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Imagineerland

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I have a site layout proposal to get thoughts about. I quickly bubble diagrammed a possible layout and I think it works really well.

The location:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/34°01'50.2"S+151°09'27.1"E/@-34.0306111,151.1554351,726m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d-34.0306186!4d151.1575372

This is about 35 minutes south of downtown, the same distance that Disneyland Paris is from downtown Paris, and is relatively close to the airport.

So finding a large parcel of land near downtown Sydney, or frankly any modern major downtown, is basically impossible, so I had to bend the rules to allow myself this land because it is actually a nature preserve. But to me, a nature preserve is better than a national landmark park, which was the previous selected site. To find real available land, we would have to go over an hour to the west of the city and loose the ocean.

The site perimeter I drew would require about half new land in the ocean, like many of the other resorts have done. But it is basically the same area as the Tokyo Resort.

Advantages:
Hotels and transit isolated down by the main road to keep north resort road free.
Ability of the Retail zone to open with a phase 1 to lead to first park, and a phase 2 to lead to second park.
Service core in the back corner between the two parks, isolated from public zones.

Disadvantages:
Only space for a few hotels, but I think limiting the scope is actually a good idea, especially since were so far out from downtown.
I don't think the cruise port idea can work in this site. But really that should be downtown. Maybe a secondary Cruise terminal/entertainment center in the city center?
 

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Disney Dad 3000

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I have a site layout proposal to get thoughts about. I quickly bubble diagrammed a possible layout and I think it works really well.

The location:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/34°01'50.2"S+151°09'27.1"E/@-34.0306111,151.1554351,726m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d-34.0306186!4d151.1575372

This is about 35 minutes south of downtown, the same distance that Disneyland Paris is from downtown Paris, and is relatively close to the airport.

So finding a large parcel of land near downtown Sydney, or frankly any modern major downtown, is basically impossible, so I had to bend the rules to allow myself this land because it is actually a nature preserve. But to me, a nature preserve is better than a national landmark park, which was the previous selected site. To find real available land, we would have to go over an hour to the west of the city and loose the ocean.

The site perimeter I drew would require about half new land in the ocean, like many of the other resorts have done. But it is basically the same area as the Tokyo Resort.

Advantages:
Hotels and transit isolated down by the main road to keep north resort road free.
Ability of the Retail zone to open with a phase 1 to lead to first park, and a phase 2 to lead to second park.
Service core in the back corner between the two parks, isolated from public zones.

Disadvantages:
Only space for a few hotels, but I think limiting the scope is actually a good idea, especially since were so far out from downtown.
I don't think the cruise port idea can work in this site. But really that should be downtown. Maybe a secondary Cruise terminal/entertainment center in the city center?

Excited to see what you do with this. I like that it appears to have decent access to the airport.
Any idea of the scale of the port botany boat ramp? Just curious. Since the resort scale may be limited which may be good as you noted, curious about arranging for water transportation to and from airport for resort guests only.

Plus it's almost on Captain Hook dr (really cook but that's a sign I think)
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
I have a site layout proposal to get thoughts about. I quickly bubble diagrammed a possible layout and I think it works really well.

The location:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/34°01'50.2"S+151°09'27.1"E/@-34.0306111,151.1554351,726m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d-34.0306186!4d151.1575372

This is about 35 minutes south of downtown, the same distance that Disneyland Paris is from downtown Paris, and is relatively close to the airport.

So finding a large parcel of land near downtown Sydney, or frankly any modern major downtown, is basically impossible, so I had to bend the rules to allow myself this land because it is actually a nature preserve. But to me, a nature preserve is better than a national landmark park, which was the previous selected site. To find real available land, we would have to go over an hour to the west of the city and loose the ocean.

The site perimeter I drew would require about half new land in the ocean, like many of the other resorts have done. But it is basically the same area as the Tokyo Resort.

Advantages:
Hotels and transit isolated down by the main road to keep north resort road free.
Ability of the Retail zone to open with a phase 1 to lead to first park, and a phase 2 to lead to second park.
Service core in the back corner between the two parks, isolated from public zones.

Disadvantages:
Only space for a few hotels, but I think limiting the scope is actually a good idea, especially since were so far out from downtown.
I don't think the cruise port idea can work in this site. But really that should be downtown. Maybe a secondary Cruise terminal/entertainment center in the city center?
For the disadvantages I wouldn't worry -- I'd definitely be in favor of a cruise terminal for the city center. And in terms of hotels, perhaps a high-rise or two in order to save land, plus I remember discussing with a few people having 'good-neighbor' hotels which could be built off property but have transportation to the resort, and be held to Disney resort standards.

Very much like this location!
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
@Angels and Disney's here's the Princess and the Frog attraction

@OvertheHorizon for some reason your wonderful art pieces aren't showing up anymore -- just wondering what happen to those.

Team Baby Groot Presents:
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Attraction Layout
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Princess and the Frog: Escape From The Other Side will be placed in between Pirates of the Caribbean and The Haunted Mansion, in the backstage area behind the New Orleans Square Station. From research and scouting, the attraction is able to be assembled around major backstage areas, with little renovation necessary. The modifications to the area include a new ramp pathway underneath the Disneyland Railroad extended from New Orleans Square proper. The second major refurbishment was to the service roads behind the show buildings, with re-routed lanes, and a slight change to the Outdoor Vending building. According to a source on our team, cast member buildings can and have been moved with ease for expansion. Even so, this project limits the amount of work that needs to be done to those cast member areas, cutting down construction costs as a result.

Backstage Unit
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From observation of aerial photos, Team Baby Groot noticed what seems to be an air-conditioning plant, or some other mechanical unit, directly behind New Orleans Square Station. Given the expensive cost that would be needed for its removal and replacement, Baby Groot decided that the best option to build a C-Ticket, would be to have the attraction go around this unit. As seen in the model, service road access will still be available, as small roads are built for backstage crews to navigate around the attraction show building.

Service Roads
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The show building's footprint will be smaller than its neighbors Pirates of the Caribbean and The Haunted Mansion. Its location nevertheless requires some re-routing of service roads. The roads will be extended around the show building, and reattach on each side to allow access throughout. The Outdoor Vending building will require slight modification to support the show building, however the structure will remain in place. An auxiliary vending location will be used to house any area of the original building affected, which would be placed along the new service roads.

Facade and Entrance
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From the new pathway, guests will travel underneath the railroad tracks, similar to the transition to Mickey's Toontown. However in this instance, there will be no transition and instead a continuation of the facades that populate New Orleans Square proper. The outside of the attraction will look similar to the film's interpretation of old New Orleans, which blends in with the architecture of the area. Trees, lamp-posts, and benches encompass the attraction plaza, where guests can enter the queue. This is also where guests will exit the attraction and walk back to the rest of New Orleans Square.

Queue
Upon entering the attraction, the queue you wait in to board the ride vehicles is painted in bright orange, yellows, and reds. The paintings are representative of the sequence in the film "Almost There" where Tiana dreams of her own restaurant, Tiana's Place. The queue itself is a straight pathway until a switchback section before the loading area. Along the straight pathway, guests will be able to play interactive games on monitors on the painted walls that blend in with the surroundings on both sides of the line. The monitors allow the guests to play and sing-along with Tiana in her dream. The first station is a motion-based sweeping game, where the first person to clean the floor of dust out of the group at the monitor, wins the game.
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The second station is a frosting game, where you have to aim the frosting and land them on the cakes like she does in her dream.
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In the final interactive station, guests pop bottles of champagne and pour the beverage into glasses below, and the player who fills the most glasses wins. All of these games are played with Tiana singing "Almost There" in the background, mixed with an instrumental version of the same song.

When you approach the switch-back portion of the queue, near where guests board the ride vehicles, guests are introduced in the corner to a newspaper stand that says Prince Naveen has arrived. Turning towards the ride vehicles, guests see Dr. Facilier greeting the Prince and inviting him into his voodoo shop. On the voodoo shop street, guests board the trolley and begin the adventure.

Ride Vehicle Concept Art
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Ride Vehicle Description:

As much as transportation is a means to get from point A to point B, the modes of transportation often become part of the fabric of the community. Such is the case with the New Orleans streetcar that was first introduced to the area through various forms in the 1830's. In keeping with that history and heritage,The Princess and the Frog and New Orleans Square, Journey to the Other Side will utilize a modified streetcar of its own for the rider.

Built by Perley A Thomas Car Works, Inc. in the 1920's and as seen in the film, the ride vehicle will display the classic green color and wood accents. Featuring the same body and roof style, the vehicle will remain open air to allow for full sightlines during the journey. Using the basic rail system used in other C-ticket rides in the park, the 4-seat streetcar will take guests on a comfortable ride through the attraction.

Ride-Through
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Captions for Flip-Book Art

Ride Vehicle – The ride vehicle echoes the classic New Orleans streetcar.
Load/Voodoo Shop – The evil Dr. Facilier and his “Other Worldly” friends.
Friends on the Other Side – Dr. Facilier turns Prince Naveen into a frog while the “shadow beasts” loom nearby.
Forest Transition – After kissing the frog and becoming one herself, Tiana and Naveen run away to the forest.
When I'm Human – Tiana, Naveen and their new friend, Louis, the alligator, celebrate what it will mean to be human.
Mama Odie – Tiana and Naveen seek help from the folk magic priestess to undo the spell that turned them into frogs.
Going Down the Bayou – Ray and thousands of his firefly friends escort Tiana and Naveen back to New Orleans.
Paddleboat – Tiana and Naveen grow closer and he pledges to help her do anything to get her restaurant.
Cemetery – Tiana confronts Dr. Facilier in the shadows of a New Orleans cemetery.
Mardi Gras Transformation – After being wed by Mama Odie, the two frogs kiss and are transformed into humans.
Tiana's Palace – The culmination of Tiana’s dream of owning a restaurant.

Ride-Through Animation


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Ride-Through Description (Scene by Scene)

-Before loading Sequence-
As guests near the end of the queue and approach the loading area, they will leave the house and see Dr. Facilier talking to Naveen. Dr. Facilier says, “It’s the green you need? I've got exactly what you want to be, come down and visit my shop, I can show you what happens on the other side." After this, guests proceed to the loading area and get ready to board the ride.


Voodoo Shop Scene
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Transitioning from the loading area, guests will get a chill down their spine as they turn the corner and the lights darken entering the attraction. Here they are welcomed by Dr. Facilier to go through a large Mardi Gras mask and into their future. Whispers of the music, "Friends on the Other Side" can be heard in the background. While going further into the mouth of the mask, Dr. Facilier’s shadow can be seen changing into a snake, and then back into its original state. After fully turning the corner, guests can look to see Naveen transforming into a frog, with the blood locket filling up red as they pass by. While leaving , "You got what you wanted, but you lost what you had.” plays ominously all around them with shadows lurking to the left and right.

Forest Transition Scene
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Guest are entered into the next scene in a bedroom, Left and right are old books and Lottie's dresses and bedroom from the ball. Guest see Tiana lean in for a kiss with Naveen as a frog, and right before guest eyes Tiana and Naveen are now both frogs!Once this happens, guest hear noises of wind and can look all around to see the shadows lurking amongst Tiana and Naveen. Once this happens Tiana shouts,"C'mon!This way through the bayou!". Once this happens, much like in the attraction "Snow Whites Scary Adventures", the vehicle swerves around many different trees or vines, until finally they entire the next scene: the bayou.

When We're Human Scene
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Going further into the bayou in this scene, guests are surprised by Louis the gator. Popping up in front of them, he greets them, "Come on and travel down with us. We're becoming human!” The ride then turns the corner to see Louis on water, while Tiana and Naveen are floating with him, and music in the background plays "When We're Human". Glow lights flicker as there is a spotlight shown on Tiana and Naveen, taking their place as being determined to become human again. After this, guests can see Louis, Tiana, and Naveen float down the bayou as the vehicles turn a corner to enter the upcoming scene.

Mama Odie Tree Scene
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As guest enter the next scene, guest turn a corner and see the shadows, although haven't been seen in some time, are still following Tiana and Naveen. Once the shadows are close, guest turn another corner as they see Mama Odie destroying the shadows. Making another turn, guest can see Mama Odies lit up boathouse in the background, as the scene lights up and guest can hear soft music in the next turn. Once in the upcoming turn, guest are inside Mama Odies boathouse as she sings "Dig a Little Deeper". While this happens, pink spoonbills are surrounding the area, dancing and singing along. Bright, beautiful multi-colored bottle lights come in as a disco ball. At the end of the scene, Mama Odie knows that Tiana and Naveen are informed what they have to do to become human. Mama Odie tells Ray, "They know what they need on the inside-lead them back to New Orleans!". As this happens, the lights darken as guests head into the next scene.

Going Down the Bayou Scene
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The “Going Down the Bayou” segment of our ride is represented by a big bend in the river, where bald cypress trees stand in relief against a darkened sky and Spanish moss hangs next to the trolley. Using fiber optic technology, thousands of fireflies glow against the sky, while LED technology allows us to depict larger “lightning bugs” closer to the vehicle, including the Cajun character of Ray. We round a curve and spot Tiana and Naveen sitting on a log as they join in singing as the fireflies escort them back to New Orleans.

Paddleboat Scene
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Guest are brought into a romantic, beautiful scene with Tiana and Naveen. The scene shows the paddle boat, and in the background can be seen that it is night, and the table Naveen set up for their dinner can be shown in the back. As Naveen and Tiana lean in for a kiss, guest see them back away from each other instead, with Naveen saying, "Tiana, I will do anything to help you get your restaurant." As guest leave the scene, a shadow can now be shown being as Tiana and Naveen, getting ready to take control. While this is(almost) happening, guest enter the next scene.

-Transition Scene-
While guest are going from one scene to the next, the atmosphere is dark and gloomy. Though it only last for a few short seconds, guest can hear in the background Ray shouting, "Cher!They got Naveen!"


Cemetery Scene
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We approach the cemetery scene, where the famed St. Louis Cathedral forms a backdrop as ominous crypts stand in relief at the foreground. Adding to the sense of foreboding, fog rises from behind the mausoleums and dark shadows dart through the cemetery. After fully turning into the scene, we see Tiana confronting Dr. Facilier. Tiana is presented in 3-D, standing in front of a large video screen depicting Facilier. As she brandishes the blood locket, a giant Mardi Gras mask appears on the screen and sucks the silhouette of Facilier into its mouth.

Mardi Gras Scene
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Back in New Orleans and following Tiana’s defeat of the evil Dr. Facilier, we see a swirl of colorful confetti as Louis leads a celebratory Mardi Gras parade. Our favorite alligator plays traditional jazz on his trumpet. We see Mama Odie performing Tiana and Naveen’s marriage ceremony. Once the Frog Prince kisses his new Princess the spell is finally broken. Using a Pepper’s Ghost effect, riders see their transformation from frogs to human.

Tiana's Place Scene
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As our New Orleans-style trolley wraps up its “Escape From the Other Side” journey, guests see Tiana’s Palace standing in relief against a nighttime sky. Twinkling lights outline the building, and the windows glow. We realize that Tiana has achieved the fulfillment of a dream that began with her father of finally having a restaurant. In the sky beyond two stars shine brightly overhead. One of them is Evangeline and the other is Ray. Surrounding the stars, once again using fiber optic technology, light from a thousand fireflies forms a heart shape around the two stars. As we make the final turn and prepare to unload, we see full-sized images of Princess Tiana and Prince Naveen dancing.

Concluding Remarks:

And that’s a wrap on our “C”-Ticket ride for Disneyland. Choosing The Princess and the Frog as our IP-inspiration provided the feel of a classic Disney story, with the transformative power of kissing (such as Snow White), but with a twist. It is a story that will appeal to princesses of all ages, while the “Escape From the Other Side” aspects of our story will encourage a few young pirates to jump aboard.

Team Baby Groot had the option of placing its ride in Disney’s California Adventure, but we wanted this project to be in “Walt’s Park.” Available space in New Orleans Square made for an ideal location for this new ride, and was what prompted us to select a streetcar as our ride vehicle. The beautiful imagery of the film combined with catchy music that would appeal to a contemporary audience added to our muse and produced a musical tour enhanced by the sights and sounds of New Orleans, the bayou, and the engaging story of how love triumphs over evil and that dreams really can come true.
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