Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Kevin_W

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WSJ has a paywall. But from the 1 sentence I can read, I'd urge you to read the difference between average and median is.

Nitpick, but you mean "I'd urge you to read the difference between mean and median". The median is one version of "the average", jsut not the one most often meant.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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As others pointed out months ago everyone will get this due to it being so contagious. Either through natural spread or vaccines. Not downplaying anything. Just pointing out that the best strategy is keeping the numbers manageable until herd immunity is achieved or vaccine proves viable enough.

It would be nice if the virus just died off but this seems less likely. Not because we could lock things down enough. But rather it is too easily spread to hope to contain. Just reality.

That's not a source.

Stop posting falsehoods.
 

Horizons '83

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Nitpick, but you mean "I'd urge you to read the difference between mean and median". The median is one version of "the average", jsut not the one most often meant.

I can't really read the article so i don't have a great frame of reference for the numbers in that article but this what I was referencing below. He mentioned the average age of a Covid victim was 80, but in that article it was he median. There is a difference there.

This was what I was referencing:

Median vs. Average
The median of a set of numbers is that number where half the numbers are lower and half the numbers are higher. In the case of real estate, that means that the median is the price where half the homes sold in any given area that month were cheaper, and half were more expensive than the median.

The average of a set of numbers is the total of those numbers divided by the number of items in that set. The median and the average might be close, but they could also significantly different. It all depends on the numbers.
 

oceanbreeze77

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Yes, we’ve been saying this since before the re-openings started. It’s hard to implement though. You can’t force people to be tested. One way to achieve it would be to have the large majority of employers require random testing of employees. Then you get your random sample but if it’s just prisons or first responders or certain types of employers then you lose the randomness of the sample. I don’t think any state is doing enough testing yet. There’s a lot of room for improvement.
In the beginning we didn't have enough resources to test many people besides these groups. Now that we have the ability to I think the idea of "while I'm not an essential worker so I don't need to get tested" has stayed.
 

mellyf

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I agree that mental illness and stress are issues to be considered but no one has mentioned the massive stress and worry of the vulnerable, who fear that without EVERYONE playing their part in following the rules, their lives are effectively over. Never being able to go outside without being fearful, never being able to share a meal at a bar or restaurant with friends, never going on holiday again. This is the stress that my husband and I are under. I have no figures, so please don’t ask for source but my gut feeling is that there are probably more of us in our position. That is in no way intended to belittle or disregard the terror of hunger or poverty but those things should be addressed with proper support. I fear our fears are less easily addressed. I have been outside my house twice since March.

I agree....I constantly think about my parents. I stopped by earlier this week, and my mom came out to her front porch (my dad was taking his dog for a ride in his Kubota, lol), but we stood about 15 feet apart (I was wearing my mask, to be try to be a little safer), and talked for about 15 min). One of the fun parts of their day had been lunch daily at a diner, conversing with friends, etc. They're not sure when they're going to be able to do that again. I feel badly for them that many people are dismissive (even on this thread) because it's only "old people." My parents live on a farm so they can get outside and take walks with their dogs pretty safely. Many older people can't.
 

GoofGoof

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I agree....I constantly think about my parents. I stopped by earlier this week, and my mom came out to her front porch (my dad was taking his dog for a ride in his Kubota, lol), but we stood about 15 feet apart (I was wearing my mask, to be try to be a little safer), and talked for about 15 min). One of the fun parts of their day had been lunch daily at a diner, conversing with friends, etc. They're not sure when they're going to be able to do that again. I feel badly for them that many people are dismissive (even on this thread) because it's only "old people." My parents live on a farm so they can get outside and take walks with their dogs pretty safely. Many older people can't.
My parents are in their 70s and luckily both retired but some people 65+ still need to work to make ends meet. My MIL finally retired last year but if this all happened a year earlier she would have been one of those people. I also know a few people who have grandparents as the primary care taker for young children. daycare is expensive. That’s why it’s not as easy as saying just let the old and high risk people shelter at home then the “rest of us” can go about life like the virus never existed and who cares if we get sick since young, healthy people don’t get very sick and rarely die. It’s not that simple and a little insulting to our elders.
 

TrojanUSC

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A pretty good report that essentially proves many of the beliefs that masks aren’t the solution, and we aren’t all going to die. Barely anyone is dying just from Covid, especially if you are less than 80.


Medium isn't a 'report.' It's open source. Anyone can write for it. Come back when something peer reviewed by experts.
 

legwand77

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IIts interesting how many people on a WDW discussion board are against WDW opening. You would think it would be the opposite. People have been waiting on hold for hours and hours the last three days so I guess there’s quite a few people excited to get back to the mouse.

I just got my emails to confirm my trip and magic bands have been sent. Six more weeks to a vacation . Finally!
Yes, it is interesting, some on here activley seek out only bad news information and post it regularly. Yes there is bad news and there is good news which they shun. The virus is something to watch, monitor and adjust health policy as needed , but actively only looking and sharing only the bad news is an interesting phenomenon and can't be healthy imho.
 

GoofGoof

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I doubt many people outside the handful of people here are worried about it.. If I didn’t have plans to go I wouldn’t care.
I agree with this. We fixate on WDW here for obvious reasons. Purely anecdotal, but so far every person I have told that I cancelled my WDW trip in August has either said good call because they wouldn’t fly anywhere and/or they wouldn’t think about going to a place like WDW with all the crowds. The beach and national parks may end up being more popular than ever this year. Most people have no clue about capacity limits or safety plans at WDW. They just picture what it was like the last time they were there with the crowds and lines and think no way would I want to do that now.
 

legwand77

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Breathing, talking and walking by people without a mask vs sitting on a bench by yourself away from others? Do you want a bar graph or will standard logic do?
None of what you have mentioned is science. What about walking and staying 6-10 feet away from people, or what if someone walks within three feet of you on a bench and stands, I know when walking around I can easily avoid being within 6-10 feet of people, probably easier than trying to avoid people while sitting on a bench.
 

DisneyDebRob

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Yes rules are a bit different for citizens in China.
You are comparing a good contract tracing system to being a rule in whatever country it is? I may have this wrong but what I got from that was.. it’s China and since it is, we shouldn’t follow their lead even if it is better then we have done? Explain to me like I’m a 5 year old. If I’m mistaken I apologize.
 

legwand77

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I clicked on your link just to get a laugh and the first line I see says:

Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story. For more info about the coronavirus, see cdc.gov.

Yeah, no thanks.
Same as all the pre prints studies that people have referenced. plus sources for that article include cdc etc and are all listed.
 

DisneyDebRob

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Yes, it is interesting, some on here activley seek out only bad news information and post it regularly. Yes there is bad news and there is good news which they shun. The virus is something to watch, monitor and adjust health policy as needed , but actively only looking and sharing only the bad news is an interesting phenomenon and can't be healthy imho.
I see much good news here about states doing things that are mitigating the virus. I see a lot of positive things from people on how they are handling the situation. Other hand, I see negatives also which there are a lot right now. I believe that’s why they invented discussion boards. The good and the bad can all be talked about.
 
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