Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

Status
Not open for further replies.
MadMax11

MadMax11

Well-Known Member
oceanbreeze77 said:
I get the sense that a lot of people (not necessarily anyone on this board) want to see bodies flooding the hallways, much like we saw in china, Spain, and Italy. This is some thing we DONT want to happen in our country, and some countries warned us on how to prevent it from happening, we have yet to heed the advice.
Click to expand...

[sarcasm] Oh, no...it's fine. That's just surge/overflow. You guys are such worriers. If you need an ICU room (for any reason) and they can't give you one, no problem...they'll just put you in a room that's not ICU ready. No biggie. [/sarcasm]
 
DisneyOutsider

DisneyOutsider

Well-Known Member
mickeymiss said:
I'm not saying this to be snarky. How do you know it's a certainty? Florida has a huge population. One of the largest. Nobody wants to see numbers go up like this but nothing is absolute. That's about all there is to be sure of with this virus. Nothing 😂😭 I expected to know people who tested positive by now especially with a husband who works at two different hospitals. People are getting it but the consensus has still been that most people are not.
Click to expand...

Look at the percent positives in Orange County right now.. look at the trends of positive cases in Orange County over the past 10 days and look at the median age of those reporting positive. It's exactly the age group of people I'd expect to see at a theme park in Florida right now. I'd be shocked if there weren't covid-positive guests walking through their parks regularly this week, whether they're knowingly positive or not.
 
Rider

Rider

Well-Known Member
oceanbreeze77 said:
Also it seems that we are beginning to see the results from the protests. Here in CA officials now cite the protests as a community spread location.
Click to expand...
Quackers5000 said:
I wouldn’t be surprised, tons of people pressed together and only some wearing masks. That combined with yelling is a sure way to spread droplets. It’s a shame the tough decisions that are needing to be made when in regards to people’s constitutional rights, but we can’t let this spiral out of control. Though I’m concerned we might already have turned a very bad corner is some areas of the US and will just have to ride it out now.
Click to expand...
GoofGoof said:
Hard to say. Many states in the Northeast and Midwest that have stayed constant or seen steady reductions in cases also had large protests. Minnesota itself is still not seeing spikes. Philly had major protests and so far no major spike in cases. I can’t imagine how those large protests aren’t leading to new cases, but so far it’s not happening across the board. It may be that in some cases protesters were more likely to wear masks. No clue why it’s not across the board increasing.
Click to expand...

A new study, published this month by the National Bureau of Economic Research, used data on protests from more than 300 of the largest U.S. cities, and found no evidence that coronavirus cases grew in the weeks following the beginning of the protests.

However, researchers determined that social distancing behaviors actually went up after the protests — as people tried to avoid the protests altogether. But obviously, these demonstrations caused a decrease in social distancing among actual protesters.

"Our findings suggest that any direct decrease in social distancing among the subset of the population participating in the protests is more than offset by increasing social distancing behavior among others who may choose to shelter-at-home and circumvent public places while the protests are underway," the report reads.

 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
legwand77 said:
One interesting thing developing , still running it down. The data for new cases might be a bit skewed. CDC or some states not sure yet. but each test that is positive is counted as a new case. As an example, say a Covid patient is in the hospital on Remdesivir is tested every day for five days (which they do) gets with five positives, each is counted as a new case. might explain some portion of the discrepancy b/t cases and hospitalizations. Or you have to test negative twice before leaving isolation. Every positive is counted as a new case. So in theory u could test + wait 2 weeks test - then + because of false positive then - but the + would still be counted.

Might not be the case, but a reason that case numbers alone are not a great metric.
Click to expand...

And again, you want to minimize the data by claiming that the data is indeed skewed.

But you know you'll be challenged to show your homework.

So, you add "but may not be the case."
 
Last edited by a moderator:
D

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
DisneyDebRob said:
Well, you were correct. Good to see the teachers do well but nothing else. Increased testing.. elective surgeries .. same stuff.
I just wonder where he finds that big sheet to cover the elephant in the corner of the room. Hope things work out for the best down there.
Click to expand...
He did talk about it and how the spread is rapid as well as the PSAs to try to get people to follow guidelines. If the majority of these 18-34 year olds are asymptomatic, I don't think that the testing capacity is a problem. You have to get asymptomatic people to go get tested.

Why would anything need to be done regarding elective surgeries? The COVID hospitalization trend isn't threatening capacity. It was mentioned that people coming in for elective surgeries are part of the increase in people testing positive. Fatalities are essentially flat for the last month.

As long as hospital capacity doesn't become an issue and the number of daily fatalities doesn't significantly increase there is no need for drastic pullbacks. What is needed is for people to follow the guidelines.

Prince-1 said:
You have a source for that guess.

All I heard in April and May was the heat would be a savior. Guess what...it ain’t.
Click to expand...

A few thousand posts ago I put links to studies done in Italy and China which reached the conclusion that the spread was occurring mostly in enclosed spaces between people in prolonged, close contact with each other and that there was very little evidence of any significant outdoor spread. Feel free to search and find the posts.

oceanbreeze77 said:
we didn't do a full lockdown. In fact other countries peeling back their lockdowns is the equivalent to what we have been doing since march.
Click to expand...

At least in Florida, a true "lockdown" would not be legal. Quarantine or Isolation require a reasonable suspicion that the person being quarantined or isolated has been exposed or is infected, respectively. You can not have "reasonable suspicion" that everybody has been exposed, especially when such a tiny percentage of people (under 5%) in the state have been infected in the course of three months.
 
Prince-1

Prince-1

Well-Known Member
Sirwalterraleigh said:
Close...

Reading thousands of comments (from about 8 people) downplaying or outright denying the recommendations of trained scientists and/or good public policy makers has been a nightmare.
Click to expand...

Well they have been giving us some good fan fiction. Wannabe scientists who read an article or two that disputes dozen and dozens of experts around the world and take it as gospel.
 
schuelma

schuelma

Well-Known Member
DisneyCane said:
As long as hospital capacity doesn't become an issue and the number of daily fatalities doesn't significantly increase there is no need for drastic pullbacks. What is needed is for people to follow the guidelines.
Click to expand...

We're in late June- death's shouldn't be flat at this point. And part of the problem, clearly, is people are not following the guidelines and they need to be made mandatory.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Register on WDWMAGIC. This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.

Back
Top Bottom