Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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techgeek

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www.tampabay.com

Florida closing in on 100,000 coronavirus infections after adding 3,494 cases Sunday

The number of positive coroanvirus cases statewide was 97,291. An additional 17 reported deaths brought the death toll to 3,254.
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The Tampa Bay Times, as always, has an excellent write-up of today's numbers and the overall picture.

Some notable call-outs from the story:

In the 24-hour time span between the state’s Saturday update and Sunday morning report, an additional 98 coronavirus patients were admitted into Florida’s hospitals. The virus is now circulating throughout the population with a roughly 12 percent rate of positive tests, the highest rate of infection seen since mid-April and an abrupt shift away from earlier rates of about 5 percent, records show.

In just 10 days, the number of infections tracked by the Health Department has more than doubled. As recently as last week, the number of tests that came back positive for the coronavirus was still hovering under 5.5 percent.
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State officials warn that frequent delays in data reporting means that the cases and deaths reported by the state every day may have actually happened days or weeks earlier.
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It’s no longer just Florida’s older residents but young adults between 20 and 35 who are coming down with the virus, DeSantis said in a Saturday press conference.

“Our cases are shifting in a radical direction younger,” DeSantis said. “Much of the spread is in the younger populations and we are going to deal with that. Even hospital admissions have been skewed younger.”
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Honest question. I haven’t been keeping up with the details in Florida other than the general knowledge that the cases are climbing. Honestly I’m just happy everything is declining and we are trending towards normalcy (somewhat) in NY. What’s the general consensus as to why the numbers are increasing in Florida? One would first assume more testing capacity. Other than that what’s going on that’s contributing to the spike? Just people being lax? Disregards to masks?

the general consensus for the NY numbers was the fact that international travel enters NY first and the virus came to us from Europe via JFK and Newark airport. Maybe the virus is just making its way through the general population from NY down along the coast and this spike in Florida and other southern states may be inevitable. I’m simply assuming since the numbers are on the decline here (and I can assure you not everyone is properly social distancing in the greater NYC area) but now increasing outside of the originally hit regions of the tri-state area. Maybe this has to occur in the southeastern section of the country as part of the natural course of the virus. Again, just assuming, I have no studies or articles to support this
 
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legwand77

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There is also the theory that with the virus cases increasing but deaths decreasing and hospitalizations is that the virus is becoming less dangerous , virus attenuation and will die out even without a vaccine. That is a behavior of other corona virus' , still not confirmed for this one and totally might not be the case. If a virus kills it host it cannot spread, the less deadly variation/mutation is easier to spread.
 
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DKampy

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I have noticed it is spiking up a bit in Wisconsin after several weeks of a downward trend...which is suggesting it is the younger generation being less cautious. The areas that are seeing the largest spikes are college towns like Lacrosse and Madison. I have noticed the other counties are still consistent...It's not spiking enough here to cause alarm like a Florida or Arizona...our percent positive went from being in the lower 2 percent to 4 percent positive
 
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Jwink

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legwand77 said:
Hope it doesn't have to be canceled. Good news the numbers have gone down from yesterday , the two small hospital with 6 and 4 beds are filled but the Tampa regions is running at closer to 25% capacity up from 20%. They usually fluctuate between 20-25% so won't be surprised if they go back and forth for a while.
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It goes down every Sunday because labs are closed
 
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Jwink

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Lilofan said:
The $600 dollar a week stimulus checks run out in July. Incentive to go back to work to pay bills and FL eviction bans end July 1.
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Again... my husband makes more working than unemployed so there’s no agenda there. They’ll extend it all with the heroes act
 
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MotownMurder

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legwand77 said:
There is also the theory that with the virus cases increasing but deaths decreasing and hospitalizations is that the virus is becoming less dangerous , virus attenuation and will die out even without a vaccine. That is a behavior of other corona virus' , still not confirmed for this one and totally might not be the case. If a virus kills it host it cannot spread, the less deadly variation/mutation is easier to spread.
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That's interesting, I never thought about that. Part of me feels like it's just wishful thinking, but it sounds reasonable. We can only hope that's the case.
 
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Jwink

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Jrb1979 said:
IMO that's exactly what's going on. Things are opening and we won't be going into lockdown again. IMO when cases are rising like they are in Florida is to make masks mandatory and maybe pull back some rules. If restaurants have to drop capacity or just patio only then so be it. I see no issue with that.
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Will that even help at this point? I don’t know 😬
 
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legwand77 said:
There is also the theory that with the virus cases increasing but deaths decreasing and hospitalizations is that the virus is becoming less dangerous , virus attenuation and will die out even without a vaccine. That is a behavior of other corona virus' , still not confirmed for this one and totally might not be the case. If a virus kills it host it cannot spread, the less deadly variation/mutation is easier to spread.
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It’s a theory being pushed by a Italian doctor that almost every other person in the field rejects. Yes, it’s a theory but with no support. In fact if you do a search for it good luck finding anything. On the other hand there are numerous reports, studies and opinions by everyone else saying why it won’t “die out “. Here’s one I posted probably a week ago on the differences of Covid with others. It compares SARS-COV, one that people think just went away, which is false and a topic for somewhere else, with 19 .
www.healthline.com

Coronavirus vs. SARS

COVID-19 and SARS are both caused by coronaviruses. There are many similarities between these viruses. However, there are also key differences.
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easyrowrdw

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legwand77 said:
I did not say throw out the article or ignore them, just clarified that those were preprints. That is all. Preprints are useful for the reason you stated but were not peer reviewed studies.
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Again, that is not correct. Two of the articles have been peer-reviewed and accepted for publication. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468042720300117 can be found in the journal Infectious Disease Modelling Volume 5, 2020, Pages 293-308. https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/06/10/2009637117 can be found in the Proceedings for the National Academy of Sciences. It has not yet been assigned a volume.
 
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Hawg G

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Andrew C said:
It would be silly of them to make a decision based on one data point. You think they just look at raw total cases, and say, “well, let’s close up shop.” There is more information to consider in order for them to make appropriate decisions.
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You mean they won’t make a huge, rash decision based on a fairly insignificant number that the media is using to scare everyone?
 
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