Commander Chris's Sep. 27th update

The_CEO

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PhotoDave219... Do you live in Orlando now?

Hmmm... How would you know when it was sunny or not? Weather.com isnt gonna tell ya...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

X2CommNavISTC

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Hm. Lets see. How about we get back to basics. Enough with the check. Where you there? Nope. Ok then.

So anyways. Speaking of Nemo, does anyone know how long they plan on keeping the M&G there?
 

Woody13

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Originally posted by X2CommNavISTC
Hm. Lets see. How about we get back to basics. Enough with the check. Where you there? Nope. Ok then.

Sorry. I was just trying to help you understand why you might have come under the scrutiny of WDW security. Didn't mean to offend you in any way. :wave:
 

mkt

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Originally posted by Woody13
You are absolutely correct. I suppose I should have said when it's anything other than a cool or cold day, jackets make security personnel suspicious. Hand bags also tend to set of the alarm.

so does a guest in business attire with a laptop.. :rolleyes:
 

Woody13

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Originally posted by mkt
so does a guest in business attire with a laptop.. :rolleyes:

Why would the average visitor bring a laptop into any of the WDW parks? Inquiring minds (and security) want to know. :cool:
 

mkt

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Originally posted by Woody13
Why would the average visitor bring a laptop into any of the WDW parks? Inquiring minds (and security) want to know. :cool:

I'm not an average visitor.. I went to Epcot on a weekday evening, as an annual passholder, to have a few gourmet coffees in World Showcase and get some work done on my computer. I told this to the security CM and he informed me if I was to be seen again with my laptop out I would be escorted out of the park. I asked for a security manager, and was told one would be there shortly. One never arrived, I complained to guest relations and handed in my AP for a refund, which I received. Now I wish I had kept my AP. Oh well. To some WDW is lots of things... to me, World Showcase is a giant Starbucks with a better variety of food/drinks.
 

Woody13

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Originally posted by mkt
I'm not an average visitor.. I went to Epcot on a weekday evening, as an annual passholder, to have a few gourmet coffees in World Showcase and get some work done on my computer. I told this to the security CM and he informed me if I was to be seen again with my laptop out I would be escorted out of the park. I asked for a security manager, and was told one would be there shortly. One never arrived, I complained to guest relations and handed in my AP for a refund, which I received. Now I wish I had kept my AP. Oh well. To some WDW is lots of things... to me, World Showcase is a giant Starbucks with a better variety of food/drinks.

Just as WDW has rules concerning backstage pictures, I think they are probably also very concerned with wireless access to their various networks. The average PDA is not a threat but a properly configured laptop might (for example) pick up all the Pal Mickey information.
 

mkt

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Originally posted by Woody13
Just as WDW has rules concerning backstage pictures, I think they are probably also very concerned with wireless access to their various networks. The average PDA is not a threat but a properly configured laptop might (for example) pick up all the Pal Mickey information.

then they should have checked my laptop. My wireless card wasn't in. I was editing pictures and writing a few letters. Nothing more. But then again, this method of thinking is beyond the minds of Disney Security Management... since I couldn't even get a manager to explain what I did wrong. Hell... they checked my bag when I entered, and they saw my laptop in it. I was told nothing at the gate. Nothing.

Also... Disney runs a secure Wireless LAN with a 128 bit hexkey controlling access. Even IF I wanted to get into it, I don't have the time or patience to... and nothing to gain. But that was more on a personal note.
 

Woody13

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Originally posted by mkt
then they should have checked my laptop. My wireless card wasn't in. I was editing pictures and writing a few letters. Nothing more. But then again, this method of thinking is beyond the minds of Disney Security Management... since I couldn't even get a manager to explain what I did wrong. Hell... they checked my bag when I entered, and they saw my laptop in it. I was told nothing at the gate. Nothing.

Also... Disney runs a secure Wireless LAN with a 128 bit hexkey controlling access. Even IF I wanted to get into it, I don't have the time or patience to... and nothing to gain. But that was more on a personal note.

Yes, I agree. However the average WDW security person is not going to have expert computer knowledge. You know as well as I that some people wouldn't know a laptop if it hit them in the head while others might. I think your last statement is the key. While you and I don't desire such access, there are some people that would spend the time to hack into the system. Some do such things for profit. Most do such things just for the sake of hacking the system. They are "computer mountian climbers".
 

mkt

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Originally posted by Woody13
Yes, I agree. However the average WDW security person is not going to have expert computer knowledge. You know as well as I that some people wouldn't know a laptop if it hit them in the head while others might. I think your last statement is the key. While you and I don't desire such access, there are some people that would spend the time to hack into the system. Some do such things for profit. Most do such things just for the sake of hacking the system. They are "computer mountian climbers".

That's not the point. Had they provided me with a reason for my to put my laptop away, ie. a Rule I broke, a Law I broke, then I would have gladly put it away, and gone to Celebration (my #2 place) to continue my work. But no... they didn't give me a reason. They gave my a consequence for my action, but not a reason why my action was wrong.

off topic, last I checked, there is no written rule within Disney prohibiting the use of laptops, and no law in Florida lawbooks either. Hell.. wardriving is legal in the state of Florida, if I were so inclined (which again, I have nothing to gain from this... I use my cellphone for wireless internet).

I did nothing wrong, and Disney security reacted with nothing more than a display of force... which is exactly what I expect from them. When they at least have their security guards state certified, then I may begin taking them seriously.
 

Testtrack321

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Plus PAL Mickey probably uses 2.4ghz frequency, not 802.11a/b/g. Plus, Disney has security out the wazzo. Sure, a laptop does raise questions, and yes, given time and energy, you can hack anything.
 

X2CommNavISTC

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Quick thread drift.

TT321, your avatar, is that the Blue Men Group? Sure looks like the istruments they use. Saw them one time when they were here at Disney, funny as hell.
 

Woody13

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Originally posted by Testtrack321
Plus PAL Mickey probably uses 2.4ghz frequency, not 802.11a/b/g. Plus, Disney has security out the wazzo. Sure, a laptop does raise questions, and yes, given time and energy, you can hack anything.

I would guess they use 5.8 ghz or higher. Too many cordless phones use 2.4 ghz. Laptops can be set up to work on any frequency you might desire. It would be very foolish for WDW to make a rule to ban computers within the parks. PDA's, cell phones and other computer devices are very common. As you point out, laptops do raise certain questions.
 

Testtrack321

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Originally posted by X2CommNavISTC
Quick thread drift.

TT321, your avatar, is that the Blue Men Group? Sure looks like the istruments they use. Saw them one time when they were here at Disney, funny as hell.

Yep, that's them. They're my fav band. When did they come to Disney? I thought they went to Universal HardRock? :)
 

X2CommNavISTC

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They were here like aeons before they were on the Dell (I believe it was Dell) TV ads. I know it was before they were on TV though, maybe by like three months.
 

Figment1986

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Originally posted by X2CommNavISTC
They were here like aeons before they were on the Dell (I believe it was Dell) TV ads. I know it was before they were on TV though, maybe by like three months.

Former band teacher's brother was the blueman who got married on nation TV. (we still have a few things that he left like i think a pair of tinnors painted red.)

They were on the Pentium comericals.
(and Drew Cary show to.)

They Rock.. (never seen then in persion, but saw a Video of them, curtisy of band directors brother.. Vegas show is great)

Thread drift over...
 

Testtrack321

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Wow, tha's cool man. Go to bluemanfans.com, it has tons of videos that you might want to check out. Go see them. They have a rock tour now, you should go see it.
 

Figment1986

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Originally posted by Testtrack321
Wow, tha's cool man. Go to bluemanfans.com, it has tons of videos that you might want to check out. Go see them. They have a rock tour now, you should go see it.

Problem is that they already cane and my mom could not get tickeyts and the orlando one was too far for a school day the next day...

(oh and the man who droped the ring on the Thats my wedding live, with anthony parrulli. he is my former band teacher, He got replaced by dsomeone who is more stressing)
 

mkt

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Originally posted by Bagheera
Ah but then that would cost MONEY, wouldn't it? ;)

yeah.. so would criminal background checks...

or checking references...

oops.. did I say too much again? :drevil:
 

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