Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[peter11435]

I’m not saying we should rush to reopen the country, but, The longer everyone isolates and remains at home the weaker everyone’s immune system becomes.

 

[cr3346]

PA is doing it way better then Ohio! We're...
Starting Friday, May 1, golf courses, marinas, guided fishing trips and privately owned campgrounds may reopen statewide...

What the...uh...huh. Right. Guess everyone's golfing on Friday then.

Governor Announces May 1 Statewide Reopening of Limited Outdoor Recreational Activities to Help Pennsylvanians Maintain Positive Physical, Mental Health

To ensure that Pennsylvanians have opportunities to safely enjoy outdoor recreation as a way to maintain positive physical and mental health, and in keeping with the commonwealth’s stay-at-home orders to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, Governor Tom Wolf today announced that the Wolf...

www.governor.pa.gov

I'll be out there! Probably Friday, Saturday and Sunday

It's supposed to be nice this weekend too!

 

[techgeek]

The parking lot situation is better there but I was thinking that if they used the road to CR for parking trams they could actually take you from the parking lot right to the front gate at MK.

I have actually ridden a parking tram from the TTC to MK, back in the 90s. During peak times it was offered as an overflow if the rail and ferry lines backed up. The TTC ‘bus loop’ that is between the gift shop and Epcot monorail station was used as a tram loop. Those trams felt fast zipping around the lot, but were relatively pokey on the open road.

There was a lot less bus and car traffic on that road back then also. I’d imagine if they did that with guests these days they’d probably close the road?

 

[ToTBellHop]

Right, but is that good enough? So to meet the recommendation the decision has to be made to either attempt full social distancing everywhere at WDW (not practical), provide enough screening that social distancing is not necessary (not sure that’s even possible with asymptomatic spread) or some hybrid of the 2 approaches including some things like temperature scans and health questionnaires combined with some social distancing when it’s possible (changing queue lines, spacing tables, limiting transportation capacity and all the other stuff talked about). The final option is wait until phase 3 and avoid having to significantly alter the experience. Even in phase 3 there will be some changes but not as dramatic or as detrimental to guest’s enjoyment.

It’s been understood for awhile that distancing can relax progressively with enhanced screening. I suspect airports will play a big role in mitigating spread.

 

[Andrew C]

Tyson Foods sounding the alarm on the food supply chain in the NYT today.

 

[hopemax]

Why you people are so afraid of a second wave?? If it happens it will be minimun and you wouldn't realize, stop watching fake news, anything can kill you, even if you are in your house now you can just slip and hit you head and die! There can be other viruses or microorganisms that can get into your head and eat your brain!

Because despite all the new information about this virus, the one thing that hasn't been proven to have been overestimated is the R0. If anything, they have revised it upwards, closer to 3.

So 1 person has it, and 4 days later 3 people have it, and 4 days later 9 people have it and 4 days later 27 people have it, and so on. In my state, there were 712 cases discovered yesterday. We know we aren't catching all of them. The New York City data, showed that we are catching 1 in 8. Over the last couple of days, our testing has improved, so lets say we've halved that and now it's 1 in 4. If 1 person can potentially lead to 27 new cases in 12 days, how many new cases would that be for 2800 people?

Last I checked, me falling on my head won't generate those kinds of numbers. Falling on one's head is not contagious.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

It’s been understood for awhile that distancing can relax progressively with enhanced screening.

I misread this as Enchanted Screening, which...I mean, I could totally see Disney calling it that.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

I misread this as Enchanted Screening, which...I mean, I could totally see Disney calling it that.

Possibly a upcharge also. I read the same thing.

 

[Polynesia]

Gov De Santis has reiterated daily that this will be a slow process for Florida. The decisions will be data driven. We’re not there yet and I’m grateful we’re taking it slow. I don’t want to have to close down again. I hope it works out for the states that are reopening

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

the Spanish flu has zero influence on my “second wave afraid-o-meter.” Different time, different circumstances.

That's what people said in 1918 about epidemics that happened before 1918.

I'm not being sarcastic at all about that.

Time and again people made the mistake of thinking it wouldn't come to their area.

Ships. Ships are trouble! They were trouble in 1918. They were trouble in the 1850's. They were trouble in the 1350's. They were even trouble back in 540 AD!

When will we learn ships are just plain trouble?

Oh, wait.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Brown Derby
50s Prime Time
Mama Melrose
Sci Fi Drive In

Plus Hollywood & Vine could provide Table Service if needed.

Well, there's also Woody's BBQ Roundup if it gets finished being built. Which it probably won't for a year to two. But... it's a thing!

 

[MisterPenguin]

I’m not saying we should rush to reopen the country, but, The longer everyone isolates and remains at home the weaker everyone’s immune system becomes.

Source?

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Tyson Foods sounding the alarm on the food supply chain in the NYT today.

They are very ticked off because they had so much pressure to close. They didn’t want to as workers started getting sick. When they were confronted with workers going to the media they closed. I’m sure this response is just a..” you closed us so now you’re going to pay” kind of response.

 

[hopemax]

Given those numbers, what happens if there is never a vaccine? Do we as a people just turn our lives off?

In the medium-term, yes, there will be continued restrictions. If there is never a vaccine, then we are on the herd immunity path. Despite WHO warnings, they aren't really warning that people don't get immunity. They are telling governments to slow down on immunity passports because we can't guarantee long lasting immunity, when we are only 5 months into a virus, or if mild/asymptomatic people have the same level of antibody protection as more serious cases.

So yes, then people will continue to get sick, but by spreading it out over a longer period of time we can develop treatment protocols that will hopefully keep more people alive than if we just let this run wild from Day 1. We know now this is not only a respiratory virus but a virus that attacks the lungs, kidneys, heart, vascular system and wherever else we might find out about. This saves lives. And we continue to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed at any given time.

To use a new WDW phrase, we'll be working on a "boarding pass" system for allowing people to get sick. 1st group was the people already exposed via community spread or travel, then the doctors, first responders, care facilities etc,. Now we're onto the processing plants and other essential businesses who can't effectively social distance. Opening other businesses is granting another group their "boarding pass." I predict that at some point, the elementary schools will get their "boarding pass" with instructions to keep those kids away from vulnerable populations as much as people can. The health officials, cautioning restrictions for 12 -18 months had their reasons for doing so.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Well, there's also Woody's BBQ Roundup if it gets finished being built. Which is probably won't for a year to two. But... it's a thing!

I got high hopes for that place. Now give me a Greek Taverna somewhere on property, a good Philly Cheesesteak (Better than CSR) and a place like Zeughauskeller or Les Armures - and I'm all set.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Interesting article, really goes through it all.

We Still Don’t Know How the Coronavirus Is Killing Us

Six months in, doctors and researchers are continuing to discover dangerous new ways COVID-19 affects the body.

nymag.com

It’s not unheard of, of course, for a disease to express itself in complicated or hard-to-parse ways, attacking or undermining the functioning of a variety of organs. And it’s common, as researchers and doctors scramble to map the shape of a new disease, for their understanding to evolve quite quickly. But the degree to which doctors and scientists are, still, feeling their way, as though blindfolded, toward a true picture of the disease cautions against any sense that things have stabilized, given that our knowledge of the disease hasn’t even stabilized. Perhaps more importantly, it’s a reminder that the coronavirus pandemic is not just a public-health crisis but a scientific one as well. And that as deep as it may feel we are into the coronavirus, with tens of thousands dead and literally billions in precautionary lockdown, we are still in the very early stages, when each new finding seems as likely to cloud or complicate our understanding of the coronavirus as it is to clarify it. Instead, confidence gives way to uncertainty.

 

[JoeCamel]

They are very ticked off because they had so much pressure to close. They didn’t want to as workers started getting sick. When they were confronted with workers going to the media they closed. I’m sure this response is just a..” you closed us so now you’re going to pay” kind of response.

Umm no, business does not do spite. They want to be open making money and not ruin their brand.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Umm no, business does not do spite. They want to be open making money and not ruin their brand.

I get that, is why they were fighting closing. Google Tyson exec, might be able to find the interview I watched. He was ticked off and saying employees were not telling the truth in a lot of cases. Just came across as someone who would do “spite”.

 

[Lilofan]

I got high hopes for that place. Now give me a Greek Taverna somewhere on property, a good Philly Cheesesteak (Better than CSR) and a place like Zeughauskeller or Les Armures - and I'm all set.

In 2009 Chef Kat Cora opened up Kouzinna , a Greek inspired restaurant from her childhood. It closed a few years ago. It was at the Boardwalk resort. It was delicious and very flavorful. I missed that place.

 

[John park hopper]

In this day and age I wonder why chicken processing is not totally automated. Factory fishing boats process the whole fish--- gut it, fillet it, skin it and off to the freezer minimum of human involvmement