Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[GoofGoof]

No. The opposite of Florida. Sweden didn’t flatten their curve. They just powered through it.

One thing with Sweden that is misrepresented is that they just continued with life and accepted the virus infection. They didn’t. Here is the mobility charts for the US and Sweden:

So while there was more moving around in Sweden than the US it was far from business as usual. By April 1 they had around a 30% drop in mobility nationwide which continued mostly for several months. The US peaked around -50% and is still around 10% below where Sweden currently sits. The point is that there’s a false narrative out there that Sweden decided to just keep everything open and it was business as usual. Clearly that was not the case. Many people reduced activity, stayed home more and practiced the same social distancing we did here. Unfortunately the uptick in mobility in Sweden did very little to help their economy.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Sweden was the control group, and it failed.

 

[GoofGoof]

No, it did not coincide with the protests. If it did you'd expect to see big spikes in MN, NY and PA - all sites of the biggest protests. The reality is this does well in air conditioned environments where people aren't masked. This coincides with Phase 2 of most states reopening - higher capacity restaurants, bars open, etc.

This appears to be true. I watched the news coverage of those protests for weeks and just assumed we were all screwed when it comes to containing the virus spread. It is shocking to me to see those major metropolitan areas with the largest protests not having major spikes in cases. I do think the outdoor nature helps and at least some people wore masks but many didn’t. If anything it bodes well for theme parks...at least the outdoor parts.

 

[Miss Bella]

No, it did not coincide with the protests. If it did you'd expect to see big spikes in MN, NY and PA - all sites of the biggest protests. The reality is this does well in air conditioned environments where people aren't masked. This coincides with Phase 2 of most states reopening - higher capacity restaurants, bars open, etc.

What’s interesting back in April the models predicted us to peak on June 11. They were pretty much spot on. I think we’re peaking even a little later than that. Hopefully we’ll be on the downside soon.

 

[GoofGoof]

Sweden was the control group, and it failed.

I don’t know if it failed...it just proved that there was no beating this virus. We all failed...except maybe New Zealand

 

[WDWTrojan]

What’s interesting back in April the models predicted us to peak on June 11. They were pretty much spot on. I think we’re peaking even a little later than that. Hopefully we’ll be on the downside soon.

The models took into account social distancing. Many states are not really doing that so the models have to be re-calculated. In April the models were rounded down to say 60,000-80,000 deaths too. Look how well that turned out once people stopped taking it seriously.

 

[GoofGoof]

What’s interesting back in April the models predicted us to peak on June 11. They were pretty much spot on. I think we’re peaking even a little later than that. Hopefully we’ll be on the downside soon.

Amen

 

[Andrew C]

I don’t know if it failed...it just proved that there was no beating this virus. We all failed...except maybe New Zealand

And South Korea, maybe.

 

[Miss Bella]

This appears to be true. I watched the news coverage of those protests for weeks and just assumed we were all screwed when it comes to containing the virus spread. It is shocking to me to see those major metropolitan areas with the largest protests not having major spikes in cases. I do think the outdoor nature helps and at least some people wore masks but many didn’t. If anything it bodes well for theme parks...at least the outdoor parts.

Hopefully that’s correct and maybe why the parks feel comfortable opening. I disagree with closing the beaches in Florida. The bars I can understand. One or two drinks and all inhibitions about the virus are gone.

 

[WDWTrojan]

This appears to be true. I watched the news coverage of those protests for weeks and just assumed we were all screwed when it comes to containing the virus spread. It is shocking to me to see those major metropolitan areas with the largest protests not having major spikes in cases. I do think the outdoor nature helps and at least some people wore masks but many didn’t. If anything it bodes well for theme parks...at least the outdoor parts.

I can only speak to LA where I watched numerous protests from outside my window and 99% of the protestors had masks on.

 

[Andrew C]

Hopefully that’s correct and maybe why the parks feel comfortable opening. I disagree with closing the beaches in Florida. The bars I can understand. One or two drinks and all inhibitions about the virus are gone.

I agree (or am okay) with the beach closures. For this upcoming weekend. There is gonna be a rush. It just isn’t necessary.

 

[Miss Bella]

The models took into account social distancing. Many states are not really doing that so the models have to be re-calculated. In April the models were rounded down to say 60,000-80,000 deaths too. Look how well that turned out once people stopped taking it seriously.

We are under a mask mandate and you all swear masks work so I guess we’ll find out. I live in the suburbs there’s no congregating going on
out here in boringville. The colleges are closed, but I have no idea what the bar seen is like I’m far removed from that behavior.

 

[GoofGoof]

Hopefully that’s correct and maybe why the parks feel comfortable opening. I disagree with closing the beaches in Florida. The bars I can understand. One or two drinks and all inhibitions about the virus are gone.

The beaches shouldn’t be closed. I think the one exception could be a beach area that gets so crowded that it’s not possible to properly distance. Probably pretty rare in FL since there’s beaches everywhere.

My FIL has been walking on the beach every day since this started. The guy lives 10 minutes from the beach and barely ever went before this pandemic, but his gym closed so he started walking the beach. He’s sent us pictures on various days from March up until as recent as this week and it’s never over crowded. The bars were problematic. They need to reboot the bar opening to something more tame. Business owners deserve a chance to earn a living but they just need to come up with rules that work better. Hopefully during this pause they figure it out.

 

[Miss Bella]

I agree (or am okay) with the beach closures. For this upcoming weekend. There is gonna be a rush. It just isn’t necessary.

Is it just the southern beaches or is it all of them. I spent a couple nights at South Beach before a cruise. It was a big party and it wasn’t even a holiday.

 

[Andrew C]

Is it just the southern beaches or is it all of them. I spent a couple nights at South Beach before a cruise. It was a big party and it wasn’t even a holiday.

It may be prudent to do all of them during this holiday but I think just Miami Dade county. You know no one will be able to social distance on them.

 

[GoofGoof]

Is it just the southern beaches or is it all of them. I spent a couple nights at South Beach before a cruise. It was a big party and it wasn’t even a holiday.

I think it’s all of Miami Dade county. There’s probably some less crowded beaches that would have been fine but then maybe people would have just moved over to them.

 

[Miss Bella]

The beaches shouldn’t be closed. I think the one exception could be a beach area that gets so crowded that it’s not possible to properly distance. Probably pretty rare in FL since there’s beaches everywhere.

My FIL has been walking on the beach every day since this started. The guy lives 10 minutes from the beach and barely ever went before this pandemic, but his gym closed so he started walking the beach. He’s sent us pictures on various days from March up until as recent as this week and it’s never over crowded. The bars were problematic. They need to reboot the bar opening to something more tame. Business owners deserve a chance to earn a living but they just need to come up with rules that work better. Hopefully during this pause they figure it out.

I agree with you about the bars, but dealing with young drunk people that want to have a good time is a challenge. I remember those days. It was like a hundred years ago.
Hopefully they’ll figure something out.

 

[Polkadotdress]

Several other sites are reporting that Uniqlo at Disney Springs has abruptly closed...until further notice.

 

[Jrb1979]

I agree with you about the bars, but dealing with young drunk people that want to have a good time is a challenge. I remember those days. It was like a hundred years ago.
Hopefully they’ll figure something out.

Do what we have been doing here and fine anyone not complying with social distancing. All it takes is to fine a few and they will get the message. An $800 fine will make them take notice.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Several other sites are reporting that Uniqlo at Disney Springs has abruptly closed...until further notice.

Store hours for their Disney Springs and Florida Mall locations are listed as “Unavailable” but randomly selecting other stores in the country does show operating hour.

UNIQLO Store Locator

map.uniqlo.com