Castle Ramp Smoking Section Eliminated

[erclvrb18]

They don't need to avoid the theme park. Just a few small areas of those parks.

the castle is not a place you should avoid going to from the path of the wishing well..

 

[englanddg]

the castle is not a place you should avoid going to from the path of the wishing well..

I think pretty much every comment I have read, smokers and non-smokers alike, that has addressed that specific spot (and/or the Adventurland one) has agreed, it was a terrible location.

That aside...Disney hates smoking so much that they'll sell you cigs. Funny. Cause you can't buy gum from a Disney venue...a common crutch and coping mechanism for someone quitting or trying to quit...but you can get smokes!

 

[BoarderPhreak]

Great counterpoints ... but never once was I talking about death by cancer from second hand smoke, I was talking about deaths from exposure to second hand smoke. For what its worth, the leading cause of death resulting from exposure to second hand smoke is heart disease. Since 1964 it has been documented that over 2 million in the US have died from illnesses directly related to exposure to second hand smoke.

I am an x-smoker, and it is just ignorant to think that inhaling or breathing in smoke whether directly or indirectly is not harmful to your health.

Nobody will tell you it's healthy, certainly. But deaths related to secondhand smoke aren't caused by catching an occasional whiff while walking past a smoking area. As with smoking itself, it's caused by sustained exposure such as being in the same house with a smoker (smoking inside), etc. I wish all these stat-spewers would take a look at secondhand exposure to automotive and aerospace exhaust, factory emissions and all the other things we breathe in day-to-day. Or maybe take a look at Beijing? They're not dropping like flies over there (granted, asthma is through the roof). If it were as bad as it's made out to be, how do you explain Europeans generally living longer than their American counterparts (besides eating actually healthy food), despite being exposed to smoking much more?

Now, is it unpleasant to smell? Absolutely. I'll give you that. And I used to smoke!

Like I said, the paranoia is hysterical. It's a fair bit of statistical nonsense.

 

[fractal]

Nobody will tell you it's healthy, certainly. But deaths related to secondhand smoke aren't caused by catching an occasional whiff while walking past a smoking area. As with smoking itself, it's caused by sustained exposure such as being in the same house with a smoker (smoking inside), etc. I wish all these stat-spewers would take a look at secondhand exposure to automotive and aerospace exhaust, factory emissions and all the other things we breathe in day-to-day. Or maybe take a look at Beijing? They're not dropping like flies over there (granted, asthma is through the roof). If it were as bad as it's made out to be, how do you explain Europeans generally living longer than their American counterparts (besides eating actually healthy food), despite being exposed to smoking much more?

Now, is it unpleasant to smell? Absolutely. I'll give you that. And I used to smoke!

Like I said, the paranoia is hysterical. It's a fair bit of statistical nonsense.

I'm guessing eating a turkey leg is about as bad for you as smoking a couple of packs.

 

[betty rose]

I smoke. I never used that particular smoking area though because it was so in the "stream" of visitors. I agree that smoking areas should be in areas that are out of the way. Partly because I understand others not wanting to deal with smoke and partly because getting some peoples negative reactions to smoke as they walk thru a smoking area tick me off. Hate on me if you must, but I'm trying to be polite about my "nasty habit".

Having asthma myself, I don't hate you for smoking, you have the right to go into any smoking area that is designated. I've often wondered why Disney doesn't have a good well, ventilated air conditioned lounge, maybe with snacks and drinks for smokers where you can enjoy yourself.

 

[englanddg]

I'm guessing eating a turkey leg is about as bad for you as smoking a couple of packs.

If you did either for every meal for every day for 30-40 years...very likely! (Grin)

 

[Clamman73]

I'm guessing eating a turkey leg is about as bad for you as smoking a couple of packs.

Designated turkey leg eating areas coming soon...

 

[ToTBellHop]

I'm guessing eating a turkey leg is about as bad for you as smoking a couple of packs.

That's not fair. Those turkey legs are so unnatural that they are surely packed with carcinogens and mutagens. I would hate to have a run-in with one of those turkeys. They would cut you.

 

[TomP]

Having asthma myself, I don't hate you for smoking, you have the right to go into any smoking area that is designated. I've often wondered why Disney doesn't have a good well, ventilated air conditioned lounge, maybe with snacks and drinks for smokers where you can enjoy yourself.

You have a very reasonable attitude and the idea of a lounge is nice but I doubt it would ever happen. Even if WDW did add a "smoking lounge" there would still be some aggressive anti-smokers who would decry the fact that there was a place that they could not use because "terrible smokers".

 

[erclvrb18]

I think pretty much every comment I have read, smokers and non-smokers alike, that has addressed that specific spot (and/or the Adventurland one) has agreed, it was a terrible location.

That aside...Disney hates smoking so much that they'll sell you cigs. Funny. Cause you can't buy gum from a Disney venue...a common crutch and coping mechanism for someone quitting or trying to quit...but you can get smokes!

lol I was a custodial for a short period so i know why... lol

 

[MissM]

I would like to see them relocate the one across from Aloha Isle. There is limited seating available to enjoy a dole whip, and would be nice to not have it in a smoking section. Again, I'm not saying eliminated, only relocated.

The next one I would like to see gone is the one by Aloha Isle. High traffic, high demand for seating at times, cherished product that is dependent on taste buds: does not equal smoking section in my opinion.

The location across from Aloha Isle changed last year some time: http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...-smoking-areas-this-week.893518/#post-6439768

Here's the picture I posted then:

And if you look at the new map Steve posted about the hub pathways being updated on the new guidemap, you can see it the change there too: http://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions...m-guide-map-shows-new-plaza-gardens/23394.htm

 

[betty rose]

You have a very reasonable attitude and the idea of a lounge is nice but I doubt it would ever happen. Even if WDW did add a "smoking lounge" there would still be some aggressive anti-smokers who would decry the fact that there was a place that they could not use because "terrible smokers".

Never thought of that, my dad was a smoker most of his life, so I understand the need to smoke. I didn't take it up, as I'm too cheap, my "vice" is chocolate...think it's time to have some...

 

[BoarderPhreak]

Having asthma myself, I don't hate you for smoking, you have the right to go into any smoking area that is designated. I've often wondered why Disney doesn't have a good well, ventilated air conditioned lounge, maybe with snacks and drinks for smokers where you can enjoy yourself.

In addition to what TomP said; probably because Disney would then be seen as "promoting" it in some way. And with smokers waning in numbers, it seems like throwing money to the wind... And we all know Disney doesn't do anything if it doesn't raise profits.

 

[psherman42]

I don't smoke, however I do understand the need for a few smoking sections in the parks. But like others have said, this one was very poorly placed. I've used this walkway many times and hated having to hold my breath. I'm glad it's gone.

 

[Bugz]

Yes the first year we went I smoked and again realized if I quit we could fund the trip every year (blah blah), but anyways I felt uncomfortable smoking there i guess cuz it just is not the thing to do there around kids and everyone having fun while you stand in the shadows smoking? it just didnt fit, which in turn helped me quit.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I propose they turn Country Bear Jamboree into MK's designated smoking area. It's basically on theme, out of the way, and sparsely attended.

 

[Konor]

I think we can all agree that this is one time that something being taken away is beneficial for the park as a whole.

 

[Goofyernmost]

You know why you don't see people smoking places other than where they should in Disney World? Because Cast Members are vigilant about keeping people from doing it, that's why. It isn't because smokers are polite and thoughtful. Oh, sure... a handful are. But the majority don't care who it affects. If you don't like it then don't visit the parks. Or quit. That's an even better idea. We're passholders and make a 2 week visit two or three times each year. I certainly don't want to pay all the money we pay to do that to be hazed by smoke when we walk around the castle or when we want to eat some Dole Pineapple Whip. P.S. We don't drink either. But, besides that, in all of our trips to Disney World I have yet to see a lit park goer.

No the majority do care, it's completely the other way around. There are always a few rebels that defy anyone make them conform to the rules. That, however, is the exception not the norm.

If you don't like people to be able to exercise rights, other then your own, then don't visit the parks. Or get over yourselves.

 

[wogwog]

I propose they turn Country Bear Jamboree into MK's designated smoking area. It's basically on theme, out of the way, and sparsely attended.

Smoking is not permitted inside any Disney building, not even employee only buildings. Not even Big Al.

 

[Kman101]

As being on both sides of the coin, smokers have every right to smoke in the parks in their designated areas. I also have to admit I've almost never seen anyone deviating from that. Cast members can't catch everyone and I try to be very observant. "We" are actually very conscience. I always felt uncomfortable smoking in areas that everyone could clearly walk by. In that instance, I do get the griping, but don't lecture the smoker, lecture Disney for placing them in areas where a lot of people are walking by. I don't judge anyone for drinking, marijuana, etc. It's an unhealthy habit but it's their right to smoke. And no one better ever grab a cigarette out of my mouth unless you know me VERY well. That's rude and not right and a HUGE violation of personal space. I don't care what you're personal feelings are towards smoking. It's not up to you to decide what is right for me. I appreciate the concern, smoking kills, it does, but it's mine and others right to choose to do it and we have every right, as long as Disney allows, to smoke in the park. I actually feel a bit strange smoking IN the park, but that's me. I can usually go all day without and be just fine though.

And yes, the number of smokers is declining, but I think many here would be surprised at how common it still is. It also depends on the area you are in, IMO.

Smoking isn't going away anytime soon. And like others have said, it's very common elsewhere. Go to Paris, they smoke everywhere at Disneyland Parc, I've seen that said so many times. It's different everywhere you go.

How about just simple respect for others. That kind of thing works both ways. We're losing sight of that in many ways.