Chapek and D'Amaro continue the tradition of no bonus or Christmas gift for Disney's Cast Members

Minnesota disney fan

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I've got family that are RNs. They love their schedule, 3 day work week 530am-6pm , followed by 4 days off every week. I would prefer that schedule.
Your family members are very lucky and not typical. I am an RN and we all shared the bad hours. There are other RN's working the 6pm to 5am shift and holidays, etc. We rotated holidays too. If you worked Thanksgiving you got Christmas off and vice versa.
So this statement seems to point to ALL RN's have it easy "only working 3 days a week". The working is by educated, dedicated nurses who chose to work as a nurse knowing about the 24 hour 365 care, the working conditions, the training,. It is not an easy job to float thru those 3 days at 12 hour days plus. I worked those 12 hour days in ICU and you could be on your feet 11 1/2 hours a shift caring for critical patients. Granted, some days are "easy", but they are few and far between.
So it just sounded like we all have 3 easy 12 plus hour days and get a whole 4 days off! It's not that easy or simple.
 

Lilofan

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Your family members are very lucky and not typical. I am an RN and we all shared the bad hours. There are other RN's working the 6pm to 5am shift and holidays, etc. We rotated holidays too. If you worked Thanksgiving you got Christmas off and vice versa.
So this statement seems to point to ALL RN's have it easy "only working 3 days a week". The working is by educated, dedicated nurses who chose to work as a nurse knowing about the 24 hour 365 care, the working conditions, the training,. It is not an easy job to float thru those 3 days at 12 hour days plus. I worked those 12 hour days in ICU and you could be on your feet 11 1/2 hours a shift caring for critical patients. Granted, some days are "easy", but they are few and far between.
So it just sounded like we all have 3 easy 12 plus hour days and get a whole 4 days off! It's not that easy or simple.
Good points. I met several nurses taking advantage of their 4 day off weekly. They spent their days off several times a year flying to and enjoying a quick getaway at WDW! Saying it was "easy" was your interpretation and not my words.
 

TikibirdLand

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If you work a typical 8-5pm day, any time after that is your personal time, hence, the company has no say in what you do. "Mandatory" only applies to work hours.
Not sure when that was ever true. If you're on salary, the term typical applies: you will have times where you're asked to come in early or stay late as part of your job. I've been asked to work greater than 80 hours at times. I was well-compensated for it. Later in life, I've put up barbed wire to reign in the number of hours worked each week. The point I'm trying to make is that it's a bonus; it's something you shouldn't count in your regular compensation. If you do, you may be disappointed some day if it's not as large as you expect or have strings attached to it.
 

Lilofan

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Not sure when that was ever true. If you're on salary, the term typical applies: you will have times where you're asked to come in early or stay late as part of your job. I've been asked to work greater than 80 hours at times. I was well-compensated for it. Later in life, I've put up barbed wire to reign in the number of hours worked each week. The point I'm trying to make is that it's a bonus; it's something you shouldn't count in your regular compensation. If you do, you may be disappointed some day if it's not as large as you expect or have strings attached to it.
Salary is salary for some but well compensated. You work until the job is done with little to no sleep. Family did a number of week long trips all day work in CA offices , followed by nightly dinners with clients then caught the redeye Sunday night back to NYC and from the airport went straight into work Monday morning.
 

TP2000

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I am a retired Disney Cast member and I use to receive free tickets and other discounts to use at the parks. For the last two years I have received nothing. I was wondering what happened. It looks like Disney is just getting cheap and does not care about the people who worked there. I still have my lifetime tickets, but since the pandemic I have not visited the parks. Disney seems to have lost its charm.

While I cut them slack in Christmas 2020 for not sending out anything, by Christmas 2021 the world was mostly back to normal (except in California and New York). If you can operate theme parks again for 75,000+ people per day, you can mail out Christmas cards again.

If the tradition had been to send out a Christmas card to theme park retirees, that's not something that should just be stopped entirely without an explanation.

It seems Bob Chapek and Josh Damaro are trying to use the pandemic to cut as much fluff out of the budget as possible, hiding behind the excuse that it was "Not Safe!" to operate a mass mailing project in the fall of 2020.

The execs running the theme park division now simply don't get it. They're clueless and inept.
 

John park hopper

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Your family members are very lucky and not typical. I am an RN and we all shared the bad hours. There are other RN's working the 6pm to 5am shift and holidays, etc. We rotated holidays too. If you worked Thanksgiving you got Christmas off and vice versa.
So this statement seems to point to ALL RN's have it easy "only working 3 days a week". The working is by educated, dedicated nurses who chose to work as a nurse knowing about the 24 hour 365 care, the working conditions, the training,. It is not an easy job to float thru those 3 days at 12 hour days plus. I worked those 12 hour days in ICU and you could be on your feet 11 1/2 hours a shift caring for critical patients. Granted, some days are "easy", but they are few and far between.
So it just sounded like we all have 3 easy 12 plus hour days and get a whole 4 days off! It's not that easy or simple.
My wife is a retired ICU/ER nurse--- what you have posted is 100% true thank god for dedicated nurses.
 

JoeCamel

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My wife is a retired ICU/ER nurse--- what you have posted is 100% true thank god for dedicated nurses.
The shortage of healthcare workers in the assisted living/skilled nursing facilities was in dire shape before covid and is now critical. We need 200K RNs, LPNs, CNAs and support staff for the wave of bodies needing care. Thanks to your wife for her service, my parents were in long term care for a few years and the people there were incredible. Where do you get more incredible people?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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The shortage of healthcare workers in the assisted living/skilled nursing facilities was in dire shape before covid and is now critical. We need 200K RNs, LPNs, CNAs and support staff for the wave of bodies needing care. Thanks to your wife for her service, my parents were in long term care for a few years and the people there were incredible. Where do you get more incredible people?
Would you volunteer for that? A significant portion of the American population have chosen to do things that put pressure on those workers…for about a year.

choice…with no valid reason.

no BS.
 

JoeCamel

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Would you volunteer for that? A significant portion of the American population have chosen to do things that put pressure on those workers…for about a year.

choice…with no valid reason.

no BS.
No, I don't have it in me. The people that do are amazing, the manager of my mom's facility was there many more hours than scheduled and she would bend over backwards to make their (and my) life easier. Incredible dedication and skills.

Short story, my mom worked on a church scholarship committee for years giving 2K grants to local migrant workers for college. She helped hundreds of kids to a better life and when she was in the last phase of hospice care one of the CNAs sat down with me and told me "I wouldn't be here without your mom, I was one of her scholarship students"
She cared for her as she died at 101...

Where do you find these people?
 

Lilofan

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The shortage of healthcare workers in the assisted living/skilled nursing facilities was in dire shape before covid and is now critical. We need 200K RNs, LPNs, CNAs and support staff for the wave of bodies needing care. Thanks to your wife for her service, my parents were in long term care for a few years and the people there were incredible. Where do you get more incredible people?
Immigrant nurses which a number already are here working but we need from all over the world to fill USA openings but there are challenges making that happen.
 

John park hopper

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Immigrant nurses which a number already are here working but we need from all over the world to fill USA openings but there are challenges making that happen.
My thoughts on immigrant nurses is conflicted by yes we need more nurses but those countries they are coming from need them just as badly or more so. We need to train more "competent" nurses and some how make it easier for them to pay for it.
 

TP2000

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My thoughts on immigrant nurses is conflicted by yes we need more nurses but those countries they are coming from need them just as badly or more so. We need to train more "competent" nurses and some how make it easier for them to pay for it.

This country needs more nurses and plumbers and welders and electrical engineers, and we need fewer 25 year olds with $100K in student debt who majored in Communications or Fine Arts or Gender Studies.
 

FettFan

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New Disney Parks Chairman Josh D'Amaro is continuing with the tradition of giving absolutely nothing to the Cast Members for Christmas. In a year when many have been pushed to breaking point and moral is at an all-time low, there is nothing from the company to give any hint of appreciation, unless of course we count this Christmas message from Josh. I'm sure the cast are glad to hear he is proud of them for making the company billions once again.

Welcome to Damaroland.

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FeelsSoGoodToBeBad

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DH's company also has a huge, fancy Christmas party (black tie optional) but it has been canceled the last two years because of covid.
Same at the company my DH works for. When he worked at Scottrade, and they were still relatively small, they had huge Christmas parties and gave out TVs, and all kinds of big-ticket items. As the company got bigger, those parties continued for a while, at least, but the gifts were far smaller until they went away entirely. With his current company, pre-COVID, there were all sorts of company days at local attractions/sporting events plus the annual Christmas party. The first one I went to, I felt horribly underdressed as the invitation said "business casual" -- I'd never seen so many furs in my life! LOL! All those events are currently on hold, afaik. They do still give the employees a link to a website to choose a holiday gift, which he's gotten some really nice stuff from. At this point, we're honestly just grateful for steady employment and 401k's, tbh.
 

Lilofan

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My thoughts on immigrant nurses is conflicted by yes we need more nurses but those countries they are coming from need them just as badly or more so. We need to train more "competent" nurses and some how make it easier for them to pay for it.
RNs working in the Philippines on average earn $250US dollars per month. It is not difficult to figure out why many of them want to work and earn in the USA and USA companies get them to come work here . I know of some Filipino nurses (5) who share a 1 bedroom apt, hot racking , working different shifts at the hospital while at the same time sending money back home to support their families.
 
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Cesar R M

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Aren't they compensated?? Are they not getting paid?
Question: If you were in the Kellog's workers position. Would you accept being forcibly to work mandatory overtime with no additional compensation and being forced to work 7 days a week.
Would you be allright because you're getting "paid" ?

Because the reality is that some jobs carry more weight and more importance. Are you sacrificing when you take a job that is 24/7?? I started my career in an oil refinery, it was shift work and 24/7. Now we did get shift differential but we didn't "sacrifice ". The job was all day, every day.

Yes nurses make more than amusement park workers. They always will, that's not necessarily bad, society puts more stock in some jobs than others. Now I firmly believe every person deserves respect and a safe work environment but no not every position is going to be compensated the same way

But you also got months of vacations or shifts out, right?
 

Cesar R M

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While I cut them slack in Christmas 2020 for not sending out anything, by Christmas 2021 the world was mostly back to normal (except in California and New York). If you can operate theme parks again for 75,000+ people per day, you can mail out Christmas cards again.

If the tradition had been to send out a Christmas card to theme park retirees, that's not something that should just be stopped entirely without an explanation.

It seems Bob Chapek and Josh Damaro are trying to use the pandemic to cut as much fluff out of the budget as possible, hiding behind the excuse that it was "Not Safe!" to operate a mass mailing project in the fall of 2020.

The execs running the theme park division now simply don't get it. They're clueless and inept.
Reminds me of the infamous crazeh of "we're going green, therefore.. no straws!"
When in reality the companies found a perfect way to CUT DOWN COSTS of straws, getting the money of these straws as "cost savings" and bonuses for top brass, and claim they are being "Greener" by PR moves.
Its a win win win except for consumers, specially those with disabilities who needs the straws.

Meanwhile, companies that are actually worried about the pollution of straws.. moved to seed, plant pulp, paper or bamboo straws.
 

TP2000

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Reminds me of the infamous crazeh of "we're going green, therefore.. no straws!"
When in reality the companies found a perfect way to CUT DOWN COSTS of straws, getting the money of these straws as "cost savings" and bonuses for top brass, and claim they are being "Greener" by PR moves.
Its a win win win except for consumers, specially those with disabilities who needs the straws.

Meanwhile, companies that are actually worried about the pollution of straws.. moved to seed, plant pulp, paper or bamboo straws.

Plastic straws are the biggest non-issue for Disney theme parks in the USA.

Neither Orange County, California nor Orange County, Florida have landfills that have any refuse that gets close to an ocean. The trash in both Orange County, California and Orange County, Florida not only stays in the ground for the next 50,000 years, as it decomposes it creates gas that fuels a power plant. So the decaying trash of both counties with massive Disney theme parks in them actually creates electricity that allows Disneyland and Disney World to exist and use megawatts of electricity to light Castles and Matterhorns/Everests and Main Streets.



And yet Burbank pretends that millions of Disneyland and Disney World straws were once being flushed out to the Pacific and Atlantic oceans to get stuck in whale vent holes, which they weren't. But by removing straws from Disneyland and WDW restaurants, Burbank saves a few bucks and gets to pretend it's saving the planet for all the clueless Facebook Planeteers who think the USA is actually the problem when it's really Communist China and the rest of the Third World around the Pacific Rim who is flushing all their trash out into the ocean every year.

Brilliant! Burbank saves money, trendy yet clueless American housewives pat themselves on the back, and Communist China and Guatemala still flushes a lot of trash down their rivers to the ocean! It's a win-win-win! :rolleyes:

 
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