MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Gusey]

Yeah, the list gets really long if you include M&G as well. I also like when specific actors have crossovers. Ellen used to be in 2 places in EPCOT, but I think Chris Pratt currently takes the cake as the main person in GOTG, Velocicoaster, and a ride in Lego Land.

Martin Short used to be around for ever in Monster Sound Show @ MGM Studios, Making of Me @ Epcot, O'Canada @ Epcot and Cinemagique @ DLP. Now he's gone when he seems to be more relevant again.
Back on topic, that's why it's interesting that they've decided to close WDW's only Cars attraction to move the IP to Magic Kingdom instead of doubling their opportunities for merch sales (which they can do by spreading the IPs across the parks)

 

[Agent H]

Martin Short used to be around for ever in Monster Sound Show @ MGM Studios, Making of Me @ Epcot, O'Canada @ Epcot and Cinemagique @ DLP. Now he's gone when he seems to be more relevant again.
Back on topic, that's why it's interesting that they've decided to close WDW's only Cars attraction to move the IP to Magic Kingdom instead of doubling their opportunities for merch sales (which they can do by spreading the IPs across the parks)

Did racing academy bump up merchandise sales that much? It didn’t have a connected store or even a merchandise kiosk if I remember correctly.

 

[Gusey]

Did racing academy bump up merchandise sales that much? It didn’t have a connected store or even a merchandise kiosk if I remember correctly.

I thought there was a kiosk and some merch in the stores on Sunset Boulevard but not 100%. Don't think it's had much impact on merch sales though but something is always better than nothing

 

[UNCgolf]

Haha true but the difference here is that the main draw / E ticket already exists at Epcot. So do they build/ design a brand new Frozen E ticket for this new land? Not sure what route they go with Frozen 3 but as of now I don’t think the source material supports another E ticket. Perhaps if they went the thrill route (Frozen Matterhorn) but then they’d be alienating a lot of the kids. But then again we have Tiana’s Bayou Adventure with a 40 inch height requirement.

Frozen Ever After is definitely not an E ticket.

 

[mickEblu]

Frozen Ever After is definitely not an E ticket.

If you were an attraction, you’d be an A ticket.

 

[Epcot82Guy]

Frozen Ever After is definitely not an E ticket.

It is a legacy C/D ticket attraction with a B/C ticket redo with D ticket animatronics (that should have been E ticket, as they did with the clones). The problem is that C/D ticket attraction didn't have capacity for anything higher, thus creating E ticket waits.

 

[mickEblu]

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It is a legacy C/D ticket attraction with a B/C ticket redo with D ticket animatronics (that should have been E ticket, as they did with the clones). The problem is that C/D ticket attraction didn't have capacity for anything higher, thus creating E ticket waits.

I mean if we go down that rabbit hole what else is not an E by today’s standards? Is IASW still an E ticket?

I think it’s an E even if barely. It’s a boat ride. It’s a dark ride. The top quality AAs (albeit with projected faces) and small thrills take it over the top. I think the lowest it can possibly be on anyone’s list would be a D ticket. With that said I have hard time putting Frozen Ever After in the same tier as Radiator Springs Racers / ROTR/ Indy/ POTC/ Mansion. Then again did Enchanted Tiki Room or Monorail deserve to be in the same tier as POTC?

I think the issue lies in using an old system to describe/ classify new rides. A system that never really solely classified the attractions based on quality as you can see below. And if we re going to keep classifying attractions in this way I think we re at point where there should at least be an F ticket to really help classify the rides appropriately.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Lets say Disney destroyed three A ticket attractions to build a new area that has one E ticket and one A ticket, but since they never properly tested the E ticket attraction; taking 5 plus years to build it, then in the end rushed it out to try to open it in less than 6 years and this E ticket is down more than its up, is it still considered an E ticket?

 

[mickEblu]

Lets say Disney destroyed three A ticket attractions to build a new area that has one E ticket and one A ticket, but since they never properly tested the E ticket attraction; taking 5 plus years to build it, then in the end rushed it out to try to open it in less than 6 years and this E ticket is down more than its up, is it still considered an E ticket?

But then let’s also say that those 3 A tickets combined to = a Triple E ticket in atmosphere/ ambiance. Now, is it worth it? And oh ya that E ticket is most likely a D ticket. Haha

 

[Epcot82Guy]

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I mean if we go down that rabbit hole what else is not an E by today’s standards? Is IASW still an E ticket?

I think it’s an E even if barely. It’s a boat ride. It’s a dark ride. The top quality AAs (albeit with projected faces) and small thrills take it over the top. I think the lowest it can possibly be on anyone’s list would be a D ticket. With that said I have hard time putting Frozen Ever After in the same tier as Radiator Springs Racers / ROTR/ Indy/ POTC/ Mansion. Then again did Enchanted Tiki Room or Monorail deserve to be in the same tier as POTC?

I think the issue lies in using an old system to describe/ classify new rides. A system that never really solely classified the attractions based on quality as you can see below. And if we re going to keep classifying attractions in this way I think we re at point where there should at least be an F ticket to really help classify the rides appropriately.

I think you missed my point. I said Maelstrom was a C/D. It was not designed to bring in large crowds and handle them. The ride system limits throughput. Then then did a relatively poor/empty redo of it, dumping all the money into the animatronics. So, you get a popular attraction that has underbuilt capacity. While Disney loves those for LL purposes, it's not designed (physically) as an E ticket and was not expanded to be one.

Can anyone say they would genuinely enjoy FEA that much if it didn't include Frozen? I would argue most true E tickets are of the scale and detail where the IP isn't as important. I don't think FEA meets that standard. It's popular in the way Fantasyland rides are popular. And, other than IASW and maybe 7DMT, I don't see any true E tickets in FL. Peter Pan is popular, but not an E (again, given capacity issues).

 

[UNCgolf]

It's hard for me to imagine classifying FEA as even a D ticket, but I can't imagine anyone looking at it and thinking it was an E. I'd definitely classify it as a C, and one of the weaker ones too, despite the impressive AAs. It's just lacking everything else that you'd expect from a D or E.

I'd have called Maelstrom a C as well.

If FEA is a D or almost an E, then Navi River Journey is at worst a D and pushing E (and it's definitely not, it's a C ticket too).

 

[WDWFREAK53]

Can anyone say they would genuinely enjoy FEA that much if it didn't include Frozen?

Couldn't you really say that about any attraction? If you remove the theme/story, wouldn't it just be an amusement park ride?

Would it be "Frozen Ever After" if it didn't include Frozen? Would it just be "Ever After?"

 

[Epcot82Guy]

Couldn't you really say that about any attraction? If you remove the theme/story, wouldn't it just be an amusement park ride?

Would it be "Frozen Ever After" if it didn't include Frozen? Would it just be "Ever After?"

Again, that's not my point. I'm not saying remove the theme entirely. I'm saying popularity of the character is driving this - not attraction and story quality. Quality was (historically) part of the calculation of ticket level.

Admittedly, Disney is now pushing Disney characters as the driver. And, if you want to use that as a metric - fine. But, I would recommend we walk away from using "E Ticket" as a designation then. We need a different way of rating what is built.

 

[Delta-7]

Some of you know Park Lore (the website that makes amazing park buildouts), but they define an E-ticket as meeting two of the three criteria:

• A novel and extraordinary ride system
• An ambitious and spectacular scale
• An exceptionally renowned, historic, or sought-after experience

They wrote a whole article about what Disney rides they consider E-tickets, and some of these may surprise you as they did me.

By The Numbers: The Surprising Number of E-Ticket Attractions at Each Disney Park - Park Lore

They are the Holy Grail of theme park attractions – astounding, breathtaking, spectacular rides both classic and modern. When you imagine the most amazing experiences at Disney and Universal parks, it’s probably E-Ticket attractions you picture: the coveted, beloved, fan-favorite...

parklore.com

I mean I guess that possible smaller Cars ride works as an A or B ticket, but the rest of these expansions are basically anchor attractions. Gotta get the LL’s in!!

 

[Brer Panther]

I'm rereading the 2007 Unofficial Guide to Walt Disney World via the Internet Archive. Y'know how they used to have those "peek behind the scenes" fact boxes for some attractions?

Well, one such factoid claimed that Tom Saywer Island was on the endangered attractions list for a while (because it wasn't wheelchair accessible), but John Lasseter loved the island, and since he was the principal creative advisor for Imagineering at the time, that meant they couldn't remove it.

I know John's a controversial figure, but do you think there's any relation to how they're removing Tom Saywer Island and how he was shown the door in 2018? Then again, if that was the case they probably would've replaced it a long time ago...

 

[Disstevefan1]

Some of you know Park Lore (the website that makes amazing park buildouts), but they define an E-ticket as meeting two of the three criteria:

• A novel and extraordinary ride system
• An ambitious and spectacular scale
• An exceptionally renowned, historic, or sought-after experience

They wrote a whole article about what Disney rides they consider E-tickets, and some of these may surprise you as they did me.

By The Numbers: The Surprising Number of E-Ticket Attractions at Each Disney Park - Park Lore

They are the Holy Grail of theme park attractions – astounding, breathtaking, spectacular rides both classic and modern. When you imagine the most amazing experiences at Disney and Universal parks, it’s probably E-Ticket attractions you picture: the coveted, beloved, fan-favorite...

parklore.com

I mean I guess that possible smaller Cars ride works as an A or B ticket, but the rest of these expansions are basically anchor attractions. Gotta get the LL’s in!!

My personal definition of an E ticket would be the most popular; the attraction folks most want to experience for whatever reason.

 

[UNCgolf]

Some of you know Park Lore (the website that makes amazing park buildouts), but they define an E-ticket as meeting two of the three criteria:

• A novel and extraordinary ride system
• An ambitious and spectacular scale
• An exceptionally renowned, historic, or sought-after experience

They wrote a whole article about what Disney rides they consider E-tickets, and some of these may surprise you as they did me.

By The Numbers: The Surprising Number of E-Ticket Attractions at Each Disney Park - Park Lore

They are the Holy Grail of theme park attractions – astounding, breathtaking, spectacular rides both classic and modern. When you imagine the most amazing experiences at Disney and Universal parks, it’s probably E-Ticket attractions you picture: the coveted, beloved, fan-favorite...

parklore.com

I mean I guess that possible smaller Cars ride works as an A or B ticket, but the rest of these expansions are basically anchor attractions. Gotta get the LL’s in!!

That's a bizarre list of E tickets even using their own defined criteria; they list rides that don't meet their definition and don't list some that do.

Although their criteria is wildly subjective anyways, beyond just pointing at wait times.

 

[Delta-7]

That's a bizarre list of E tickets even using their own defined criteria; they list rides that don't meet their definition and don't list some that do.

Although their criteria is wildly subjective anyways, beyond just pointing at wait times.

Yeah I was wondering why Peter Pans Flight, 7DMT, Star Tours and Lantern Festival were on there.

 

[Agent H]

Yeah I was wondering why Peter Pans Flight, 7DMT, Star Tours and Lantern Festival were on there.

3 of those are great attractions. That’s why.

 

[UNCgolf]

3 of those are great attractions. That’s why.

Being a great attraction doesn't make something an E ticket, though. It's about scale etc. more than just being good -- I think Navi River Journey is a great attraction relative to its scale, but it's not an E ticket. I also think Jungle Cruise is not a very good attraction but it's still an E ticket.