Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[PrincessNelly_NJ]

In other theme park news (as a matter of comparison... or should we start another thread on that topic?)...



Growing up in Central Jersey, I've been through that drive-thru zoo many times. It was infamous for the primate section in which said primates pulled off your car anything they could: antennas, window gaskets, canvas spare-tire covers, etc...

It was also infamous for the dumb primates *in* the car who didn't keep their windows up and/or gave food to the animals (which made them aggressive beggars... cf. primate comments above).

But... just imagine Kilimanjaro Safari, but with air conditioning!

We once saw monkeys rip off the cloth hood on a car when I was a child at SFGA. I felt bad for the driver but it made for a really good laugh at the time.

We plan on going once they re-open but bypassing the monkey section lol

 

[danv3]

If it's like United Airlines, UA is expected to lay off 30% of staff starting around Oct 1.

You can expect all major airlines to implement massive layoffs on October 1, as soon as the limitations imposed by their bailout funds end.

 

[danv3]

I've already seen people stating they will punch someone at theme parks if not wearing a mask and get within 6ft. That's actually more concerning than the virus to me.

Confrontations between guests will probably the main enforcement mechanism for mask wearing once through initial screening.

 

[HongKongFooy]

I don't view Disney's security measures as "security theatre." I believe that in addition to whatever weapons they are able to prevent from going into the parks, an even larger number get left at home because of the potential of getting caught.

A most naive approach.

Screenings:
1)reduce payouts
2)bolster image

If one wants to get a weapon in it's as easy as pie.........basic for even the most novice smuggler.

The process is indeed theatre to help reduce the prospects of payouts when something dreadful goes down. Disney will payout with or without the screening. But with the process in place Disney can reduce its level of culpability, thus reduce the amount of potential payout.
Also the illusion of real security helps guests like you feel more safe. There's that image I was talking about above.

 

[jinx8402]

A most naive approach.

Screenings:
1)reduce payouts
2)bolster image

If one wants to get a weapon in it's as easy as pie.........basic for even the most novice smuggler.

The process is indeed theatre to help reduce the prospects of payouts when something dreadful goes down. Disney will payout with or without the screening. But with the process in place Disney can reduce its level of culpability, thus reduce the amount of potential payout.
Also the illusion of real security helps guests like you feel more safe. There's that image I was talking about above.

I don't know. I think a good lawyer would be able to make the case that with security screenings in place, Disney should have caught the weapon brought in, thus looking for a higher payout in any lawsuit.

 

[wdwmagic]

PHOTOS - First day of reopening for Disney Springs since COVID-19 shutdown

PHOTOS - First day of reopening for Disney Springs since COVID-19 shutdown

See inside Disney Springs on its reopening day.

www.wdwmagic.com

 

[wdisney9000]

I don’t even know who Selter is, don’t watch that show. It comes down to people that want to wear them, that’s great. People who don’t, that’s fine also. When wanting to go into any business, where that business has a condition of wearing a mask, you should not be allowed. Go shop somewhere else then. It’s Trader Joe’s right along with Disney to set rules in anyway they see fit with the health and data they are receiving from health officials and others. Go somewhere else to get your chips or ravioli and stop trying to make these owners be the bad guy. They are not. As been discussed here as nauseam , stop complaining about Disney with their mask policy, just don’t go. I wear a mask and have no problem in any stores. I also won’t go to Disney until I don’t have to wear one. It’s really easy.
Not saying YOU are making owners feel bad, I mean people in general.

There are a very small number of people you are referring to, and I agree, they should take there business elsewhere if the establishment has a mask rule.

However, any news outlet could just as easily select a few random clips of the mask mafia crowd that get violent with anybody NOT wearing a mask and make those people appear to be the "bad guy".

In the end , both groups are ridiculous.

 

[Horizons '83]

A most naive approach.

Screenings:
1)reduce payouts
2)bolster image

If one wants to get a weapon in it's as easy as pie.........basic for even the most novice smuggler.

The process is indeed theatre to help reduce the prospects of payouts when something dreadful goes down. Disney will payout with or without the screening. But with the process in place Disney can reduce its level of culpability, thus reduce the amount of potential payout.
Also the illusion of real security helps guests like you feel more safe. There's that image I was talking about above.

I guess I don't see your point. If you were running a business of that scale with 10's of thousands of people entering your parks, how would you do it differently and more efficiently? Would you not care about liability? Legal ramifications? If you didn't you'd be out of business pretty quickly.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

There are a very small number of people you are referring to, and I agree, they should take there business elsewhere if the establishment has a mask rule.

However, any news outlet could just as easily select a few random clips of the mask mafia crowd that get violent with anybody NOT wearing a mask and make those people appear to be the "bad guy".

In the end , both groups are ridiculous.

Agreed. One group seems to be the loudest, which makes for top of the newscast. If everyone was just doing what the business asked, it would be a slow news day and you would not see these video posts.

 

[John park hopper]

There have been multiple instances of guests at WDW being caught at the bag check stations trying to bring weapons into the parks, so they must have achieved some measure of safety.

Where did you get this information from?

 

[Yodascousin]

Reports coming from China that the new cases there appear to be a mutation which leads to no symptoms or just fatigue and a sore throat with no fever...the incubation period is longer but thankfully it’s far less deadly and much more treatable

 

[Rider]

Where did you get this information from?

Disney gun security - Google Search

www.google.com

 

[Rider]

Please don't get political. And please stay on topic - would YOU go to WDW with restrictions in place?

This happened the other day so it's the reason I ask, if not feel free to ignore me: but did you mean to post this here instead of in the poll thread?

 

[John park hopper]

Please don't get political. And please stay on topic - would YOU go to WDW with restrictions in place?

When someone posts inaccurate information it should be deleted or else expect people to refute such inaccurate information

 

[Andrew C]

When someone posts inaccurate information it should be deleted or else expect people to refute such inaccurate information

you want the mods to fact check everything that is posted in this thread?

 

[brianstl]

Reports coming from China that the new cases there appear to be a mutation which leads to no symptoms or just fatigue and a sore throat with no fever...the incubation period is longer but thankfully it’s far less deadly and much more treatable

This is really the best hope. If the dominant strain of this virus would mutate to become more like its two cousins that cause the common cold, I think is more realistic than a quick vaccine.

 

[The Mom]

This happened the other day so it's the reason I ask, if not feel free to ignore me: but did you mean to post this here instead of in the poll thread?

You are absolutely correct - if people would not post the same things in multiple threads, and carry over discussion about Covid to a dozen different threads, it would be easier to keep track of which thread I'm in. Mea Culpa

 

[Yodascousin]

This is really the best hope. If the dominant strain of this virus would mutate to become more like its two cousins that cause the common cold, I think is more realistic than a quick vaccine.

I agree fingers crossed this is what’s happening which I believe is a real possibility when looking at the declining death rate across Europe

 

[HongKongFooy]

Disney should have caught the weapon brought in, thus looking for a higher payout in any lawsuit.

Absolutely not.......you got it backwards.

 

[Hawg G]

This. The closest modern comparison here is the "no costumes" and "no smoking rule." Both are enforced quite strictly.

Disney Bounding says hello.