Yes...the real chills come later.Agreed our primary focus should be on the park above. Park #2 can come later.
Yes...the real chills come later.Agreed our primary focus should be on the park above. Park #2 can come later.
The Disneyland Paris 25th Anniversary Grand Celebration actually had songs that expressed the general story and feeling of each land extremely well.
There's a lot of inspiration we could take theme and story wise in the songs. My personal favorite is the Fantasyland number. It catches those feelings of what makes a well done Fantasyland so perfectly.
Been thinking about some kind of overarching story or theme for our Critter Country, for our Splash Mountain, and what sense (if any) it makes to do an Australian Splash...
As has been said, Splash is steeped in Americana, in the tales of Uncle Remus. Outside of the US parks (and Tokyo, where Americana is still a peculiar draw), there is less appeal for something like this. What we would need is the Australian equivalent of Uncle Remus.
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Australian Legendary Tales by K. Parker might be that! This is a collection of 31 tales from Aboriginal folklore, as retold by a Victorian era Australian lady. (So fair warning, there seems to be the same racial controversy here as with Song of the South, though it's likely Parker was quite progressive for her time.).
These are like myths involving sentient animals, which do indeed sound similar to Brer Rabbit. I've yet to find a synopsis for specific tales, to see if anything would specifically fit the Splash type narrative, but something like this just might do for Australian park guests what Critter Country MK does for the US South. Thoughts?
I'll also add these ideas don't mesh well together except maybe Wildlife/Animal Conservation -- so when deciding I wouldn't bank on the old "bit of both" answers that combine these ideas togetherJust some more thoughts
@D Hindley that's a really inventive idea. My hesitation for it would be that the music is a vital part to Splash Mountain which we would lose with this concept which if it's similar enough to Splash we might as well have Splash haha. But we should still keep it on the table I think.
The real question is - what is the focus of the land?
Do we want it to be Australian "Disney-centric" -- meaning Rescuers Down Under, Australian Splash Mountain
Do we want it to be Australian culturally centric -- original ideas, Australian Folklore
Australian Wildlife Focused -- Finding Nemo, outdoors themes.
Animal Conservation -- more akin to Kilamonjaro Safari of the Outback.
Or do we want a traditional Americana Critter Country -- which opens the door up to a regular Splash Mountain, Country Bears, etc.
This will shape the direction we would go in
Looks perfect!@mickeyfan5534 @Brer Oswald @kmbmw777
Anything you would add/change to the cumulative draft and the map?
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/club-32-sydney-disneyland-cumulative-draft.926539/
Fantasia Gardens - Fantasia themed version of Main Street U.S.A.
Pacific Wharf - 1905 San Francisco
Frontierland - Americana West based on National Parks and the frontier
Critter Country - Australian based Critters from the Outback
Adventureland - Fantasy version of adventure, tropics, pirates, and more
Fantasyland - The land of enchantment and storytelling
Villains Land - possibly renamed, home of all Disney Villains
Tomorrowland - based on Tomorrowland 2055.
That's why I suggested moving Splash to the second park, or just doing a traditional Critter Country.It really depends on how passionate we are about it.
Like we've had Splash on the docket for a few months now, but if we are going in the Splash Mountain direction -- what are the details?
This is all we have so far...
I drew up a rough sketch of the area.
And a concept art piece
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I know Red met Joe Rohde -- and asked him if he had tips on how to approach imagineering projects. (So technically Joe Rohde's philosophies are now involved in this project)
He had mentioned that -- the story comes first. What is the story of Critter Country? What are we trying to tell?
If we just go by attractions because we think they are cool, then the story will suffer and be disjointed. Thinking on it...changing Splash to Australian is like changing Tower of Terror to Guardians of the Galaxy. That's not saying it can't be done and be good (because I'm open to the idea) but it has to fit the overall story. Otherwise we are just shoehorning it in so that we have Splash Mountain.
So -- I guess this opens up the thought process....
What does an Australian Splash Mountain do for the story of Critter Country? And in the same breath -- what would Finding Nemo do for it.
Brer- nobody should be leaving just because of one idea. Nothing is finalized yet.
I thought we all knew you met ear keychain? I kid, Joe Rhode is a great imagineer!Shhh Nobody knew that yet
We could have some of these themes at one park, and have the others at another park.Just some more thoughts
@D Hindley that's a really inventive idea. My hesitation for it would be that the music is a vital part to Splash Mountain which we would lose with this concept which if it's similar enough to Splash we might as well have Splash haha. But we should still keep it on the table I think.
The real question is - what is the focus of the land?
Do we want it to be Australian "Disney-centric" -- meaning Rescuers Down Under, Australian Splash Mountain
Do we want it to be Australian culturally centric -- original ideas, Australian Folklore
Australian Wildlife Focused -- Finding Nemo, outdoors themes.
Animal Conservation -- more akin to Kilamonjaro Safari of the Outback.
Or do we want a traditional Americana Critter Country -- which opens the door up to a regular Splash Mountain, Country Bears, etc.
This will shape the direction we would go in
Figment agrees with this. Theres one story she remembers about a frog that sucked up all the water and the animals had to make him laugh to let out all of the water.Been thinking about some kind of overarching story or theme for our Critter Country, for our Splash Mountain, and what sense (if any) it makes to do an Australian Splash...
As has been said, Splash is steeped in Americana, in the tales of Uncle Remus. Outside of the US parks (and Tokyo, where Americana is still a peculiar draw), there is less appeal for something like this. What we would need is the Australian equivalent of Uncle Remus.
View attachment 204121
Australian Legendary Tales by K. Parker might be that! This is a collection of 31 tales from Aboriginal folklore, as retold by a Victorian era Australian lady. (So fair warning, there seems to be the same racial controversy here as with Song of the South, though it's likely Parker was quite progressive for her time.).
These are like myths involving sentient animals, which do indeed sound similar to Brer Rabbit. I've yet to find a synopsis for specific tales, to see if anything would specifically fit the Splash type narrative, but something like this just might do for Australian park guests what Critter Country MK does for the US South. Thoughts?
That's why I suggested moving Splash to the second park, or just doing a traditional Critter Country.
I'm just going to throw what Space said back out there again. Half of Splash's charm comes from its music. You can't do that with on original IP, at least not to the same effect (the days of pirates and Mansion are long over). The other half comes from the characterization of past Disney animators, and just how impeccably entertaining it is.
Slightly unsure about the feasibility of this attraction. In this day and age I find it hard to imagine Disney green-lighting an attraction with even a hint of past racial controversy.Been thinking about some kind of overarching story or theme for our Critter Country, for our Splash Mountain, and what sense (if any) it makes to do an Australian Splash...
As has been said, Splash is steeped in Americana, in the tales of Uncle Remus. Outside of the US parks (and Tokyo, where Americana is still a peculiar draw), there is less appeal for something like this. What we would need is the Australian equivalent of Uncle Remus.
View attachment 204121
Australian Legendary Tales by K. Parker might be that! This is a collection of 31 tales from Aboriginal folklore, as retold by a Victorian era Australian lady. (So fair warning, there seems to be the same racial controversy here as with Song of the South, though it's likely Parker was quite progressive for her time.).
These are like myths involving sentient animals, which do indeed sound similar to Brer Rabbit. I've yet to find a synopsis for specific tales, to see if anything would specifically fit the Splash type narrative, but something like this just might do for Australian park guests what Critter Country MK does for the US South. Thoughts?
The music is what makes Splash a timeless classic for me -- it's so steeped in Disney culture nowI'm just going to throw what Space said back out there again. Half of Splash's charm comes from its music. You can't do that with on original IP, at least not to the same effect (the days of pirates and Mansion are long over). The other half comes from the characterization of past Disney animators, and just how impeccably entertaining it is.
My vote would be traditional Critter Country. We might be over-thinking it.Just some more thoughts
@D Hindley that's a really inventive idea. My hesitation for it would be that the music is a vital part to Splash Mountain which we would lose with this concept which if it's similar enough to Splash we might as well have Splash haha. But we should still keep it on the table I think.
The real question is - what is the focus of the land?
Do we want it to be Australian "Disney-centric" -- meaning Rescuers Down Under, Australian Splash Mountain
Do we want it to be Australian culturally centric -- original ideas, Australian Folklore
Australian Wildlife Focused -- Finding Nemo, outdoors themes.
Animal Conservation -- more akin to Kilamonjaro Safari of the Outback.
Or do we want a traditional Americana Critter Country -- which opens the door up to a regular Splash Mountain, Country Bears, etc.
This will shape the direction we would go in
Hong Kong did a... unique Stitch event a while back.
There's something in there for a somewhat interesting hub show similar to MiSiCi
Maybe something along the lines of the old Midsummer's Night Panic at Tokyo Disneyland for a stage show.
Maybe some Moana in the entertainment. A fun parade would cinch the event into a whole.
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