News Coronado Springs Expansion - Gran Destino Tower

[Missing20K]

Where are the slot machines located?

The elevator destination dispatch system could be a pseudo slot machine. Select your floor, gamble on which elevator the touch screen will direct you to. The bonus hits when you accidentally selected the wrong floor and have no way to change your destination after boarding the cab.

 

[larryz]

Outdoor lawn parties for conventioneers or weddings.

Cost savings.

 

[SorcererMC]

If their intent was to bring Dali like design into the space, which I don't think it was, then they know they failed. Dali's designs seem to be more natural than structural and there's always an outstanding element that makes the viewer say "that's odd"... but still they were beautiful. Here, the entire exterior structure is very rigid and mathematical in nature, not natural. That lattice work is their opportunity to give it the flowing Dali influence, yet it too comes across as mechanical. ... And yet, they claim the inspiration for the resort was the film collaboration between Dali and Disney. I see images here and there, and a desk lamp... other than that I'm not seeing it at all.

I admit that I'm confused as to how you and others aren't seeing it, because it seems obvious to me. A couple of examples:
The ironwork as an architectural. element is Gaudí -inspired. The eyes in the middle, are Dalí .

The lattice in the Dahlia lounge has the bell-shaped dancer from the short at the 2:30 mark, as well as more eye shapes.

 

[DisneyOutsider]

Say what you will about the lack of focused theming in the tower, but after looking at all of the walk-through photos and videos and commentary here, it's clear that this was not some low-effort, courtyard Marriott copy/paste job. This place looks pretty cool! If the rooms had balconies, it might be pushing the boundary between Moderate and Deluxe.

 

[DisneyOutsider]

When will they learn to look up names of places before they say something?

It appears he thinks the restaurant was themed after a town in Ohio

For someone who has lived in Florida for so long, it's really inexcusable to be so poor at Spanish pronunciations.

 

[ptaylor]

I was very surprised to see all this exposed HVAC machinery. And this thing it LOUD. It is very close to the beach area and rooms.

 

[Missing20K]

I admit that I'm confused as to how you and others aren't seeing it, because it seems obvious to me. A couple of examples:
The ironwork as an architectural. element is Gaudí -inspired. The eyes in the middle, are Dalí .
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The lattice in the Dahlia lounge has the bell-shaped dancer from the short at the 2:30 mark, as well as more eye shapes.
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Find me a rectilinear punched opening in a Guadi building. Where is the whimsy in the architectural and structural elements? What structural elements relate to biology and the natural world?

The mosaic bench is a horrific knockoff of the serpentine benches at Park Guell.

Applied accoutrements take some subtle cues from the two men and their work. But it's far from a completely realized theme, it tells virtually no story, and is in conflict with the surrounding resort.

"Disney's Coronado Springs Resort - A Vaguely Contempofusion Hispania* Resort"

*Contempofusion Hispania a trademarked copyright of @MisterPenguin*

 

[Andrew C]

I was very surprised to see all this exposed HVAC machinery. And this thing it LOUD. It is very close to the beach area and rooms.

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Seems like that fencing is temporary and it will eventually be enclosed?

 

[Missing20K]

I was very surprised to see all this exposed HVAC machinery. And this thing it LOUD. It is very close to the beach area and rooms.

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No way that remains exposed.

 

[ptaylor]

Seems like that fencing is temporary and it will eventually be enclosed?

No way that remains exposed.

The biggest issue is the noise, and I don't see any fix for that.

 

[Missing20K]

The biggest issue is the noise, and I don't see any fix for that.

There are numerous products for sound attenuating exterior walls/enclosures.

 

[SorcererMC]

Find me a rectilinear punched opening in a Guadi building. Where is the whimsy in the architectural and structural elements? What structural elements relate to biology and the natural world?

The mosaic bench is a horrific knockoff of the serpentine benches at Park Guell.

Applied accoutrements take some subtle cues from the two men and their work. But it's far from a completely realized theme, it tells virtually no story, and is in conflict with the surrounding resort.

"Disney's Coronado Springs Resort - A Vaguely Contempofusion Hispania* Resort"

*Contempofusion Hispania a trademarked copyright of @MisterPenguin*

Again - my comments refer to the Gran Destino hotel itself, and not the issue of a lack of an overarching theme for the entire resort.
The cookie-cutter exterior leaves a lot to be desired, but I don't believe for a second that Disney would construct a building that looks like it is melting in the hot Florida sun. Not even something as subtle as this:

 

[ptaylor]

There are numerous products for sound attenuating exterior walls/enclosures.

It will be interesting to see what happens with it.

 

[Missing20K]

Again - my comments refer to the Gran Destino hotel itself, and not the issue of a lack of an overarching theme for the entire resort.
The cookie-cutter exterior leaves a lot to be desired, but I don't believe for a second that Disney would construct a building that looks like it is melting in the hot Florida Sun. Not even something as subtle as this:
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My comments also only referred to the Tower. Any mention of the surrounding resort is because the tower is in conflict with it due to design decisions or lack thereof.

Agree that DIS wouldn't build something like that stateside.

 

[Missing20K]

It will be interesting to see what happens with it.

They will build something like this for it.

 

[note2001]

I admit that I'm confused as to how you and others aren't seeing it, because it seems obvious to me. A couple of examples:
The ironwork as an architectural. element is Gaudí -inspired. The eyes in the middle, are Dalí .
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The lattice in the Dahlia lounge has the bell-shaped dancer from the short at the 2:30 mark, as well as more eye shapes.
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I'm not saying there aren't tiny touches from the film in the resort (if you can call those eyes tiny, LOL) but that the touches are too mathematical.

If Imagineering was given free reign I'm sure they would have come up with designs that echoed of Dali's influence and transformed before our eyes with lighting. Imagine that lattice work morphing from what it is, to the flock of birds flying, to casting shadows of the bell/woman on the ground as the directions and reflections change. An upgrade could still be done to make it so, but Disney almost never goes back to resorts once built and improves upon design. Last time I saw that happen it was to put covered walkways out to the bus stops at Kidani.

For the record: I love the interior.

 

[peter11435]

The biggest issue is the noise, and I don't see any fix for that.

These exist all over property and I bet you are unaware of your close proximity to them all the time. This will be no different.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I'm not saying there aren't tiny touches from the film in the resort (if you can call those eyes tiny, LOL) but that the touches are too mathematical.

If Imagineering was given free reign I'm sure they would have come up with designs that echoed of Dali's influence and transformed before our eyes with lighting. Imagine that lattice work morphing from what it is, to the flock of birds flying, to casting shadows of the bell/woman on the ground as the directions and reflections change. An upgrade could still be done to make it so, but Disney almost never goes back to resorts once built and improves upon design. Last time I saw that happen it was to put covered walkways out to the bus stops at Kidani.

For the record: I love the interior.

The artists in us certainly would have liked to have seen Disney push the boundaries and have a tower facade that looked like it was melting and other Daliesque touches.

But I don't think the conventioneers would have been into that. This tower was made for the high-roller conventioneer. Subtle touches and grand non-threatening architectural elements was the best compromise one would expect.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Again - my comments refer to the Gran Destino hotel itself, and not the issue of a lack of an overarching theme for the entire resort.
The cookie-cutter exterior leaves a lot to be desired, but I don't believe for a second that Disney would construct a building that looks like it is melting in the hot Florida sun. Not even something as subtle as this:
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Why couldn’t Disney do something simple like this if the story is so important? It could all be done as carved stucco. Even on the interior, filleting the corners would go a long way towards reducing the stark contrast.

 

[SorcererMC]

Why couldn’t Disney do something simple like this if the story is so important? It could all be done as carved stucco. Even on the interior, filleting the corners would go a long way towards reducing the stark contrast.

Ruling out a materials or time issue, too risky in a market that loves minimalism in hotel design. Call me cynical but I don't think the consumer market would respond favorably to it, to look like somewhere they would want to stay.

And might seem too 'out of place', increasing the obvious differences between the existing resort and the new building.
(Didn't they re-paint some? I haven't seen it.)