Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[GoofGoof]

I agree with you about the bars, but dealing with young drunk people that want to have a good time is a challenge. I remember those days. It was like a hundred years ago.
Hopefully they’ll figure something out.

I think they need to do it at the business level. I saw that Texas started temporary suspensions of liquor licenses for violations before closing all the bars down. A liquor license is the life blood of a bar, most owners will take that pretty serious. There’s no good way for the government to enforce rules on individuals in that situation. Better done at the business level.

 

[wdisney9000]

No, it did not coincide with the protests. If it did you'd expect to see big spikes in MN, NY and PA - all sites of the biggest protests. The reality is this does well in air conditioned environments where people aren't masked. This coincides with Phase 2 of most states reopening - higher capacity restaurants, bars open, etc.

Then visiting WDW shouldn't be a problem, correct? Large outdoor spaces with much better enforcement of distancing and mask wearing (as opposed to the thousands of people protesting side by side who apparently were not affected), and even when indoors masks are still required.

WDW seems to be a more safe environment than protesting out in the streets, which according to the "data", is not a problem.

 

[WWallaceII]

After scrolling through dozens of pages on here (that'll teach me not to look in for 36 hours...) to genuinely see what was happening at Disney/Orlando during this pandemic, I'm still unsure

But I liked this bit of dark humour/reality, so worth a share

 

[GoofGoof]

Then visiting WDW shouldn't be a problem, correct? Large outdoor spaces with much better enforcement of distancing and mask wearing (as opposed to the thousands of people protesting side by side who apparently were not affected), and even when indoors masks are still required.

WDW seems to be a more safe environment than protesting out in the streets, which according to the "data", is not a problem.

Assuming they properly enforce the mask requirement WDW shouldn’t be a huge problem. There are some indoor choke points like some ride queues but outside of that it seems they should actually be better than some other businesses already open.

 

[esskay]

Several other sites are reporting that Uniqlo at Disney Springs has abruptly closed...until further notice.

With the surge going up I'd expect a fair few to close.

I mean, realistically I'd expect and hope the parks to delay opening too given the overwhelming statistics. Cue the brigade.

 

[legwand77]

Several other sites are reporting that Uniqlo at Disney Springs has abruptly closed...until further notice.

Yes happened yesterday

 

[legwand77]

After scrolling through dozens of pages on here (that'll teach me not to look in for 36 hours...) to genuinely see what was happening at Disney/Orlando during this pandemic, I'm still unsure

But I liked this bit of dark humour/reality, so worth a share

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always fun to compare biology to physics, doesn't make it true.

 

[Roy G. Dis]

always fun to compare biology to physics, doesn't make it true.

They are both safety measures; the comparison is apt.

 

[WDWTrojan]

Then visiting WDW shouldn't be a problem, correct? Large outdoor spaces with much better enforcement of distancing and mask wearing (as opposed to the thousands of people protesting side by side who apparently were not affected), and even when indoors masks are still required.

WDW seems to be a more safe environment than protesting out in the streets, which according to the "data", is not a problem.

The problem with WDW is not so much the outdoor walkways. It's many, many indoor attractions/queues, which will be socially distanced, but where masks will be much harder to police and people may think, wrongfully, that because they are now inside it is okay to remove their mask for a minute to "breathe the cool air" or take some sips of their water. All evidence seems to show that the virus can travel well indoors and social distancing might not be as effective as we want.

Not to mention, as is evident from the copious amounts of restaurants that are re-closing now due to outbreaks, dining is also a big problem.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

After scrolling through dozens of pages on here (that'll teach me not to look in for 36 hours...) to genuinely see what was happening at Disney/Orlando during this pandemic, I'm still unsure

But I liked this bit of dark humour/reality, so worth a share

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Simple

The brakes are the first line. The seatbelt the second. If the first and second line fail.....enter the airbags. It's called redundancy.

 

[MuteSuperstar]

With the surge going up I'd expect a fair few to close.

I mean, realistically I'd expect and hope the parks to delay opening too given the overwhelming statistics. Cue the brigade.

Agree 100%. I expect an "abundance of caution" message on Monday or Tuesday. But that is strictly opinion.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Yes happened yesterday

Just curious... what’s your point in replying to every single comment someone makes? It must be exhausting watching this 24/7.

I can’t figure out what you are trying to prove or who you are trying to impress?

 

[techgeek]

Assuming they properly enforce the mask requirement WDW shouldn’t be a huge problem. There are some indoor choke points like some ride queues but outside of that it seems they should actually be better than some other businesses already open.

I don’t think WDW, or more specifically the theme park environment, is a huge problem either in and of itself.

The challenge comes in the exponential daily activity supporting the parks. Every employee has a shifting chain of contacts while on shift, has to travel back and forth from and to property and have countless community contacts... is eating out and shopping and running errands and is going about life back in ‘work’ mode.

Out of town guests have to travel in, either in a plane with that attendant uncertainty or multi-hour car trips with ensuing stops and meals. Eating 3 meals a day out in close contact with other travelers from who knows where. They are on vacation and ‘in the safe magical bubble’ so they let their guard down on a casual evening.

By itself, a ride Slinky or even ToT properly distanced isn’t the problem. Any contact is too brief, the environment too hostile... but because of it theres now countless web of other longer connections that simply doesn’t happen when working from home and going out for essentials a few times a week.

No, it’s not the parks that’s the concern. It’s the attached lifestyle that comes with them. And it seems like that’s the part we’re not ready for yet.

 

[legwand77]

I hope more school systems listen to this guidance from doctors, plus always good for Disney that kids aren't really a factor in Covid

the AAP strongly advocates that all policy considerations for the coming school year should start with a goal of having students physically present in school

https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/clinical-guidance/covid-19-planning-considerations-return-to-in-person-education-in-schools/

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

“abundance of caution"

Not a critique of your post.

But this has quickly become my least favorite phrase.

What does that even mean?

We’re not just being cautious - We’re being super duper cautious? Meaning you were being haphazardly cautious before?

 

[MuteSuperstar]

Not a critique of your post.

But this has quickly become my least favorite phrase.

What does that even mean?

We’re not just being cautious - We’re being super duper cautious? Meaning you were being haphazardly cautious before?

Ha yeah, modern corporatespeak is a lovely thing isn't it.

 

[Miss Bella]

Do what we have been doing here and fine anyone not complying with social distancing. All it takes is to fine a few and they will get the message. An $800 fine will make them take notice.

The biggest outbreaks in my state are in the low-income Hispanic neighborhoods in west phoenix, the Navajo nation, and Yuma county on the border. Handing out fines doesn't necessarily work in every community. There are a lot of cultural and educational differences that can't be overlooked.

One being the Hispanic community is very family-oriented. How well they social distance themselves from another family member with COVID is a question I can't answer. They also like to take care of their elderly. I commend them for that, but when you send COVID positive grandma home and she's got 10 grandkids taking care of her that's a problem. I work in the Hispanic community and since families aren't allowed in the hospital it's difficult to educate the families. I guarantee you they are not on Disney boards getting their public service announcement.

My point is every state and every community in the U.S has their own unique issues. It's not quite as simple as just handing out fines.

 

[Hawg G]

Not magic. Science. Remember, follow the science. The science says young people don’t die at high rates, and young people are the ones being infected. And our treatments have improved quite a bit, ya know, because science!

Also, thanks to N.Y. and N.J. we now know not to send active Covid patients into LTC facilities. Great job by us!

The virus can only ravage old folks homes once.

 

[Hawg G]

The amount misinformation in this thread is staggering. I have no idea why the moderator's haven't shut it down.

The thread is heavily politically biased. The moderator told me so.

 

[inigomontoya]

The problem with WDW is not so much the outdoor walkways. It's many, many indoor attractions/queues, which will be socially distanced, but where masks will be much harder to police and people may think, wrongfully, that because they are now inside it is okay to remove their mask for a minute to "breathe the cool air" or take some sips of their water. All evidence seems to show that the virus can travel well indoors and social distancing might not be as effective as we want.

Not to mention, as is evident from the copious amounts of restaurants that are re-closing now due to outbreaks, dining is also a big problem

I had not heard of restaurants re-closing. Where is that happening?