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CoasterCowboy67

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flynnibus said:
This is not arbitrary - it's literally taken from the master planning of the parks themselves. It is you who is focusing on an absolute literal use of the word and chose to ignore it's long accepted use in this context. It's why your comments have caused friction because you are literally using the language in a way foreign to the topic.

The fact Cosmic Rewind needs a bigger building than Energy does not magically make the ride into a 'New Park Expansion' -- there is no practical interpretation of that... yet you alone insist it is.
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Well I’m calling out inconsistency and double standard -- I fully expect friction

If many here subscribe to the “expansion has to be labeled ‘expansion plot’ before the expansion takes place for it to count as an expansion” philosophy, I suggest they reconsider and use something with practical significance. The plan is meaningless to guests. If an area previously unlabeled for expansion is now suddenly within the footprint of the park, I guess it skipped the “potential explanation plot” phase and just went directly to “current park boundary” phase. But make no mistake, it is there and guests feel it.

There is no denying that the boundary of Epcot expanded when Cosmic opened. There is no denying that the usable area for guests at Epcot expanded when Cosmic opened. It makes no difference what it was labeled in the past because today, it’s part of the boundary of onstage space which is what practically matters. Anything else is being unnecessarily difficult

Apologies if I had to be the one to burst the bubble
 
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el_super

el_super

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Bocabear said:
So basically any theming or romanticization of any other part of the world is now off the table?
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You can see how the Jungle Cruise has changed since it opened... en thecent changes for this.

Honestly, even Walt pivoted from True-Life Adventureland to IP land within just 6 years of opening it.

It's just not really a thing now.
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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October82 said:
GMR is a weird one - it seemed tailor made for a Great Disney Movie Ride redo.
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I will say if it survived just a little bit longer, I think it would have become a Disney100 kinda themed ride where it goes through some of the biggest moments/movies of the last 100 years of Disney. That actually would have been great to see especially if we got both that ride + MMRR
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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Bocabear said:
Look at all the years worth of Merch for HM they never had... Why didn't they do an HM shop decades earlier? It was not until the first Harry Potter and Hogsmeade opened at Universal for them to all of the sudden think...gee why don't we do something like that?
Tom Sawyer's Island could have drawn more people...Heck most everyone I talk to have no idea what was on the island...they didnlt know about the Mystery Mine , the caves, the fort and secret escape tunnel... It is an amazing attraction. Perhaps if Aunt Polly's had decent food and better hours... If there were other shopportunities integrated into the island.... Maybe even a smaller footprint ride or two, that island would have had even more traffic... I think we all thought of it as a place to slow down for a bit....But Disney doesn't want you to do that...
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right so you want to replace the slow down place with somewhere with even more traffic? You do understand the logistics NIGHTMARE of having "a ride or two" on an island right? What happens if the ride gets stuck or an emergency happens?
 
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djlaosc

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If we are wanting to be pedantic, didn't Avengers Campus open with 5 new attractions?
  • Avengers Assemble!
  • Dr. Strange: Mysteries of the Mystic Arts
  • The Amazing Spider-Man!
  • Warriors of Wakanda: The Disciplines of the Dora Milaje
  • WEB SLINGERS: A Spider-Man Adventure
Whether you classify the above ride and 4 shows to be better/worse use of space than the Bug's Land 4 flat-rides, 3D show and 1 splash pad is up to you.

If you are still 1 attraction short, would the picture spot at the sanctum where you are falling in count as a suitable replacement for the splash pad?


But back to Cars...
 
Incomudro

Incomudro

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el_super said:
Adventureland was created at a time that far off jungle locales were still considered exotic, dangerous, and different enough to solicit wonder.

It's not necessarily that YouTube videos replace the experience of going to these places, but that the idea of a far off place being dangerous and exotic ... isn't the case anymore. They are easily accessible in that you can get a fair amount of real information about them in 30 minutes or less.

So why go see a fake version at a Disney park?

That's not even touching on the idea that calling someone else's home exotic for entertainment value isn't really something the kids today will accept at a social level.
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Uhhh...
Exotic places are still exotic and potentially dangerous.
Their more easy accessibility doesn't really change that.
Why see a fake version in a Disney Park?
Why ride a Cars ride in a Disney Park when you can just go off roading?
The point of the park and the rides is that they are fun, and a variety of environments can be visited just a stroll away from each other.
 
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Chef idea Mickey`=

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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost said:
But yeah, Disney is 100% focusing on recent, currently hot IP that haven't proven they can stand the test of time. Will Encanto be popular by the time the ride opens? Will people still care about Cars in 20 years?
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I'm just surprised of all things Princess and The Frog or Tiana got selected for Splash Mountain. Many say Cars is not a popular Pixar IP but it's definitely more well known nowadays than say Princess and the Frog for a hit..just my opinion.
 
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Quietmouse

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Disney is memorable and magical not in spite of the ip attractions but because of the ip attractions.

Would tea cups be just as memorable if it was not themed to mad tea party ?
 
Schmidt

Schmidt

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CoasterCowboy67 said:
Exactly, it is. The 5 attractions at Bugs Land closed in 2018, the WEB Slingers D-ticket opened in 2021, and now, in 2024 (…6 years after they closed down 5 attractions) they tell us about the other 2 attractions coming but no date in sight.

And DLR is doing it right with expansions?
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HUH? Are you using a Bugs land and multiple parks to make your point?
 
Schmidt

Schmidt

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CoasterCowboy67 said:
Just talking about one park (DCA) and one land (Bugs Life) and what it was replaced with
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I don't know. I would be pretty excited to be getting 2 Avengers E tickets, Major Pandora Ride, and Coco.
Seems like you are focusing on what you lost. To be honest what you lost was minimal in the scheme of things. I think Disney knocked it out of the park for DCA and WDW. Its kind of odd what people are complaining about especially for DCA. Are you really going to miss a Bugs Life. lololol.
 
October82

October82

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el_super said:
Adventureland was created at a time that far off jungle locales were still considered exotic, dangerous, and different enough to solicit wonder.
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They still do. That's why the wealthy still visit exotic places (even if takes slightly less wealth today than it once did). The jet engine may have made world smaller than it once was, but it's still a big and interesting place. It's a pretty impoverished view to think otherwise.

el_super said:
It's not necessarily that YouTube videos replace the experience of going to these places, but that the idea of a far off place being dangerous and exotic ... isn't the case anymore. They are easily accessible in that you can get a fair amount of real information about them in 30 minutes or less.

So why go see a fake version at a Disney park?

That's not even touching on the idea that calling someone else's home exotic for entertainment value isn't really something the kids today will accept at a social level.
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People in the 1950s and 1960s also had access to information about these places in 30 minutes or less. We now have information about those places in 3 seconds or less. This logic applies to anything - why go to the Disney Parks if I have Cars at home? Why go on Toy Story Midway Mania if it was literally available for a video game console?

The answer isn't the world is less full of adventure and wonder than it used to be, or that people today are enlightened by the existence of Youtube in a way that the people of the 1950s weren't, but that theme parks are a fundamentally different kind of experience from a virtual experience, reading a book, or watching a movie. Going to a theme park isn't, and wasn't, a substitute for going on a real African jungle cruise, visiting a "real" haunted house, or exploring the frontier. And it isn't the same as reading about those things in a book or watching it on a laptop screen either. None of these are substitutes for each other.
 

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