Changes to SSE

speck76

Well-Known Member
Expo_Seeker40 said:
I can see what both sides are saying...personally I think a compramise can be made. Walter Cronkite is still alive, and since he was such a prominent figure in communication, I think it would be fine to have him return as narrator with a script that reflects the three previous versions, BUT he lacks the character that Vic Perrin and Jemery Irons have.

But he WAS a prominent figure.....no longer. I doubt most kids under 12 even know who he is, other than "some old guy".
Expo_Seeker40 said:
I think we need to have advanced star fields in the very beginning and very end of the ride , eliminating all those tv's.

I think something could be done at the beginning of the ride to start it out a bit better....perhaps the safety announcement could be moved into the loading platform, that way the ride would really begin when the ascent began.

Expo_Seeker40 said:
I think we should have the return of the 1970s 1980s and 1990s technology sets after we pass the family watching the televisions, and before we enter the 1994 globe and up the communcation corridor.

How is that technology any different than that which is presented with the 1950's era scene of people watching the TV. The ride communicates major advances in technology......it goes from the movable type printing press to steam powered newspaper press...they don't stop at every change that occured with the printing press in-between those two machines.

What I am trying to say is they can only pick certain major elements, or the ride will become crowded with too many scenes.

More isn't always better, sometimes it is just more.

Expo_Seeker40 said:
Then at the climax we can have a 21st century stylied staur field with maybe the return of the astronauts and satellite dish on one side, and on the other side as we are heading backwards, a mars rover on a mars landscape.

Perhaps a communications satellite instead.....as the ride is about communications. I am not sure how mars would fit with the theme of the ride.
 

Rotel1026

Active Member
To those complaining about roughness, I agree. I vote Disney voids the Siemens deal and signs a deal with La-Z-Boy. Wouldn't it be awesome riding on that track in a nice comfy recliner?

As for those who are wanting change of omnimover system, lets cut out a hole on the side of the building and extend the Test Track track over and we can all ride up and down on cars. Wouldn't that be awesome too?

I doubt SSE is likely to see such dramatic changes anytime soon. I am all for more padding on the vehicles, that thing hurts almost as much as Back to the Future at Universal.

As for change of narrator, if they change the ride enough to need a new narrator, how about we go with either Morgan Freeman or the guy that plays the president on 24 (also appears in Allstate commercials....don't know his name).
 

speck76

Well-Known Member
Rotel1026 said:
To those complaining about roughness, I agree. I vote Disney voids the Siemens deal and signs a deal with La-Z-Boy. Wouldn't it be awesome riding on that track in a nice comfy recliner?

As for those who are wanting change of omnimover system, lets cut out a hole on the side of the building and extend the Test Track track over and we can all ride up and down on cars. Wouldn't that be awesome too?

I doubt SSE is likely to see such dramatic changes anytime soon. I am all for more padding on the vehicles, that thing hurts almost as much as Back to the Future at Universal.

As for change of narrator, if they change the ride enough to need a new narrator, how about we go with either Morgan Freeman or the guy that plays the president on 24 (also appears in Allstate commercials....don't know his name).
Kiefer Sutherland has a good voice, as does Kelsey Grammer.

How about James Earl Jones....go from Scar to Mufasa :)
 

Rotel1026

Active Member
speck76 said:
Kiefer Sutherland has a good voice, as does Kelsey Grammer.

How about James Earl Jones....go from Scar to Mufasa :)

Actually I meant the black man who plays the president, I looked up on IMDB but don't know the name of the president so can't figure out the name of the actor. Actually Kiefer has a good voice as well but I think it's a little too distracting. I watched Phone Booth and the whole time knew who was playing the bad guy, no mystery. But good voice so wouldn't object to him and another great choice with James Earl Jones. Even better, he's done Disney before so that would catch some kids offguard that they recognize the voice.
 

lamarvenoy

New Member
I loved the old Spaceship earth, I loved the old EPCOT. It is a different day though and the past needs to stay where it is,the past. Epcot is supposed to showcase the cutting edge and the cutting edge in 1983 is the laughable dated technology we build upon. Technology is a series of stepping stones and I can't see the flagship of the "future" park stepping back. Not to mention being sponsored by a very technology oriented company like Siemens, I think whatever they do will be innovative instead of mothballs.I just hope Siemens digs deep in their pockets-the potential is there for serious improvement.
 

EpcotMark

Active Member
Rest assured everyone that Walter Cronkite will not be back. I highly question whether Siemens has any control or even cares about the wand.

All I am interested in is better ride seats and better audio to communicate better to the guests. After all thats what the ride is about: COMMUNICATION and its importance to our lives and the survival of the human species. The fact that communication is the beginning of understanding everything else. That theme must be maintained and not sugar coated for the needs of corporate profiteering. Siemens and Disney must be made to understand all this. Just remember the last line Jeremy Irons says in the ride, "Since the Dawn of Recorded time. . ." and well you fill in the rest.
 

Lynx04

New Member
TiggerRPh said:
No offense...but this makes absolutely no sense. Why would a company involved in technology and communication want to go back 10 years? I would think if changes are going to be made they would be in making changes that would showcase future developments.

And after all, Cronkite is such a familar person to the young generation. And lets hear how everyone in the future will be able to communicate using portable phones and everyone will be connected by a new invention called the internet.
 

Woody13

New Member
Oh My Gosh, I Know What Siemens Is Going To Do With SSE!

Siemens Technology Train Rolls into Grand Central Station

"Exider," a 1,000-ft. train specially outfitted with an array of products and demonstrations from Siemens Energy & Automation, made a stop in New York City's Grand Central Station in March. The 14-car train is traveling coast-to-coast giving U.S. manufacturers a first-hand look at some of the most advanced manufacturing processes available. On the train, there are more than 40,000 Siemens products, systems and solutions on view. Here are some of my observations from my tour when the train stopped at Grand Central Station.

As impressive as Grand Central Station is, the Exider sleek, blue train also carried an impressive amount of information displayed on 224 plasma screens supplemented by 189 DVD players, four servers, nine miles of electrical cables, and almost two miles of data lines. There was even a "virtual reality" type of introduction to the exhibit, with flashing lights, film, sound and a "moving" floor. The individual cars featured demonstrations of how modern automation technology is transforming the industrial workplace. Simulated application examples showed how Siemens products are used in the pharmaceutical, chemical and automobile industries.

One of the most interesting exhibits showcased a virtual golf ball factory. An entire train car was given over to featuring Siemens products and systems that can be used to automate the manufacturing process from production and storage, to material handling and packaging. Actual golf balls were sent spinning through pneumatic tubes from one end of the car to the other, to simulate products traveling through the manufacturing process. The end result was a perfectly packaged golf ball (a great souvenir!).

Other cars on the Exider train showcased themes such as process and discrete manufacturing, machine tool components, commercial and residential power distribution, and engineering services. In the process automation car, visitors pass through a tube with process planning steps demonstrated in animated video installations. In another car, a simulated control room allows visitors to oversee an entire production process in realistic detail.

Highlights of the technology train included how to achieve Totally Integrated Automation (TIA) by using Siemens products to reach higher manufacturing speeds, tighter machine integration and safer production environments. Two of the cars focused on OEM solutions featuring the latest in electric and automation components, and a Safety Integrated exhibit with products for industrial safety technology.

For facility managers and engineers, two cars highlighted Totally Integrated Power, a new concept being introduced in the U.S. The concept brings cost savings to the design, installation and operation of plant facilities in the areas of power distribution, power management and building technology services.

Each car was a profusion of lights, animated video screens, informational signs, interactive exhibits and multi-media product demonstrations -- all explained by Siemens technology experts. The train experience coupled with the technology presentations made this a unique product exhibit.

On its global tour, the Exider traveled thousands of miles across Europe and China before crossing the Pacific Ocean by ship and plane on its way to the States. After stopping in several cities in the U.S., the train will travel to Mexico and then head north for the rails of Canada. The Exider technology train confirms Siemens commitment to the U.S. market and their confidence in the U.S. economy, according to Aubert Martin, president and CEO of Siemens Energy & Automation. "While some multinationals hint about exiting the U.S. market, we believe in U.S. manufacturing and are committed to this market for the long run," says Martin.
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bgraham34

Well-Known Member
I like the wand, and I would just love to see something special on SSE. What I dont know. I just dont usually hit it when i goto Epcot anymore.
 

joel_maxwell

Permanent Resident of EPCOT
Corrus said:
I totally agree... (this once):lol: :lol: :lol:
i just marked that on my calender......

wow, the debate continues (wand, post show, narrater) im standing in glue since ive beaten this dead horse enough.... but IMHO, i think that SSE should keep the omnimover and the theme (communication), but as far as the show goes..... man, i really think you could make a incredible visual message with all new updated scenes marking communication throughout history. the final scene has so much potential (sq ft) to be a shockingly explosive finale...... but i guess we will see how much seimens is investing and if SSE gets a dusting off or a complete make over.
 

joel_maxwell

Permanent Resident of EPCOT
objr said:
I don't know, for me, it would be VERY weird, riding SSE hearing Darth Vader narrating...

:lookaroun

:lol: :D
yes, darth.... a little strange....... and in the SW family, the visual if Carey Fisher did the narration would be a great distraction:D
 

WDW Kip

Member
I think it's really unclear right now what exactly will happen with the ride/narration/wand, but I do agree that James Earl Jones would seem out of place as the narrator. This is coming from a life-long Star Wars fan of 25 years.

I think the Walter Cronkite narration would be cool to have back, but I do enjoy that current, Jeremy Irons version as well. While I do like "Tomorrow's Child," I think bringing it back would make the ride a little hokey.
 

CaptainMichael

Well-Known Member
jmaxwell007 said:
yes, darth.... a little strange....... and in the SW family, the visual if Carey Fisher did the narration would be a great distraction:D
Not anymore, have you seen her lately? Natalie Portman on the other hand....
 

Epcot82Guy

Well-Known Member
utrythinkinof1 said:
I like the wand. Whats so bad about it??:wave:

Since the last hopeful bomb was a dud (See CoP thread), I will forgo the Dole Whip and simply say this:

The wand has been a huge point of contention. Some like it because it is a neat icon, looks great, and adds a strong element of fun to Epcot. Some do not because it cheapens the look of SSE. Others like the idea of the sign (including myself) but do not like the "magical" execution in that a large Mickey hand and magic wand have nothing to do with Epcot, and the stars are just overkill.

That's the general debate. There have been quite a few threads about this if you search around a bit.
 

Tim G

Well-Known Member
Epcot82Guy said:
Since the last hopeful bomb was a dud (See CoP thread), I will forgo the Dole Whip and simply say this:

The wand has been a huge point of contention. Some like it because it is a neat icon, looks great, and adds a strong element of fun to Epcot. Some do not because it cheapens the look of SSE. Others like the idea of the sign (including myself) but do not like the "magical" execution in that a large Mickey hand and magic wand have nothing to do with Epcot, and the stars are just overkill.

That's the general debate. There have been quite a few threads about this if you search around a bit.
LET IT BE NOTED: I disagree... :D
 

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