News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[BuzzedPotatoHead89]

Is that factual or revisionist memory? Between 1995 and 2019 Disneyland’s most significant new attraction was… Buzz Lightyear or Pooh?

Another interesting metric might be to see which park has NETTED the most new attractions (over the duration of time both parks operated) as opposed to cherry-picking a 14 year span in time.

If we want to handicap we could even start with 1971 to have a fair look back period for both parks. Even though supposedly MK is surrounded by non-developed land and has the “blessing of size”.

We could also compare the number of total attractions and E-tickets in California’s 2 resort theme parks to WDW’s 4 resorts.

 

[John park hopper]

Maybe TSI will go the way of Discovery Island -----abandoned

 

[gorillaball]

Another interesting metric might be to see which park has NETTED the most new attractions (over the duration of time both parks operated) as opposed to cherry-picking a 14 year span in time.

If we want to handicap we could even start with 1971 to have a fair look back period for both parks. Even though supposedly MK is surrounded by non-developed land and has the “blessing of size”.

We could also compare the number of total attractions and E-tickets in California’s 2 resort theme parks to WDW’s 4 resorts.

I did cherry pick, that’s fair, but it’s hardly a small sample it’s 24 years (not 14). To say they have continually added more just wasn’t the case for a 1/4 century until they dropped Galaxy’s Edge in and then later Mickey and Minnie’s. The rest of @TrainsOfDisney ‘s comments were a valid statement, this portion was not accurate support for that statement (in my opinion).

 

[Incomudro]

It was a splendid day on the Island of Iger. All the engines were working hard to be right on time. They love being responsible, reliable, and very useful, and it makes them feel important. However, they don't like confusion and delay.

I.M. Fearless was puffing along the riverside track, when a workman flagged him down.

"Bother!" he huffed. "I'm going to be late to the yards. What's the matter now?" The workman approached him.

"This line will be closed soon for a while" he explained. "We're marking the river for a new racing rally." I.M. Fearless was shocked.

"Not the river! This is the loveliest part of the line! It's so quiet and scenic."

"Times are changing I'm afraid," said the workman. "Bob Iger needs new use for this area to bring in more guests." I.M. Fearless grew unhappier still. He continued on his way to tell the other engines at the yards.

Well done.
One of my son's loved Thomas when he was little, and you nailed it very well.

 

[FettFan]

Again folks, we need to vote with our wallets.

I intend to load my wallet with thin-but-heavy lead plates so I can chuck it at Iger or Damaro’s head Oddjob-style.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

They could keep the River as is and build on an expansion pad and it wouldn’t be a nightmare.

But what about the expansions that they’re never going to build in the future? What will they ever do?

 

[Starship824]

But what about the expansions that they’re never going to build in the future? What will they ever do?

This, I hate all the comments about that, especially in DHS with monsters possibly replacing muppets. People having been saying "No they should leave animation courtyard for Future expansion AFTER this" they say the same about the ROA. News flash THIS IS THE FUTURE EXPANSION RIGHT NOW.

 

[CoasterCowboy67]

Disneyland and MK are very different parks, and DL is no poster child for expansions or thematic consistency. It needs ROA more than MK to blend the 5 lands squeezed around it. A river is about the only thing you can do to blend a tropical treehouse, New Orleans, Mexico, and Winnie the Pooh

MK’s approach is fewer and larger lands and I’m glad they were at least thoughtful about making Cars an extension of Frontierland rather than Critter Bayou Country or New Orleans Square

 

[wannabeBelle]

so are you saying that putting the Monsters Inc attraction in a place where the Studios, which has one of the lowest attraction counts of all of the Disney Parks, should take out an attraction that still has some interest to people to rebuild into this new attraction as opposed to putting it into an area that is not attracting many people at all and anything that is in there could easily be moved? I would definitely disagree with that one for sure. They need to start building more rides and attractions, not simply replacing an existing attraction with another, if there is any choice to be able to do so. In this case, it appears that there is that option. This has the advantage of being able to open up the Animation Courtyard section of the park, connecting a few different areas of the park and maybe allowing for more than just the one attraction. If you are simply ripping out Muppets, you are limiting capacity even further than it already is by reducing the usable footprint of the part during construction. And after that is done, you would be looking at Animation Courtyard for expansion anyhow. Marie

 

[FettFan]

Questions I would love to ask Josh D'Amaro:

• Does Lightning McQueen purchase life insurance or car insurance?
• The Popemobile appeared in Cars 2, implying the existence of Jesus Christ as an automobile. What make and model was the messiah?

This is why I don't get invited to media events.

The Cars Universe gets only more horrifying the deeper you think about it.
Case in point: Sarge and Fillmore.


Sarge is a 1940s Willys Jeep. He is literally a product of WWII.

Fillmore is a Volkswagen bus. Volkswagen as a company was founded by government charter in 1937…and just *who* was in charge of Germany in 1937?


Extrapolating that into the Planes spinoffs, you have Skipper who is a Vought F4U Corsair, created specifically for naval air warfare against the Japanese.

Meaning that the Fat Man and Little Boy atom bombs must have existed in the Cars universe….and I can’t help but wonder if they too had faces and personalities, like the Bullet Bills of the Mario franchise.

 

[BuzzedPotatoHead89]

Disneyland and MK are very different parks, and DL is no poster child for expansions or thematic consistency. It needs ROA more than MK to blend the 5 lands squeezed around it. A river is about the only thing you can do to blend a tropical treehouse, New Orleans, Mexico, and Winnie the Pooh

MK’s approach is fewer and larger lands and I’m glad they were at least thoughtful about making Cars an extension of Frontierland rather than Critter Bayou Country or New Orleans Square

Whatever floats your boat… or in the case of Liberty Belle sends it to the scrap yard.

 

[Stripes]

Building on the Rivers of America gives them easy land to build on as it doesn’t need much to make building suitable. It’ll be cheaper and, importantly, much faster than any of the alternatives.

Meanwhile, they are bulldozing the trees and creating a gravel laydown yard in the red and green areas below. They will be using this land to store equipment and materials for building the Cars attractions and the Villains land.

The land in red is considered marginally unsuitable and I doubt they will ever build on this land. However, the land in green is considered marginally suitable and after Cars and Villains start wrapping up I can see them making that land suitable and connecting it to the rumored Adventureland expansion in blue.

Getting rid of the Rivers of America and the Liberty Belle also enables them to build over the canal. Martin shared that the areas in green and blue are considered expansion plots by the company and I believe getting rid of the ROA is truly long-term thinking that will correct some flawed land planning that took place when MK was being designed back in the 1960s

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Disneyland and MK are very different parks, and DL is no poster child for expansions or thematic consistency.

I disagree 100% - Disneyland is the poster child and the masterclass in theme park design. The only major issue is how they have neglected parts of Tomorrowland.

 

[Incomudro]

The Cars Universe gets only more horrifying the deeper you think about it.
Case in point: Sarge and Fillmore.


Sarge is a 1940s Willys Jeep. He is literally a product of WWII.

Fillmore is a Volkswagen bus. Volkswagen as a company was founded by government charter in 1937…and just *who* was in charge of Germany in 1937?


Extrapolating that into the Planes spinoffs, you have Skipper who is a Vought F4U Corsair, created specifically for naval air warfare against the Japanese.

Meaning that the Fat Man and Little Boy atom bombs must have existed in the Cars universe….and I can’t help but wonder if they too had faces and personalities, like the Bullet Bills of the Mario franchise.

All very "problematic" (I despise that word) by Newthink standards.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

All very "problematic" (I despise that word) by Newthink standards.

Not to mention the “problematic” issues with the writer and director of the original movies

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Getting rid of the Rivers of America and the Liberty Belle also enables them to build over the canal.

If the canal is the issue it can be closed off and portions of the river and island can remain.

I believe getting rid of the ROA is truly long-term thinking that will correct some flawed land planning that took place when MK was being designed back in the 1960s

That’s an opinion not a fact - i think the original planning was much more ambitious and well thought out. You of course can disagree - many people think it was bad planning to have the parking lot separated from the magic kingdom - I think it’s wonderful and makes the park more special.

Those are opinions - not facts.

 

[Stripes]

If the canal is the issue it can be closed off and portions of the river and island can remain.

The Liberty Belle would need to be maintained.

That’s an opinion not a fact - i think the original planning was much more ambitious and well thought out. You of course can disagree - many people think it was bad planning to have the parking lot separated from the magic kingdom - I think it’s wonderful and makes the park more special.

Those are opinions - not facts.

I also don’t think the parking lot being where it is was bad planning. It was excellent planning.

This situation is different.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The Liberty Belle would need to be maintained.

The steamboats are maintained within the park in California, Paris, and Tokyo.

 

[CoasterCowboy67]

I disagree 100% - Disneyland is the poster child and the masterclass in theme park design. The only major issue is how they have neglected parts of Tomorrowland.

Yeah hard disagree. DL’s potpourri of lands make little sense with each other anymore, and Adventure/New Orleans/Critter/Frontier are all mini-lands that jam right into the other with little transition. The park is crammed with rides at the expense of realistic immersion. Zero comparison

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Yeah hard disagree. DL’s potpourri of lands make little sense with each other anymore, and Aventure/New Orleans/Critter/Frontier are all mini-lands that jam right into the other with little transition. The park is crammed with rides at the expense of realistic immersion. Zero comparison

If Disneyland is wrong I don’t want to be right! Haha