Changes to SSE

[speck76]

LOL

Epcot82guy is right, please define Classic SSE...


SSE wil always be a classic ride, no matter what happens...I think that Siemens means, a good classic POST happening, like there were with AT&T

Keeping the attraction a classic style (omnimover) is one thing.....as opposed to changing the ride system....although I love SSE, I am open to either.

Returning the attraction to the Bell Labs days is another thing.....why bring back an old narration? Why bring back the old theme song?

 

[Epcot82Guy]

I agree that the narration is unnecessary. However, Tomorrow's Child would not be bringing back an old theme song; it would be bringing back a THEME SONG altogether. While the current track is nice, I would highly doubt that any noticeable percentage of guests would recognize it outside of context. As a kid, Tomorrow's Child was one of my favorite Disney songs. We would literally sing that, Veggie Veggie Fruit Fruit, and several others all the way to Disney each year when we would go. Disney has been moving away from these types of theme songs recently (in both rides and films), and I think it shows. That song actually has pretty long-lasting bones, especially the instrumental part. To update and re-record it would be a great way to take into account successful parts of the old with updates and changes for the new. And THAT is progress. Just changing everything and taking no look to the past is CHANGE, and that gets one into trouble.

I am looking forward to the changes because it sounds just like a progression and not a change. Take what works; change what could be better; bring back what worked but was lost.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Keeping the attraction a classic style (omnimover) is one thing.....as opposed to changing the ride system....although I love SSE, I am open to either.

Returning the attraction to the Bell Labs days is another thing.....why bring back an old narration? Why bring back the old theme song?

Using this thought process....why are bell bottoms back in style? Why are classic video games that used to be the size of your television sold today with the software in the joystick? Why do we dig up the old rock bands and put their rickety bodies back on stage? Why do we have remakes of King Kong, and other classic movies? Why, because nastalgia (sp?) gives people a sense of security and ease, thats why.

I pesonally would not mind having Walter back doing the narration. As for the end of the ride, most new technology now is nothing more than miniturization of current technology. Yes, you have cell phones that you can watch movies on, Ipods, hybrid cars, and Coke Zero, but why would you redo the ending when you can throw an Ipod around one of the characters, put a soda can in a scene, and have one of the AA's looking at a cell phone.

 

[MickeyTigg]

With the stated clarifications....maybe the changes might not be bad, thought I'm not sure I'd go with bringing "Uncle Walter" back. I'm not sure that it would be an improvement...I'd have to think about that for a bit.

 

[speck76]

Using this thought process....why are bell bottoms back in style? Why are classic video games that used to be the size of your television sold today with the software in the joystick? Why do we dig up the old rock bands and put their rickety bodies back on stage? Why do we have remakes of King Kong, and other classic movies? Why, because nastalgia (sp?) gives people a sense of security and ease, thats why.

I pesonally would not mind having Walter back doing the narration. As for the end of the ride, most new technology now is nothing more than miniturization of current technology. Yes, you have cell phones that you can watch movies on, Ipods, hybrid cars, and Coke Zero, but why would you redo the ending when you can throw an Ipod around one of the characters, put a soda can in a scene, and have one of the AA's looking at a cell phone.

the difference is that they go away.....they become a quick fad again, and then, they are gone

The classic video games that were selling for $25 2 years ago are now $5, the old rock bands do one tour, and then they are gone....

do you want WDW to invest money in an attraction that people will love for 1 visit, and then think is dated once again?

 

[Hakunamatata]

the difference is that they go away.....they become a quick fad again, and then, they are gone

The classic video games that were selling for $25 2 years ago are now $5, the old rock bands do one tour, and then they are gone....

do you want WDW to invest money in an attraction that people will love for 1 visit, and then think is dated once again?

Point taken, but what technology could be put into the ending sequence? If I remember correctly, they already have holographic images in one of the scenes, and I dont even think that technology is available or even in wide use.

 

[TheOneVader]

I think that they should totally refurbish the ride.

First, rip out the track and redo it, or whatever will make it silent and smooth.

Second update the vehicles. They can look the same, but at least give them padding and higher head-rests. My head always goes right in the middle of the top, and the edge hurts. Also, get a digital audio system in the headrest

Finally, update the technology and stuff a bit. Mainly just updating scenes to newer technology, getting some new AAs, and updating the technology the people use towards the end of the ride, during the "going into the future of communication" part.

 

[speck76]

Point taken, but what technology could be put into the ending sequence? If I remember correctly, they already have holographic images in one of the scenes, and I dont even think that technology is available or even in wide use.

the ride should only go forward, if/when forward is possible.......backward is never forward.....that was my point

 

[Hakunamatata]

the ride should only go forward, if/when forward is possible.......backward is never forward.....that was my point

I guess my comment was geared toward the belief that since there was new sponser that the ending needed to be changed for change sake. In my opinion I dont think there has been enough advancement in technology to warrent changing the ending. Like I said earlier, technology has moved in the direction of miniturization instead of "new" invention advancements. But I agree for the most part about moving ahead.

 

[TTATraveler]

Along with the padded seats, new audio, and sprucing up of scenes, something needs to be done with the depressing former global neighborhood area.

I liked Tomorrow's child, but frankly don't think it should be brought back in its entirety. Perhaps a small section of just Tomorrow's child muzak (- words) as a way of paying tribute to Kronkite's version of SSE could be added, maybe in the load and unload areas or on the decent back to earth.

 

[Expo_Seeker40]

I can see what both sides are saying...personally I think a compramise can be made. Walter Cronkite is still alive, and since he was such a prominent figure in communication, I think it would be fine to have him return as narrator with a script that reflects the three previous versions, BUT he lacks the character that Vic Perrin and Jemery Irons have.

I think we need to have advanced star fields in the very beginning and very end of the ride , eliminating all those tv's.

I think we should have the return of the 1970s 1980s and 1990s technology sets after we pass the family watching the televisions, and before we enter the 1994 globe and up the communcation corridor.

Then at the climax we can have a 21st century stylied staur field with maybe the return of the astronauts and satellite dish on one side, and on the other side as we are heading backwards, a mars rover on a mars landscape.

On the way down, I think there could be a tomorrow's child tribute with the music playing while new sets of children and technology are presented.

In the transistion stage we hear the original scientific and computer tone sounds from the 82 version before we pass into the 1994 version with a redone star field and classical music with images of a city of the future and future technology before entering the post show.

There compromise! lol
:lookaroun

 

[Tim G]

I'm sorry...did I read correctly...the wand coming down?!

If this turns out to be true...that alone would make me happy...

9 letters...








































Wand stays :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Tim G]

Returning the attraction to the Bell Labs days is another thing.....why bring back an old narration? Why bring back the old theme song?

I totally agree... (this once):lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[dxwwf3]

Using this thought process....why are bell bottoms back in style? Why are classic video games that used to be the size of your television sold today with the software in the joystick? Why do we dig up the old rock bands and put their rickety bodies back on stage? Why do we have remakes of King Kong, and other classic movies? Why, because nastalgia (sp?) gives people a sense of security and ease, thats why.

Fantastic post.

I don't really know if I would personally want the Cronkite narration back or the old version of Tomorrow's Child either, but if that's what Siemens wants to do and Disney is fine with it, why not? Naturally the Tomorrow's Child ending wouldn't be exactly the same (if the rumor is true) because it would be very dated. But they could update the song and change the effects at the end at work in a "Carousel of Progress "There's A Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow" 1990's rehab" type of way. It's not like most of the guests will even notice that it is the old song anyways. Sometimes you can progress by taking something old and putting a fresh spin on it.

 

[Tim G]

I pesonally would not mind having Walter back doing the narration.

Yep, but that would take a lot of work...
Opening the shrine underneath C.O.P. (and you know how long that will take)
Taking the tanks offline...
Waking him up again...
Informing him about every change since he was frozen

And all that, just for a bit of blabering for a ride...

Nah... not such a good idea after all... :lookaroun :lookaroun :lookaroun

 

[speck76]

Wand stays :lol: :lol: :lol:

:sohappy: :sohappy: :sohappy:

 

[dxwwf3]

Yep, but that would take a lot of work...
Opening the shrine underneath C.O.P. (and you know how long that will take)
Taking the tanks offline...
Waking him up again...
Informing him about every change since he was frozen

Wrong Walter :lol:

 

[Shaman]

9 letters...

Wand stays :lol: :lol: :lol:

Perhaps not.

 

[dxwwf3]

Perhaps not.

I'm with ya. Surely it won't stay forever..............:lookaroun

 

[SirNim]

Cronkite narrated the documentary "WCC Chatham Radio," about Marconi (a communications pioneer) in February of this year (2005).

I daresay he'd be willing and able to reprise his role as Spaceship Earth narrator armed with a brand new, or at least tweaked, script with a stronger focus on the modern advancements made in the field.

Of course, it's highly improbable. But regardless, this sure is an interesting thought...