

This is another one of "given a perfect environment" type deals. After 16 hrs, virus may be present. But study doesn't speak to viral load; if virus is present in large enough quantity to cause an infection in humans.

The take away is ventilation, ventilation, ventilation. Would help explain transmission within the cruise ships, NYC apartment buildings and Care Facilities. Not exactly a checkmark in the "safe to send kids to school" column, though. I know Denver schools are getting a rush $5 million in HVAC improvements before schools are scheduled to go back.

 

[GoofGoof]

I'm going to be honest with you, I had no idea that had corporate offices in Florida. I knew they had some management offices but not necessarily corporate.

I think both DVC and Disney Cruise Line are headquartered there and they also have other regional parks and resorts corporate functions like accounting, HR, IT, etc related to WDW itself. I think they have several office buildings in Celebration not sure about anywhere else.

 

[WDWTrojan]

I know the corporate headquarters are in CA. I was just curious if the corporate office workers in FL were back in their cubicles or still working from home. I guess it does seem a little unfair to expect the hourly park staff to return to physical work while execs with cushy offices and even some guy from accounts payable get to work from home. It’s not that different than a lot of other industries though.

Most are still working from home.

 

[GoofGoof]

Most are still working from home.

I definitely don’t blame them. Less people interacting unnecessarily the better overall.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Yup. We need verification and explanation of the glitch.

But this doesn’t change case numbers, hospitalizations, ICU use, negative outcomes...

This story is indicative. It is all over certain corners of the internet. In a vast majority of places, it is being used to prove that the pandemic in Florida is a hoax. Few are actually considering its actual meaning or implications, the goal is to find one bit of confused or confusing info, hurl it out from as many sources as possible, and declare that it means nothing is wrong.

By the way, the local Fox report is a neat example of why you need to examine every bit of evidence critically, especially when it confirms prior assumptions. It’s hyperbolic, as so much coverage on both sides is - it declares the number of labs reporting only positives is “countless” - as the above chart indicates, the number is 32, which I hope the reporter can count to. It also does nothing to try and understand what the glitch might mean for the numbers.

Also, there are dozens of labs reporting 0 positive cases, but those don't seem to get mentioned.

 

[Kevin_W]

This is another one of "given a perfect environment" type deals. After 16 hrs, virus may be present. But study doesn't speak to viral load; if virus is present in large enough quantity to cause an infection in humans.

The take away is ventilation, ventilation, ventilation. Would help explain transmission within the cruise ships, NYC apartment buildings and Care Facilities. Not exactly a checkmark in the "safe to send kids to school" column, though. I know Denver schools are getting a rush $5 million in HVAC improvements before schools are scheduled to go back.

Also, to put it bluntly their data is crap.

"We graphed plaque assay and RT-qPCR results and applied nonlinear least-squares regression analysis single-order decay with no outlier detection, resulting in a poor curve fit, which typically results from a lack of replicate samples". So, were you too lazy to get replicate samples or enough data to get a decent looking curve? Did you try and not publish that data?

They ran one experiment of questionable validity, got 5 data points on a log-scale graph and tried to draw a line through them. Their conclusions may well end up being right, but there is no way you should publish a paper based on that experiment and those results.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Just posted this in other thread also. Not trying to be political, I think everyone knows where most stand but it could mean, could, tougher decisions on families gathering info to see if they want to travel.

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data (Published 2020)

Hospitals have been ordered to bypass the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and send all patient information to a central database in Washington, raising questions about transparency.

www.google.com

 

[Lilofan]

I know the corporate headquarters are in CA. I was just curious if the corporate office workers in FL were back in their cubicles or still working from home. I guess it does seem a little unfair to expect the hourly park staff to return to physical work while execs with cushy offices and even some guy from accounts payable get to work from home. It’s not that different than a lot of other industries though.

Looks like obvious double standard. Cast that work directly with guests and fellow cast happy but scared to be back at work but corporate staff working from home..

 

[G00fyDad]

Just posted this in other thread also. Not trying to be political, I think everyone knows where most stand but it could mean, could, tougher decisions on families gathering info to see if they want to travel.

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data (Published 2020)

Hospitals have been ordered to bypass the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and send all patient information to a central database in Washington, raising questions about transparency.

www.google.com

Careful there. I simply mentioned a certain governor's name and how stupid he is and I was warned by Mom that any further political talk could result in disciplinary action. You're going to be on a list....

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Careful there. I simply mentioned a certain governor's name and how stupid he is and I was warned by Mom that any further political talk could result in disciplinary action. You're going to be on a list....

I just think it ties in with the thread very well. I’ve been with the warnings before, and don’t want to push things but a major decision like this does tie in with correct reporting of the virus, and WDW travel.

 

[wannabeBelle]

Also, to put it bluntly their data is crap.

"We graphed plaque assay and RT-qPCR results and applied nonlinear least-squares regression analysis single-order decay with no outlier detection, resulting in a poor curve fit, which typically results from a lack of replicate samples". So, were you too lazy to get replicate samples or enough data to get a decent looking curve? Did you try and not publish that data?

They ran one experiment of questionable validity, got 5 data points on a log-scale graph and tried to draw a line through them. Their conclusions may well end up being right, but there is no way you should publish a paper based on that experiment and those results.

Some of the reporters from my local newspaper had also mentioned the story and said that the negative results simply weren't reported on. Once those were factored in the positive rate dropped to around 6 and 9% respectively. Still not great but a far cry from the 100% that was initially reported. Marie

 

[Casper Gutman]

I just think it ties in with the thread very well. I’ve been with the warnings before, and don’t want to push things but a major decision like this does tie in with correct reporting of the virus, and WDW travel.

It is relevant to the extent that it applies to the Fox 35 article that was a hot topic here yesterday. In evaluating how the apparent Florida mistakes occurred, its important to acknowledge that their has been a lack of central guidance on how numbers should be reported, significant confusion between organizations collecting that information, little clarity in where and how that information is displayed and interpreted, and few attempts to make the entire process more transparent and efficient. This is all very relevant to a desire to understand the numbers we are seeing.

 

[G00fyDad]

I just think it ties in with the thread very well. I’ve been with the warnings before, and don’t want to push things but a major decision like this does tie in with correct reporting of the virus, and WDW travel.

I know. Mine was directly related to the subject matter at hand too. Seemed like nitpicking to me. I was just messing with you anyway.

 

[Casper Gutman]

In the face of the present suffering, this is a minor point, but...

If the parks in Florida are going to close again (I don't see how they avoid this, really), WDW better make sure it announces the closure first. Disney lives or dies by its image, and right now WDW is the icon in both the international and domestic press for wreckless behavior during the pandemic. Tons of stories about Florida's terrible situation or the pandemic in the USA in general feature images of the castle or of Mickey's big plastic face. The late nite comedians are all taking shots. If Universal announces it is closing and highlights concern for guest safety, even if its just a day before Disney, the general PR situation will deteriorate still further.

This is quite aside from perceptions within the much smaller community of people concerned with theme parks (execs, fans, employees, etc.), where the optics will be even worse. Universal will have been the first to open (opening was still a terrible idea), at a moment when the situation hadn't begun to deteriorate rapidly, and will close first - in both cases giving the impression that they are the dominant, more dynamic company, making WDW dance to their tune.

Basically, the PR gamble WDW is taking takes increases every day it is open, and its already a really, really enormous gamble. There is a way out - if Disney closes and launches a huge public campaign for the state government to act responsibly and for the public to get more serious, they mitigate the PR damage - and might actually make things better. They can push the idea that the sooner everyone behaves responsibly, the sooner we can all get back to having fun at WDW.