Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[MisterPenguin]

Wine Bar George in DS out with info on how they will handle their reopening -

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Guest Experience:

• All menus will be contactless. We will use digital menus, guests will view menus with their own personal device.

Mask debate has been going on long enough. Time to restart the "not everyone has a smartphone" debate.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Mask debate has been going on long enough. Time to restart the "not everyone has a smartphone" debate.

I am aware of three folks on Facebook who have children with autism who do not use smartphones. They will be Zooming their attorneys in the morning.

 

[GoofGoof]

Mask debate has been going on long enough. Time to restart the "not everyone has a smartphone" debate.

You don’t need a smartphone, you just point at the bottle of wine you want and smile...no wait they can’t see you smile in a mask, gonna have to go with a head nod instead.

 

[Miss Bella]

I can imagine a scenario where the video on the Magic Express bus (if the service continues) starts with the type of video you get on the plane (exit points, seat belt requirements, oxygen masks etc), but instead focuses on mask wearing in the parks with tips to prevent chaffing, advice on when to change masks etc.

Oh geez, Let's hope not.

 

[Miss Bella]

So many people here think just because the state of Florida says things should reopen that Disney will follow blindly. Not gonna happen...

You don't think Disney wants to open as much as the state wants them too? If there's was an award for a company that likes emptying people's wallets I think Disney would win hands down.

 

[MisterPenguin]

 

[TrojanUSC]

You don't think Disney wants to open as much as the state wants them too? If there's was an award for a company that likes emptying people's wallets I think Disney would win hands down.

No. Florida, for better or worse, is partially driven by politics and a need to open the economy. It's "baked into the cake" that there will be an uptick in infections as stuff starts to reopen. The question is how much of an uptick will there be and how effective are other places able to mitigate spread using similar measures. As has been said many times on here, Disney has every reason to proceed cautiously on this, even if the state allows them to open. It is much better for their brand to remain closed an extra month or three, than risk reopening and having an outbreak happen on property and having to close again. 100 CMs testing positive and exposing tens of thousands of guests to a deadly virus is a very possible situation, but one that is an absolute nightmare scenario for TWDC. This could lead to several years of lagging attendance if guests feel unsafe about visiting.

The other angle to this is what is the CDC saying? If Florida is five steps ahead of the CDC, it would be rare for Disney to override them, given how many guests must travel from out of state and then potentially bring the virus back to their home cities.

Remember Disney closed basically when the CDC recommendation came down. They did not wait for Florida to tell them to do so.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Frontier Airlines to require passengers to wear face coverings

Frontier Airlines will begin requiring that its passengers wear a face covering over their nose and mouth, effective May 8, 2020.

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And others are following suit.

 

[brianstl]

@Rteetz Just posted this tweet over at DIS.

 

[Kobe!!]

The best part of the video was the last 3 seconds when they took the picture with all their masks on. (sarcasm)

 

[Miss Bella]

No. Florida, for better or worse, is partially driven by politics and a need to open the economy. It's "baked into the cake" that there will be an uptick in infections as stuff starts to reopen. The question is how much of an uptick will there be and how effective are other places able to mitigate spread using similar measures. As has been said many times on here, Disney has every reason to proceed cautiously on this, even if the state allows them to open. It is much better for their brand to remain closed an extra month or three, than risk reopening and having an outbreak happen on property and having to close again. 100 CMs testing positive and exposing tens of thousands of guests to a deadly virus is a very possible situation, but one that is an absolute nightmare scenario for TWDC. This could lead to several years of lagging attendance if guests feel unsafe about visiting.

The other angle to this is what is the CDC saying? If Florida is five steps ahead of the CDC, it would be rare for Disney to override them, given how many guests must travel from out of state and then potentially bring the virus back to their home cities.

Remember Disney closed basically when the CDC recommendation came down. They did not wait for Florida to tell them to do so.

It's hard for me to wrap my brain around it because I've been exposed to COVID so many times. You could get in anywhere and not even know you had it. I know things that you won't hear in the media, but I resigned myself to just go along with it all. I don't think anything is a given when it comes to what's going on right now. I'm hoping WDW opens before August.

 

[techgeek]

The other angle to this is what is the CDC saying? If Florida is five steps ahead of the CDC, it would be rare for Disney to override them, given how many guests must travel from out of state and then potentially bring the virus back to their home cities.

Remember Disney closed basically when the CDC recommendation came down. They did not wait for Florida to tell them to do so.

I’m tiptoeing towards political waters, but recent CDC guidance has been very obvious in its absence. There has not been a significant update on the public CDC guidance page since 4/26 (prior to that there had been regular, almost daily, publications). This is apparently intentional, to filter the flow of information through the state governments - which is exactly where re-opening has been driven from so far.

We might presume the state, and possibly Disney directly, are privy to specific non-public guidance from the CDC. Going forward I expect to see the CDC weigh in on matters like international travel, and general scientific updates on the situation, but I don’t think you’ll see the kind of specific local guidelines from them we saw in the shutdown phase.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

Trump administration buries detailed CDC advice on reopening

GAINESVILLE, Fla. (AP) — The Trump administration shelved a document created by the nation's top disease investigators with step-by-step advice to local authorities on how and when to reopen restaurants and other public places during the still-raging coronavirus outbreak.

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[Lilofan]

It's hard for me to wrap my brain around it because I've been exposed to COVID so many times. You could get in anywhere and not even know you had it. I know things that you won't hear in the media, but I resigned myself to just go along with it all. I don't think anything is a given when it comes to what's going on right now. I'm hoping WDW opens before August.

If I were you, you better get tested. That's a no brainer.

 

[Lilofan]

Shanghai Disneyland tickets sell out as park prepares to re-open

Tickets for the earliest days of Shanghai Disneyland's re-opening in China sold out rapidly on Friday, according to the park's website, as it prepares to next week end a three-month shutdown because of the coronavirus outbreak. Shanghai Disneyland first shut down on Jan 25, as public venues...

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WDW following the SHDL re-opening..

 

[Seanual757]

So many people here think just because the state of Florida says things should reopen that Disney will follow blindly. Not gonna happen...

Blind No but you can bet the governor is pushing them to open. It's going to happen if Disney/Universal do not open the majority of the businesses in Orange and Osceola County that rely on the traffic from the both may never open again. Let's face it we need to tourism to keep this area going that is what we are we are like Las Vegas with out the Casinos on the strip and downtown open they have nothing. We are not like So Cal where Disneyland does not control the area we do not have much to fall back on. If say Disney and Universal say we will not open until Spring 2021 the domino's will fall and fall hard from the small businesses, tourism, travel, conventions, construction, the list goes on and on.

 

[SourcererMark79]

Blind No but you can bet the governor is pushing them to open. It's going to happen if Disney/Universal do not open the majority of the businesses in Orange and Osceola County that rely on the traffic from the both may never open again. Let's face it we need to tourism to keep this area going that is what we are we are like Las Vegas with out the Casinos on the strip and downtown open they have nothing. We are not like So Cal where Disneyland does not control the area we do not have much to fall back on. If say Disney and Universal say we will not open until Spring 2021 the domino's will fall and fall hard from the small businesses, tourism, travel, conventions, construction, the list goes on and on.

As of last week, an estimated 650 million dollar shortfall from lost sales tax revenue for the state of FL. As there is no state income tax, sales tax funds many state agency programs, including education.

 

[Polynesia]

The best part of the video was the last 3 seconds when they took the picture with all their masks on. (sarcasm)

If people find this non magical they always have the option to just not go visit. Some guests apparently are ok with this since several days tickets sold out in minutes. I suspect it will sell out quickly in the US, too, when it opens up.

 

[Seanual757]

As of last week, an estimated 650 million dollar shortfall from lost sales tax revenue for the state of FL. As there is no state income tax, sales tax funds many state agency programs, including education.

correct and when you have zero tourism, hundreds of thousands out of work not able to pay bills, businesses not able to pay bills, construction projects going on hold and being pushed back. This is what happens when we lay our eggs in 1 basket but you can bet we will see resorts (not all at once) and parks open sometime in June.

 

[HongKongFooy]

Since they announced Singapore Disney

And here I thought I had been to all of the Disney parks around the world.

I'll have to check that one out.

 

[HongKongFooy]

. Wearing a mask for an hour or two while shopping mostly indoors ....

But as you know Springs, as a mall, is entirely outdoors. Most individual tenants have indoor spaces but those indoor spaces generally speaking do not attract locals, relative to tourists especially when it comes to buying.

As a local who has been to Springs say 200 times....high, low, any season, weekends and weekdays, early and late in the days:
The only meaningful demographic tapping Springs in the early reopening days will be locals. They go to walk around for lake the scenery, grab a Starbuck coffee, happy hour at Irish Pub. They are not normally in the business of eating at the likes of expensive Paddlefish and gaudy T Rex. (Sure if celebrating something once a year like anniversary or child birthday)Locals will line up for a concert at House of Blues, kick back and people watch or do quick service treats.

Shopping indoors not so much.