News Chapek FIRED, Iger New CEO

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
You're missing my point.

There is "work" being done that is actively harming the company. I don't want to fire people and spread that "work" to others, I want to fire people so that "work" stops being done entirely.
What work specifically ? Are there safety issues that are being overlooked to increase profits? Are the think groups whose roles are to maximize profitability harming the company ? I’d say whoever dreamed up the limited 75 guest 24 day trip to visit all parks and other sites on a private jet with chef and doctor , hotel food drink etc for $110K per guest was a winner. All tickets have been pre sold. If Disney can charge that amount and sell out, that’s just the beginning in that category.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I’m packing now
Don’t bother…”uniform” will be supplied:

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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Thats a given, Netflix was the canary in the coal mine and if you think D+ is immune from streaming purge that's about to happen....well....
Except...

Netflix already maxed out all the global markets. They had no new markets to grow into. They need deeper penetration to keep growing, which is a lot harder to do.​
Netflix lost the Pay1 Window of all the big studios except for Sony. You can't see the tentpole films of the other studios on Netflix like one used to. Netflix used to be like HBO like that. But not anymore (or for HBO). Netflix also lost the library of popular TV shows (Friends, Office) for the same reason... film and TV studios have their own streaming service which will be their online library.​
That leaves Netflix only with the new movies/series they buy from independent studios or commission. Now they need to hope to create more Stranger Things and 'event' content. (They also still license other studios' content on a rotating basis, but, that library has significantly been reduced.)​
Netflix now has competition, which they didn't have before. And so, people are deciding which of the streamers to subscribe to, or, which ones to sub for only a month or two and then drop for a while.​
Netflix is offering less than they used to, but still is relatively expensive. Oops.​
In the last quarter in which Netflix lost subs. But D+ gained subs. And so did all the other streamers.​


Disney's streamers are in a much different position.

Obviously, there's an upper limit of people willing to pay for subscriptions. That's why Netflix, D+, and all the other streamers are adding a FAST tier (Free Ad-supported STreaming). That will certainly change the bottom line for Netflix as people who find it too expensive will watch Netflix FAST. But, that will certainly impact the number of paid subs, which makes keeping track of which streamers are growing or shrinking difficult to monitor.
 

Ayla

Well-Known Member
Disney has shown that they don't care if a qualified person takes the helm. Hell thats how they wound up with Chapek. He's nothing more than a marketing guy who knew enough to just keep doing what Bob 1 had been doing....and perhaps keep the seat warm so Bob 1 could return if he got bored with whatever he had been doing.

Best bet for Disney is to split up and spin off the different segments. Let the parks stand on their own and not be the ******* step child ATM which prints money for the rest of the company.
Why is redhead starred out? 😂
 

Basil of Baker Street

Well-Known Member
At least it's outpacing The Good Dinosaur. Not sure it is if you factor in inflation though 🤣.
Unlike Marvel, Pixar can't seem to live on sequels and spinoffs. I'm fatiqued by the Marvels ones. But, box office indicates that I'm in the minority on that. Curious when that fanbase catches on to the manipulation. Happened to Transformers. I think the Jurassic series has hit it peak as well. Saw it this past weekend -- ANYTHING but Top Gun.
You are in the minority but not alone. After the first few Marvel films, they all started to feel the same. The only films that stood out to me was Guardians.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
What work specifically ? Are there safety issues that are being overlooked to increase profits? Are the think groups whose roles are to maximize profitability harming the company ? I’d say whoever dreamed up the limited 75 guest 24 day trip to visit all parks and other sites on a private jet with chef and doctor , hotel food drink etc for $110K per guest was a winner. All tickets have been pre sold. If Disney can charge that amount and sell out, that’s just the beginning in that category.
The problems with The Walt Disney Company in 2022 have very little to do with the DPEP segment, which I know is a hard thing for people on a Parks forum to digest.
 

bryanfze55

Well-Known Member
I disagree. Walt Disney World has plenty to do to keep you busy for a week, which is how long most Americans take vacation. The questions is whether they have enough that people want to do. Many more people will ride Guardians than rode Ellen.
To be fair, it’s only enough to do for a week because it’s spread across four parks…. None of which are an easy hop.

Having the same number of attractions across four parks that Disneyland and Tokyo have across two parks remains asinine… with multi day tickets that cost significantly more, at that.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
To be fair, it’s only enough to do for a week because it’s spread across four parks…. None of which are an easy hop.

Having the same number of attractions across four parks that Disneyland and Tokyo have across two parks remains asinine… with multi day tickets that cost significantly more, at that.
I think wdw parks were conceived and designed more than “ride parks”…notably the far more numerous and superior sit down restaurants…as opposed to Disneyland…

But your point is taken…there should be 15-20 more total attractions in the 4 parks by now. Most of that rot/fail is 2000-2022

I’d settle for 12

This is also the simple, mathematical reason why FP+ and Genie fails
 
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bryanfze55

Well-Known Member
I think wdw parks were conceived and designed more than “ride parks”…notably the far more numerous and superior sit down restaurants…as opposed to Disneyland…

But your point is taken…there should be 15-20 total attractions in the 4 parks by now. Most of that rot/fail is 2000-2022

I’d settle for 12

This is also the simple, mathematical reason why FP+ and Genie fails
It’s personal preference. At a place like Epcot for instance, if you don’t want to blow your money on overpriced table service or “drinking around the world”, it’s easy to feel like you’ve run out of things to do. At California Adventure, though not necessarily a better park, it’s hard to feel that way because you can simply walk across the street to Disneyland when you get bored.

The density benefit is real. I think everything is too far apart at WDW. Once upon a time, I do believe the sprawl would have lent itself nicely to a relaxing resort vacation. But if you’re someone who enjoys rides and attractions foremost, the logistics of getting around the resort due to modern crowd levels make it very difficult to embrace WDW.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
It’s personal preference. At a place like Epcot for instance, if you don’t want to blow your money on overpriced table service or “drinking around the world”, it’s easy to feel like you’ve run out of things to do. At California Adventure, though not necessarily a better park, it’s hard to feel that way because you can simply walk across the street to Disneyland when you get bored.

The density benefit is real. I think everything is too far apart at WDW. Once upon a time, I do believe the sprawl would have lent itself nicely to a relaxing resort vacation. But if you’re someone who enjoys rides and attractions foremost, the logistics of getting around the resort due to modern crowd levels make it very difficult to embrace WDW.

That's only true of the current incarnation of EPCOT, though, not EPCOT as it was originally built.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
It’s personal preference. At a place like Epcot for instance, if you don’t want to blow your money on overpriced table service or “drinking around the world”, it’s easy to feel like you’ve run out of things to do. At California Adventure, though not necessarily a better park, it’s hard to feel that way because you can simply walk across the street to Disneyland when you get bored.

The density benefit is real. I think everything is too far apart at WDW. Once upon a time, I do believe the sprawl would have lent itself nicely to a relaxing resort vacation. But if you’re someone who enjoys rides and attractions foremost, the logistics of getting around the resort due to modern crowd levels make it very difficult to embrace WDW.
…the streets will flow with the blood of the non-believers 😂
 

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