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D Hulk

D Hulk

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mickeyfan5534 said:
I'm going with Brer Oswald here. I'd rather do an Australian Splash Mountain or traditional Splash Mountain and save Nemo for the 2nd gate.
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Add me to those who thinks Nemo would be better served in the 2nd gate where it doesn't have to cannibalize a classic attraction Mission: Breakout style. I like our Australian Splash on an island, and I like saving a Nemo version of TDS's Mermaid Lagoon for gate 2.
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

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Critter Country seems to be the land we are most stuck on.

My opinion -- just throw out every attraction and focus on the story. We keep toying with what attractions would fit and which wouldn't but we've barely touched on the actual "story"

If Critter Country (maybe even a different name) is Australian themed -- realistically speaking we shouldn't throw Finding Nemo out given the location.

So let's focus on the story first.
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

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Just continuing with the brainstorming...

Critter Country represents the Americana version of the south ("country") but the description doesn't have much to do with Australia.

Down Under, The Outback, Coral Sea (if Finding Nemo is used)

Those would be more accurate descriptions of the land...something Australian-centric if that is the direction we are taking the land...it wouldn't make much sense to leave it with an Americana name.
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

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spacemt354 said:
Just continuing with the brainstorming...

Critter Country represents the Americana version of the south ("country") but the description doesn't have much to do with Australia.

Down Under, The Outback, Coral Sea (if Finding Nemo is used)

Those would be more accurate descriptions of the land...something Australian-centric if that is the direction we are taking the land...it wouldn't make much sense to leave it with an Americana name.
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Or a combination/inspiration from these territories
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orlando678-

orlando678-

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hmmm we could of course make two areas. One which would really represent Australia in such a way thag Liberty Square does for the US. You could have some different rides here showcasing Australia like a legend of the bunyip ride, an outback jeep ride and something like flight of passage or a hot air balloon simulator. On the other side you could have the Great Barrier Reef with idk uhh Bruce spinner, Hank spinner, Jellyfish jumpers sort of thing and one big ride, perhaps a river raft ride under the water, sounds pretty cool to me
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

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spacemt354 said:
It really depends on how passionate we are about it.

Like we've had Splash on the docket for a few months now, but if we are going in the Splash Mountain direction -- what are the details?

This is all we have so far...

I drew up a rough sketch of the area.


And a concept art piece
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I know Red met Joe Rohde -- and asked him if he had tips on how to approach imagineering projects. (So technically Joe Rohde's philosophies are now involved in this project:joyfull:)

He had mentioned that -- the story comes first. What is the story of Critter Country? What are we trying to tell?

If we just go by attractions because we think they are cool, then the story will suffer and be disjointed. Thinking on it...changing Splash to Australian is like changing Tower of Terror to Guardians of the Galaxy. That's not saying it can't be done and be good (because I'm open to the idea) but it has to fit the overall story. Otherwise we are just shoehorning it in so that we have Splash Mountain.

So -- I guess this opens up the thought process....

What does an Australian Splash Mountain do for the story of Critter Country? And in the same breath -- what would Finding Nemo do for it.

Brer- nobody should be leaving just because of one idea. Nothing is finalized yet.
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I'll also add this same logic can be applied to basically every single land (except for Pacific Wharf and Fantasia Gardens because I think those have been pretty much settled on story)

We can go through each land before next week when Imagineerland is going to have more time to begin on the map -- and make sure there is a cohesive flow to each land.

And if there are attractions that we have on the docket that we have no progress on or interest in...there's no reason to keep them in the park, especially when that'll free up more space for quality content!
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

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spacemt354 said:
I'll also add this same logic can be applied to basically every single land (except for Pacific Wharf and Fantasia Gardens because I think those have been pretty much settled on story)

We can go through each land before next week when Imagineerland is going to have more time to begin on the map -- and make sure there is a cohesive flow to each land.

And if there are attractions that we have on the docket that we have no progress on or interest in...there's no reason to keep them in the park, especially when that'll free up more space for quality content!
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Those attractions can be added on in future expansion Phases.

1 attraction that comes to mind is Peter Pan's Flight. It's been there for months but we have no progress on it other than it's an E-ticket. If say...that attraction was pushed to Phase 2, just briefly looking at the map that would free up a ton of space for more Critter Country and a less crowded area by Adventureland.

Just as an example -- not saying it's going away but that's what we can talk about.
 
MonorailRed

MonorailRed

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spacemt354 said:
Thinking on it...changing Splash to Australian is like changing Tower of Terror to Guardians of the Galaxy. That's not saying it can't be done and be good (because I'm open to the idea) but it has to fit the overall story. Otherwise we are just shoehorning it in so that we have Splash Mountain.

So -- I guess this opens up the thought process....

What does an Australian Splash Mountain do for the story of Critter Country? And in the same breath -- what would Finding Nemo do for it.

Brer- nobody should be leaving just because of one idea. Nothing is finalized yet.
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I think this is what worries me... Splash feeling shoehorned rather than natural.

I feel like Zip-A-Dee-Do-Dah should fit in somewhere regardless....It's a Disney classic.

Maybe... What if instead of having Splash a "Mountain", keeping it more to it's roots of inspiration? What if Australian Splash IS our America Sings/CBJ type attraction? o_O


Another reason I'm pushing this is the last time Splash was added to a park was 1992 in Magic Kingdom (The day after Tokyo's came out :p)

Do not get me wrong on this everyone: Splash is a classic attraction and I absolutely love the storyline.

But I really don't know if shoehorning a Kangaroo in Splash makes it Australian.... It's kinda like saying I'll make Pirates of the Caribbean in DLRP French by putting french poodles in the attraction in sub for the Dog with the keys. o_O

If we find a way to make it feel more natural, I'm all for it.

D Hindley said:
Add me to those who thinks Nemo would be better served in the 2nd gate where it doesn't have to cannibalize a classic attraction Mission: Breakout style. I like our Australian Splash on an island, and I like saving a Nemo version of TDS's Mermaid Lagoon for gate 2.
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Comparing it as putting in Nemo show scene in Chickapin Hill was a bad example on my part.....

Think.... the Geyser Mountain Concept and Tower of Terror.... Two totally different attractions, and yet.... They both use the same system.
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

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MonorailRed said:
I think this is what worries me... Splash feeling shoehorned rather than natural.

I feel like Zip-A-Dee-Do-Dah should fit in somewhere regardless....It's a Disney classic.

Maybe... What if instead of having Splash a "Mountain", keeping it more to it's roots of inspiration? What if Australian Splash IS our America Sings/CBJ type attraction? o_O


Another reason I'm pushing this is the last time Splash was added to a park was 1992 in Magic Kingdom (The day after Tokyo's came out :p)

Do not get me wrong on this everyone: Splash is a classic attraction and I absolutely love the storyline.

But I really don't know if shoehorning a Kangaroo in Splash makes it Australian.... It's kinda like saying I'll make Pirates of the Caribbean in Paris French by putting french poodles in the attraction in sub for the Dog with the keys :hilarious:

If we find a way to make it feel more natural, I'm all for it.



Comparing it as putting in Nemo show scene in Chickapin Hill was a bad example on my part.....

Think.... the Geyser Mountain Concept and Tower of Terror.... Two totally different attractions, and yet.... They both use the same system.
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I understood what you meant. Buzz Lightyear and Haunted Mansion use the same ride tech, but they are two different experiences. It was just a Finding Nemo flume ride like Splash is how I read your idea. Not adding Nemo to splash lol

This is why it's good to talk about it! I don't really have the answer right now -- but that's why we work as a team because someone will come up with the solution and we go from there!
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

Chili's
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MonorailRed said:
I think this is what worries me... Splash feeling shoehorned rather than natural.

I feel like Zip-A-Dee-Do-Dah should fit in somewhere regardless....It's a Disney classic.

Maybe... What if instead of having Splash a "Mountain", keeping it more to it's roots of inspiration? What if Australian Splash IS our America Sings/CBJ type attraction? o_O


Another reason I'm pushing this is the last time Splash was added to a park was 1992 in Magic Kingdom (The day after Tokyo's came out :p)

Do not get me wrong on this everyone: Splash is a classic attraction and I absolutely love the storyline.

But I really don't know if shoehorning a Kangaroo in Splash makes it Australian.... It's kinda like saying I'll make Pirates of the Caribbean in DLRP French by putting french poodles in the attraction in sub for the Dog with the keys. o_O

If we find a way to make it feel more natural, I'm all for it.



Comparing it as putting in Nemo show scene in Chickapin Hill was a bad example on my part.....

Think.... the Geyser Mountain Concept and Tower of Terror.... Two totally different attractions, and yet.... They both use the same system.
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Nah thinking about it - just adding a Brer Kangaroo to Splash doesn't make Splash Australian...it sounded good at first, but unless there's a completely different story that we all like, then it will feel forced to be Australian. Still open to it -- but not as sold as I was a few days ago.
 
mickeyfan5534

mickeyfan5534

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spacemt354 said:
I'll also add this same logic can be applied to basically every single land (except for Pacific Wharf and Fantasia Gardens because I think those have been pretty much settled on story)

We can go through each land before next week when Imagineerland is going to have more time to begin on the map -- and make sure there is a cohesive flow to each land.

And if there are attractions that we have on the docket that we have no progress on or interest in...there's no reason to keep them in the park, especially when that'll free up more space for quality content!
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The Disneyland Paris 25th Anniversary Grand Celebration actually had songs that expressed the general story and feeling of each land extremely well.

There's a lot of inspiration we could take theme and story wise in the songs. My personal favorite is the Fantasyland number. It catches those feelings of what makes a well done Fantasyland so perfectly.
 

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