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Jrb1979

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Travel is heavy in and out of MCO. Rentals for vehicles is in high demand also. We make 4-5 online reservations for a car rental prior to flying. When we get to the rental counters at 1st floor look for the shortest line of guests and that's the car we will rent. The cars are a 30 sec walk in the adjacent parking garage.
Travel being heavy in and out of MCO and Disney having low crowds should have red flags everywhere.

There was a time that heavy travel to MCO meant Disney was doing big business. The fact many are flying in Orlando and not visiting the parks is not good.
 

davis_unoxx

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2:30 PM update July 3rd.

I’ll be in the parks July 5th, going to start at animal kingdom then Epcot. Let me know if you guys want me to report on any areas crowd wise to see what it’s like on the ground!
 

Grimley1968

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2:30 PM update July 3rd.

I’ll be in the parks July 5th, going to start at animal kingdom then Epcot. Let me know if you guys want me to report on any areas crowd wise to see what it’s like on the ground!
Pics of areas that are usually bottlenecks help. One that stands out in memory in EPCOT is the area around the Mexico pavilion. AK doesn't have any that bad, from what I can remember.
 

Grimley1968

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2:30 PM update July 3rd.

I’ll be in the parks July 5th, going to start at animal kingdom then Epcot. Let me know if you guys want me to report on any areas crowd wise to see what it’s like on the ground!

Just remembered that in AK, the area between Everest and the Yak and Yeti restaurant is often a little crazy, because of the multiple directions of foot traffic convening in that area. Not as bad as some places in EPCOT and MK, but for AK it's a little hectic there.
 

bmr1591

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2:30 PM update July 3rd.

I’ll be in the parks July 5th, going to start at animal kingdom then Epcot. Let me know if you guys want me to report on any areas crowd wise to see what it’s like on the ground!

In all fairness (and I'm not saying things aren't slower this week), a lot of locals are going to EPCOT tomorrow because of the fireworks only being on the 4th. I'm sure there are many visiting guests that want to do the same.
 

el_super

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But they’re setting travel records in/out of MCO…

People have reported all the parks are slower in Orlando so where are they all going?

Even if you don't want to believe the other parks are slower, they certainly haven't seen massive increases in line with Disney shedding customers, so where are they going?

My geography might be off, but just in case Orlando moved, MCO is still the biggest/cheapest airport within proximity to Port Canaveral right? How is the cruise line business doing?
 

el_super

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people might also pay for that "premium" experience during the day every day if they wouldn't cut entertainment, park hours, and would expand the parks so the crowds are spread out and feel the same as lower crowds in the existing capacity

Sure! I agree. So a party is what, $120 for 5 hours? So a regular day at Magic Kingdom with all the same trappings (entertainment, food, capacity) of a private party should be selling for about $288 right? $288 for one day. What's it currently at now?

And that's why I keep saying the parks are underpriced.
 

GhostHost1000

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Sure! I agree. So a party is what, $120 for 5 hours? So a regular day at Magic Kingdom with all the same trappings (entertainment, food, capacity) of a private party should be selling for about $288 right? $288 for one day. What's it currently at now?

And that's why I keep saying the parks are underpriced.
I'm sure everyone on here feels like it's such a bargain at today's pricing, G+ costs, and hopes they double in price soon 🤦‍♂️
 

Tha Realest

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People have reported all the parks are slower in Orlando so where are they all going?

Other parks. Other non-WDW or UO destinations
Even if you don't want to believe the other parks are slower, they certainly haven't seen massive increases in line with Disney shedding customers, so where are they going?

Elsewhere in Florida, presumably unbothered by both the meteorological and political climates (frequent excuses for drops in attendance).
My geography might be off, but just in case Orlando moved, MCO is still the biggest/cheapest airport within proximity to Port Canaveral right? How is the cruise line business doing?
It’s doing well! Canaveral has half the volume of Miami & Ft Lauderdale
 

el_super

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Other parks. Other non-WDW or UO destinations

Which ones? Which ones have seen a giant increase in crowds and wait times? We should be able to look that up pretty easily.

It’s doing well! Canaveral has half the volume of Miami & Ft Lauderdale

I know Disney's cruise business has been doing quite well, despite all the supposed mismanagement.
 

JenniferS

When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Travel is heavy in and out of MCO. Rentals for vehicles is in high demand also. We make 4-5 online reservations for a car rental prior to flying. When we get to the rental counters at 1st floor look for the shortest line of guests and that's the car we will rent. The cars are a 30 sec walk in the adjacent parking garage.
If you know rentals are in high demand, why would you do that?

Sounds to me like you might also have been the type of guest that used to double, triple, even quadruple stack ADR's too?
One at each park in your name? One at each park in your S/O's? Then figure out day of where you are and what you actually want to eat.
 

Lilofan

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I wasn’t talking about park CMs working cruise CM shifts…I was talking about care for and attention to the guest experience
Care and attention to guest exp, light years ahead of parks and resorts is the DCL cast. If parks and resorts cast can even have 1/2 of the qualities of DCL cast , perhaps more guests would see guest service improving in P&R. .
 

el_super

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if the parks were managed and ran like the cruise line, we probably wouldn’t be seeing as much of a decrease in attendance

Well... why do you think they aren't? It's the same people running it right?

Could it have anything to do with costs being more in line with expectations? Maybe?
 

C33Mom

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I was there the week before Christmas last year up through the 23rd. It was not unusually quiet at all.
We were there too—it was better than the week after Christmas but it was still packed. I stopped taking all the “Disney is failing! Nobody ever goes there” comments on this thread seriously after realizing it’s either a lot of people who don’t visit the parks much hoping that if they keep predicting doom for the parks that Disney will try harder to bring back middle class customers and/or people with miscellaneous grievances lying about attendance trends. I have seen credible insiders say that they are not keeping all the value/moderate resorts running at full capacity and others have reported being offered upsell/upgrades to deluxe, so I do think Disney isn’t pulling in on site guests like they used to, but the parks aren’t desolate like many here want you to believe—Disney just isn’t giving customers enough value for staying at the on site motels.
I was there first weekend in June and it was not quiet at all...huge throngs of people...Long waits for attractions... maybe there are some quieter days? not sure...but everytime they say the place is dead, I go and find it very crowded....
I would love to find it less packed at all hours of the day when we visit next month, but I’m not expecting it to be anything like alarmists describe it here. If Disney keeps admission prices higher, they can afford to provide a more pleasant experience for the people who continue to visit…it’s not as profitable for investors, but it’s not like the parks are in danger of bankruptcy. Still hoping they will roll out a more expensive but more convenient line skip product like Universal has, but it appears they don’t want to do it with current crowds…however, it would be an easy way for Disney to juice revenue quickly if they needed to.
 

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