ToTBellHop
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I hate Pinocchio (the movie) but love his Daring Journey. Bring that over!
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Changes to Peter Pan's Flight at Magic Kingdom
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Figments Friend
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Yes, Tony was project lead on Disneyland’s Fantasyland makeover.
He assembled a stellar team to pull it off, too…with Tom Morris, Ken Anderson, and many others by his side.
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He assembled a stellar team to pull it off, too…with Tom Morris, Ken Anderson, and many others by his side.
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WaltWiz1901
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Just a thought, and I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade here...should another Fantasyland expansion come, how about we focus on putting some legitimately new attractions into whatever available space there is and not just waste it by jigsawing in clones of pre-existing builds? The Magic Kingdom is not Disneyland and shouldn't endeavor to be every bit like Disneyland
eddie104
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Yes thank you someone finally said it..let each park stand on their own.
splah
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i find it interesting that the physically smaller size of the older attractions show buildings lends itself to the warmth of nostalgia and being enveloped in the ride. MMRR and ROTR and the new peter pan they're all technological marvels but they feel like they're missing that up close human one-on-one scale.
Tha Realest
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I’m going to start the new Peter Pan Neverland Island of Adventure.
Bocabear
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Thing is, we need more attractions... More attractions that are not blockbuster E tickets, but the more charming offerings that the original Disneyland and WDW dark rides brought to the experience... Disneyland des that so very well. Tney don't need to copy the rides verbatim, but an Alice In Wonderland dark ride where Pooh currently sits, next to the Tea Cups would have made so much sense... Pooh somewhere else also would have made so much sense... a huge part of the charm of Disneyland's Fantasyland is the jigsaw-ed in nature of the area... attractions everywhere it seems...
While I would love to have a bunch more E tickets in the park, we seem to be out of room (except for that waste of a circus tent area)...Adding a few new charming dark rides would be great. Alice has never had any more representation in the park than a teacups flat ride. Pinocchio has nothing. We no longer have Snow White's Scary Adventures. We have a very short, very crowded Peter Pan... So, don't copy exactly what Disneyland has, but Disneyland's formula works... More dark rides...Keep Fantasyland based in the classic tales...and while they are at it, bring the fully designed facades that now every other Disney theme park has... and most of all, look at what the early Imagineers did with scale and content... Cinematically designed micro environments that beautifully captured the mood and feeling... We don't need a Pinocchio "land" but a beautiful facade and charming ride... multiple rides... Take back Fairytale hall for an attraction and move the M&G somewhere else...
ToTBellHop
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And the interesting thing is that it’s a combination of small things more than big things. I’d probably prefer Casey, Jr. and Storybook Land instead of Mermaid, for example. The unknowable factor, however, is how much of DL Fantasyland’s charm is simply due to all of these things being classics at this point. Not sure how the average person would respond to Storybook Land being plopped down in 2024. As it is, people complain about how many Mermaid figures are not AAs while having no problem with that on Snow White or Pinocchio out west.
doctornick
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I still think it is ridiculous that they didn't include that (or add some other small dark ride) with the Fantasyland expansion. Plenty of space there and adding another minor ride would have really changed the dynamic of how that expansion was received.
ToTBellHop
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It boggles my mind that they instead built two meet and greet areas that are each as big as a Fantasyland dark ride.
erasure fan1
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I agree. Those classic dark rides have a charm for sure. But now people expect more out of something new. And in mermaids case, it's a letdown for a few reasons. The biggest issue is the queue. It's a master class in theming in my opinion. It looks so good that you just assume the inside will match the outside. Then you get on the ride and it's a very simplistic ride with one good AA.
AEfx
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I hope so. I was shocked when I first went to Disneyland like 15 years ago and saw how much just the fiber optic stars and such really added to the attraction, and was dumbfounded that they hadn't done the same at the MK. I mean, that stuff is really cheap - you can do your kid's ceiling for a few hundred bucks, its such an inexpensive technology that is just so impactful.
AEfx
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As someone who grew up with the metal fair tent stuff we always had at the MK, that was one of the most shockingly delightful things about Disneyland for me the first time. Their Fantasyland truly feels like you are wandering the neighborhood that the characters "lived" in - you turn a corner, and there is the Wicked Queen's castle, another Mr. Toad's Mansion, and then you stumble upon Alice. It is just so magical.
Bocabear
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two good AAs... The Ariel and Ursula are both pretty great... The ride needed a better resolution and ending and it would have been great... that said it is longer and better if actually compared to the original Snow White ride and Peter Pan is laughably short... For the most popular ride in Fantasyland, it should be a longer better attraction. The new Fantasy Springs dark rides are cute...I did not care much for the Peter Pan's TVLand Adventure, but the other two were cute... The Tangled ride, while very beautiful seemed to suffer from the same thing we have seen before where it is just a little too short and for a book report ride, completely misses the villain which creates the tension in the film.
Maybe everyone today just wants instagrammable fluff.... but the older dark rides seemed to create an awful lot of magic with a smaller footprint, no AAs, no screens, and much lower budgets....
Maybe everyone today just wants instagrammable fluff.... but the older dark rides seemed to create an awful lot of magic with a smaller footprint, no AAs, no screens, and much lower budgets....
pigglewiggle
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The million dollar question!
ToTBellHop
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Considering how long it takes them to replace popcorn lights on MSUSA, I won’t be holding my breath.
I'm pretty sure The Contract says Disney can't use the phrase "Island of Adventure" in their theme parks.