Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Chi84]

We didn’t respect anyone’s decision on how much risk they were willing to take for two months. People were thrown in jail for surfing by themselves with no one around. I don’t think we should throw seniors in jail or ban them from places, but if you want to really save lives people should really make it clear to their older loved ones that there are some behaviors they shouldn’t be taking part in right now. It doesn’t matter what kind of shape they are in. Advanced age by itself is the single biggest risk factor for the most serious complications of COVID 19. People are more than willing to tell almost everyone else what to do, but the single biggest thing you can do to save lives for those at the highest risk is for some reason taboo.

If people are being thrown in jail, I assume it's for violating a law. Laws are made by the people we elect to make them - we give authority to our lawmakers to tell us what to do. You may not like every particular law, but they bind us all until they change.

I'm not sure advanced age "by itself" is the single biggest risk factor - most of us develop health problems as we age, so the elderly have both age and health problems working against them and it's difficult to separate them out. I am pretty sure that what type of shape you're in does matter in how well you fight off the disease. Also, unlike our elected representatives, people on the internet do not have the right to say what "behaviors" older loved ones should or shouldn't be taking part in. Clearly, everyone is entitled to their own opinion on how much right they have to tell others what to do, but to take the position that people "should really make clear" to older individuals something that everyone already knows is presumptuous and kind of insulting.

 

[Miss Bella]

We didn’t respect anyone’s decision on how much risk they were willing to take for two months. People were thrown in jail for surfing by themselves with no one around. I don’t think we should throw seniors in jail or ban them from places, but if you want to really save lives people should really make it clear to their older loved ones that there are some behaviors they shouldn’t be taking part in right now. It doesn’t matter what kind of shape they are in. Advanced age by itself is the single biggest risk factor for the most serious complications of COVID 19. People are more than willing to tell almost everyone else what to do, but the single biggest thing you can do to save lives for those at the highest risk is for some reason taboo.

Not all people are more than willing to tell other people what to do.

 

[brianstl]

Not all people are more than willing to tell other people what to do.

The last couple months make it clear that is not the case for most people. They just aren’t comfortable telling people they care about what to do and don’t want people to tell them things they don’t want to hear. They have no problem telling strangers what to do.

 

[Patcheslee]

There’s no way we would ever tell my MIL and FIL what to do. They are adults not children they make their own decisions. They love cruising I’m sure they’ll be back at it whenever cruises resume. I heard some rumors about some cruise lines restricting guests over 70, but I don’t know if that will happen. Retired folks are some cruise lines main customers.

I have a higher risk of death by MIL if I tried to tell them what to do

 

[Miss Bella]

The last couple months make it clear that is not the case for most people. They just aren’t comfortable telling people they care about what to do and don’t want people to tell them things they don’t want to hear. They have no problem telling strangers what to do.

A lot of people come here looking for advice or looking for a debate. I don’t think it’s comparable.

 

[_caleb]

I'm pushing one of those heavy duty lumber carts to the register checkout line and standing on my designated 6' spot (like the 3 year old at ballet lessons standing on her "star"). I'm 3rd in line for the register for building materials(large sized purchases)

I had 10' lumber on the cart and the end of the lumber was very near the customer in front of me who was on his 6' mark. Nuckelhead in front on me started in with "your cart is too close to me and your wood is too close; you ever hear of the 6' feet rule ?!? We're in a pandemic, remember??!!"
Decorum on this site won't allow for me to say how I verbally jumped all over him. Those behind me cheered and simpleton got out of line and presumably went to another register at the far end of store.

I have been working on some home projects while in my quarantine status and I discovered today that I needed a few supplies from Lowe's. I made a trip down to my local Lowe's wearing my mask. I found my needed supplies and then stood in line to pay. All of the cash register lanes had social distancing squares spaced about 6 feet apart and I joined the line on my square three people back from the cash register.

As I was waiting in line, another customer also joined the line behind me. However, rather than occupying the square six feet back, he got right behind me with less than a foot of distance between us. I asked him to move back to the social distancing square, but he said to me, "Naw, you've got plenty of room". I then stepped out of line and looked for another register to pay for my items.

As I walked away, I noticed a rather big and burly Lowe's associate (wearing a mask) come swiftly within not more than six feet of me and he asked me to stop. He quickly moved past me and confronted the man who had been behind me in line. The Lowe's associate took the merchandise from the man and demanded he leave the store immediately. The man began to say something ("This is America and you've got no right...") but the Lowe's associate interrupted him and stated loudly, "You've got 30 seconds to get out that door before I throw you out."

The associate then invited me to return to the line as he then escorted the social distancing violator outside.

After I made my purchases and went outside to my car, I noticed the same man being interviewed by a county deputy in front of the store.

Interesting

 

[Phil12]

Wow, excellent job of enforcement by that Lowe’s employee! I must ask, what state did this happen in?

Sunny Florida!

 

[Parker in NYC]

I love the short memories everyone has. I saw NOBODY thinking Disney would open in July until very recently, probably when it was known Universal was opening soon.

Plenty of folks said Epcot was done for the year. People were saying not till after summer.

I mean, until Universal's move, many were saying the whole country would be closed for a lot more time.

But, yeah, sure,you all thought this would happen...

Hold my beer.

 

[DCBaker]

 

[Parker in NYC]

I can't remember which thread we discussed Dollywood (no reopening plans as of yet) but I had to share Dolly's new song she wrote during the quarantine. We just don't deserve her magic.

 

[disneygeek90]

Just tested this out, it was pretty messy. Had to wait for an email supposedly sent out at noon. I received mine at 12:09 and by the time I got through to the site everything was gone for 6/4. I don't think I was going to go regardless but that wasn't a good process. I wonder if they will drop more for the other tiers of passes at 1 and 2, but I'm thinking no.

Edit: Now there are times available again, but it won't let me "add to cart." Not surprised that there's issues at all. Hopefully Disney's reservation system will be a little more developed and thought out.

 

[Ben_since_1971]

Hopefully Disney's reservation system will be a little more developed and thought out.

Thanks for the laugh. I will admit that Disney has done a much better job in recent years with their IT, it is still woeful for such a large corporation.

 

[DCBaker]

 

[Disstevefan1]

Sunny Florida!

Impressive, very impressive.

 

[disneygeek90]

Thanks for the laugh. I will admit that Disney has done a much better job in recent years with their IT, it is still woeful for such a large corporation.

I know, wishful thinking lol. I actually did get in for 6/4. I may be able to squeeze in a short visit after work.

 

[Patcheslee]

Does anyone know of parks in the US that are NOW open and used a reservation system for the day and times?
Apparently Six Flags system is up but with issues (have to buy a date specific ticket before reserving the day, and the days being unavailable for entry)
Then Uni is apparently having issues
We haven't even gotten to people going to the parks yet.

 

[GoofyPalWalt]

Has anyone heard any rumors or possible timeline for Florida lifting the 14 day isolation period for people arriving from the New York area? Have a reservation for December that should allow lots of time for this to be lifted but with the new reservation systems going in to place, I would like one more unknown to be taken care of.

 

[wdwmagic]

Has anyone heard any rumors or possible timeline for Florida lifting the 14 day isolation period for people arriving from the New York area? Have a reservation for December that should allow lots of time for this to be lifted but with the new reservation systems going in to place, I would like one more unknown to be taken care of.

Florida Governor has not been talking about that, but then he typically doesn't give a lot of notice ahead of announcing things.

 

[Mainahman]

You can chastise me now, but ill be there August 9th as long as all goes well.

Here are my intentions and thoughts.

Sure, the parks will not " be the same" but will they ever really be the same? Maybe I have to wear a mask, maybe i wont by then. But ask yourself this. will it change the wonder in a child's eyes the first time they see Pirates, or the first time you bite into that Churro. Do these memories change? No!

Sure there's no fast pass, something our family has hated, as we want to experience as we feel, not as we planned 6 months ago. Lets throw the clipboard of fun into the lagoon! The teary eyes when i drive under the welcome sign wont change.

There's silver linings in it all. Sure the park hours will be less, but if lines are shorter, and there's less guests, does one really need a 14 hour park day to " be on vacation"?

For us i say no. We are multi timers, and are lucky enough to live around 9 to 10 hours from the parks. We drive. We can be there tomorrow if we needed to be. We go about once a year.

For us Meet and Greets aren't something on our radar, neither is the 3 pm parade, but i will gladly point you there and tell you the time if you ask we dodge parades to ride our favorite attractions. Most of the time we try to dodge fireworks to grab an illusive ride on Peter Pans flight as we didn't get up early enough to get a fastpass.

We will relish these memories that this trip presents. Sure it wont be"The same" but for my niece and nephew that have never been, its more than a trip to Disney, Its one on one time with their Aunt and Uncle that moved away 6 years ago, and they never get to see. Its their first dolewhip, its their first Mickey pretzel. Its their first Safari. They are teenagers. Seeing the characters from the bridge and saying thats Mickey Mouse, is good enough for them.
Sure i want them to experience the fireworks, and no one does them better, and maybe by august they will, but if not, its more time to spend with them. Maybe we go to the springs, maybe we have a movie night in our room with our Disney Plus. Maybe we get up early and make a special pre day breakfast ( we have a suite this trip kind of exctited) to get charged for what park we have a reservation that day. Lots of personal magic can be made.

Sure the parks "Wont be the same" but they are different every single day. There will still be magic, some you may have to invent yourself, but, that is what Walt intended all those years ago. Its much more than the attractions, or the meet and greets, its the time spent with family that you will remember for ever and ever.

 

[wdwmagic]

You can chastise me now, but ill be there August 9th as long as all goes well.

Here are my intentions and thoughts.

Sure, the parks will not " be the same" but will they ever really be the same? Maybe I have to wear a mask, maybe i wont by then. But ask yourself this. will it change the wonder in a child's eyes the first time they see Pirates, or the first time you bite into that Churro. Do these memories change? No!

Sure there's no fast pass, something our family has hated, as we want to experience as we feel, not as we planned 6 months ago. Lets throw the clipboard of fun into the lagoon! The teary eyes when i drive under the welcome sign wont change.

There's silver linings in it all. Sure the park hours will be less, but if lines are shorter, and there's less guests, does one really need a 14 hour park day to " be on vacation"?

For us i say no. We are multi timers, and are lucky enough to live around 9 to 10 hours from the parks. We drive. We can be there tomorrow if we needed to be. We go about once a year.

For us Meet and Greets aren't something on our radar, neither is the 3 pm parade, but i will gladly point you there and tell you the time if you ask we dodge parades to ride our favorite attractions. Most of the time we try to dodge fireworks to grab an illusive ride on Peter Pans flight as we didn't get up early enough to get a fastpass.

We will relish these memories that this trip presents. Sure it wont be"The same" but for my niece and nephew that have never been, its more than a trip to Disney, Its one on one time with their Aunt and Uncle that moved away 6 years ago, and they never get to see. Its their first dolewhip, its their first Mickey pretzel. Its their first Safari. They are teenagers. Seeing the characters from the bridge and saying thats Mickey Mouse, is good enough for them.
Sure i want them to experience the fireworks, and no one does them better, and maybe by august they will, but if not, its more time to spend with them. Maybe we go to the springs, maybe we have a movie night in our room with our Disney Plus. Maybe we get up early and make a special pre day breakfast ( we have a suite this trip kind of exctited) to get charged for what park we have a reservation that day. Lots of personal magic can be made.

Sure the parks "Wont be the same" but they are different every single day. There will still be magic, some you may have to invent yourself, but, that is what Walt intended all those years ago. Its much more than the attractions, or the meet and greets, its the time spent with family that you will remember for ever and ever.

You have the right attitude to make it work, and for those like you, it will be great. However, a lot of people don't view it that way and it will be a challenge that they wont want to do.