milordsloth
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You can't get the virus if you don't believe it exists!
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You can't get the virus if you don't believe it exists!
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DisneyDebRob
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You got me! Touché.
Rider
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Correct. That's what the studies say.
Study: Protests did not lead to COVID spike — CBS News
New research suggests the massive Black Lives Matter protests across the country have not led to a jump in coronavirus cases. Dr. Ron Elfenbein joined CBSN to discuss why researchers believe the there's been no surge tied to large groups of demonstrators, even while cases spike in a number of...
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New York City reports no protest-related upticks in Covid-19
New York City has reported fewer than 350 new cases per day in the last week.
www.politico.com
Black Lives Matter protests have not led to a spike in coronavirus cases, research says
Despite warnings from public health officials, new research suggests Black Lives Matter protests across the country have not led to a jump in coronavirus cases.
www.cnn.com
BrianLo
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Everything is cumulative, that basically is (or was supposed to be) the whole principle of phases. Add a little extra risky behaviour on top, pause, analyze and if ALL the metrics are low stable and/or consistently improving go to the next step.
Perhaps the protests didn't add much heat to the boiling pot, but people are being disingenuous if they claim they did nothing. Everything that does not involve people being locked alone in a bunker has the potential to do something. Which has coincidentally nothing to do with them not being a pivotal and important event.
This is all to say that when it comes to ascertain adding risky things, they need to also be prioritized. The protests should have been prioritized, but they were not. It was merely another log (maybe even a very small one) on a bonfire that was occurring due to poor choices.
Whether the protests are more important than a restaurant is a greater social issue. But for many the protests were and are just as essential as a grocery store and hospital. The problem is everyone's personal priority list is different, which does not really make anyone a hypocrite ultimately.
While there may have been some incidental transmission, the places where protests were the largest have seen no spike, so there doesn't seem to be a high correlation.
There DOES seem to a correlation between places that are hottest and people seeking comfort in air conditioning without masks. Disney will require them, but very tough to enforce total compliance in a darkened air conditioned queue line. Obviously restaurants will be at 50% capacity but it is becoming clear that the a/c in these places, despite the distancing, still results in spread.
milordsloth
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Well said BrianLo, and I agree. Thanks for the response.
milordsloth
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Meh too many "seems" and assumptions for me to be convinced. I'll report back after my July trip.
DVCakaCarlF
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Of course the protests spread the virus...tell me where social distancing was practiced. Our mayor even encouraged protestors to wear masks in Charlotte.Correct. That's what the studies say.
Study: Protests did not lead to COVID spike — CBS News
New research suggests the massive Black Lives Matter protests across the country have not led to a jump in coronavirus cases. Dr. Ron Elfenbein joined CBSN to discuss why researchers believe the there's been no surge tied to large groups of demonstrators, even while cases spike in a number of...New York City reports no protest-related upticks in Covid-19
New York City has reported fewer than 350 new cases per day in the last week.Black Lives Matter protests have not led to a spike in coronavirus cases, research says
Despite warnings from public health officials, new research suggests Black Lives Matter protests across the country have not led to a jump in coronavirus cases.
Miss Bella
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I think 4 people showed up.
Miss Bella
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I keep telling people the constitution protects protesters from the virus. The constitution seems to be biased though because according to the media it only protects during certain types of protests.
DVCakaCarlF
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Going to work, school, church, etc. all spreads the virus, but not protests.
TrainsOfDisney
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Well... only 1 of those typically happens outside. That makes a major difference.
Protests, as far as the disease are concerned are like going to the beach. If you go to the beach with no mask and crowd around with friends from other family groups - that’s bad. If you go with just your family group, wear masks, and keep distance from others - that’s good.
All of that is just my opinion of course.
Miss Bella
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You forgot theme parks.
Miss Bella
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I guess you're ok with theme parks?
Miss Bella
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People did get fined for attending a drive-in church service with windows rolled up. Hmmmm
MrMcDuck
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It’s a magical virus that supports leftist protests and only causes problems when conservatives gather, even in their cars, don’t you know?
Anyway, leaving the land of biased media and going back to the land of reality for a bit, I'm still really curious to see how well mask enforcement will work here. As has been pointed out by many, a Disney World park is not Disney Springs and it's certainly not Shanghai Disney. People here in the states are assaulting grocery store workers, throwing food, etc. over basic mask policies in comfortable environments. Heat index of 115 + American attitude + full day at a park is going to lead to some very interesting videos.
Anyway, leaving the land of biased media and going back to the land of reality for a bit, I'm still really curious to see how well mask enforcement will work here. As has been pointed out by many, a Disney World park is not Disney Springs and it's certainly not Shanghai Disney. People here in the states are assaulting grocery store workers, throwing food, etc. over basic mask policies in comfortable environments. Heat index of 115 + American attitude + full day at a park is going to lead to some very interesting videos.
Correct. That's what the studies say.
Study: Protests did not lead to COVID spike — CBS News
New research suggests the massive Black Lives Matter protests across the country have not led to a jump in coronavirus cases. Dr. Ron Elfenbein joined CBSN to discuss why researchers believe the there's been no surge tied to large groups of demonstrators, even while cases spike in a number of...New York City reports no protest-related upticks in Covid-19
New York City has reported fewer than 350 new cases per day in the last week.Black Lives Matter protests have not led to a spike in coronavirus cases, research says
Despite warnings from public health officials, new research suggests Black Lives Matter protests across the country have not led to a jump in coronavirus cases.
You are aware that in some locations, they specifically did NOT ask Covid+ people if they had been at protests.
They are avoiding the crowd for the fourth and will prob reopen though. The same way the parks are offering nothing for the fourth and Miami beaches closed for similar reasons.
That being said. The Cirque news getting worse, and the economy makes it harder for people to trust expendable income use right now with businesses suffering. The local lifestyles are also not spending money on the alcohol the same way again(can't drink inside until further notice.). The parks are still bleeding money.
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TrainsOfDisney
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Depends on what time of day you ask me! Haha.
I think regional parks might be ok? I really want to convince myself to go to Dollywood but I’m not comfortable yet and I’ve been enjoying state parks and national forests around me.
My problem with Disney is there is so much happening indoors, plus the travel to and from florida. I could see California opening before Florida since it’s so much more outdoors there and there’s no resort transportation that Disney runs. But here we are!
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