News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Tha Realest]

The bright side about the Cars characters not being super integral to the ride means that perhaps someday if the Cars IP is no longer popular, the ride itself can just be reskinned to something else/something original.

 

[KDM31091]

There is outrage because there is no need to rip out anything. They could conceivably add the Cars land and Villains land and maintain the ROA/TSI, or at the very most, shrink it a bit. No one loses in that scenario. They constantly boast about the "blessing of size", but we almost always have to give up at least one attraction to get something new.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

If the concept art is any indicator, the queue is getting moved somewhere else.

I’m thinking after this gets built. The show building could be reused for villains.

Obviously that’s not what I want but I have to think it’s been considered at this point.

 

[TomboyJanet]

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Killing all the cars characters the carnage!

 

[TomboyJanet]

There is outrage because there is no need to rip out anything. They could conceivably add the Cars land and Villains land and maintain the ROA/TSI, or at the very most, shrink it a bit. No one loses in that scenario. They constantly boast about the "blessing of size", but we almost always have to give up at least one attraction to get something new.

Exactly this it's not about the rides even it's about the shrinking setting

 

[DarkMetroid567]

As a random aside, where does the whole “blessing of size” bit come from? Is it a Walt thing? I definitely hadn’t heard it before.

 

[DCLcruiser]

As a random aside, where does the whole “blessing of size” bit come from? Is it a Walt thing? I definitely hadn’t heard it before.

Yea, it refers to WDW not being confined like Anaheim.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

I’m thinking after this gets built. The show building could be reused for villains.

Obviously that’s not what I want but I have to think it’s been considered at this point.

I think there's a near (but not) zero chance that the Mansion gets replaced. It moves too much merchandise, and if you thought people were upset about RoA/TSI or Muppets...

 

[Yellow Strap]

Well that's what I was saying earlier too. Maybe the top portion of the river will be preserved? View attachment 809072

Anything is possible. I like this too

 

[Yellow Strap]

Does having attractions based on movies really add that much to the bottom line? Like if that Cars ride opens tomorrow what percentage increase would they see over sales of cars plushies and blu-rays or whatever?

To me it’s a really backward way of thinking about things that’s stuck in the 80s. Like by the time The guardians of the galaxy attraction opened the series was done and James Gunn has gone on to greener pastures. In a few years it’s just going to be “that coaster based on an old movie” and will just end up dated like the Ellen adventure every passing year.

Same with Star Wars land they tied it so heavily to the sequel trilogy which A) No one was all that crazy about and B)was already OVER by the time the land opened and now they have this land junking up the property that they really don’t know what to do with. It’s telling that the Star Wars hotel was closed and the galaxy’s edge for Paris was quietly cancelled and replaced with lion king.

So...everyone complains that Disney needs to be more like Universal.
They are in the same IP business. Epic U, except for the central coaster, is ALL IPs.

Cars, as a franchise, is still making lots of money for Disney. Carsland is the most popular land in DCA.
The original film made 10 billion in merch sales and they are still releasing new lines of Cars in toy stores.

Guardians is considered the best Marvel Trilogy and a classic. Its not going away.

Star Wars has been around since 1977 and the land can be easily converted to any timeline, which you can see the beginnings of with the Mandalorian added to MF:SR

Disney does a LOT of research and crunches a lot of numbers before choosing the IPs to put in their parks.

 

[hopemax]

As a random aside, where does the whole “blessing of size” bit come from? Is it a Walt thing? I definitely hadn’t heard it before.

It's in the video Walt made announcing "The Florida Project."



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[Disney Analyst]

A lot of people point to the removal of ROA being less about the island, or even the boat ride, and more about the atmosphere and placemaking it creates. I also believe a lot of people find this distasteful as this has always been a quintessential part of the castle parks.

I do want to be a bit optimistic and say, I hope what they build continues the placemaking and atmosphere. Just because the river is gone, does not have to mean that concept goes with it. If this area maintains places to wander into, hidden crevices, quiet areas, it could still achieve what ROA did, while adding more beloved attractions at the same time.

Time will tell, but the dice have been rolled and now we have to hope it doesn't land on snake eyes.

 

[MrPromey]

To me the problem isn't specifically IPs, it's the way they are being used. It feels like Imagineering is being given the hotest IPs, being told which parts of the park are underperforming and being told to just make it work. Look at the descriptions of Encanto and Indy for AK. It's clear that they are forcing an animal element into them to make them "fit" into the park instead of doing something that is a more natural fit for the park, even using other IPs. These sorts of decision seem to tie the hands of the Imagineering and it makes it difficult to do the very careful, well thought out design work that made Disney what it is today.

 

[Incomudro]

A lot of people point to the removal of ROA being less about the island, or even the boat ride, and more about the atmosphere and placemaking it creates. I also believe a lot of people find this distasteful as this has always been a quintessential part of the castle parks.

I do want to be a bit optimistic and say, I hope what they build continues the placemaking and atmosphere. Just because the river is gone, does not have to mean that concept goes with it. If this area maintains places to wander into, hidden crevices, quiet areas, it could still achieve what ROA did, while adding more beloved attractions at the same time.

Time will tell, but the dice have been rolled and now we have to hope it doesn't land on snake eyes.

Conceivably that could be true.
But there is little reason for me to believe Disney will actually do that.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Another thing about this that I think a lot of the cheerleaders are missing. For a significant percentage of our limited natural lifespan on this Earth, MK will be a huge ugly pit. They didn't have to choose this.

ORR... people don't cheer things they don't know enough about yet because they're reasonable and not the rabid monomaniacal boosters you paint them out to be.

 

[danlb_2000]

We have Frozen, where does that go? Magic Kingdom! Right, into Epcot.
Now we have Moana, where does that go? Animal Kingdom! Right, into Epcot.
Guardians of the Galaxy, where does that go? Hollywood Studios! Right, into Epcot.

 

[Incomudro]

Love this video!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Those people applaud EVERYTHING Disney does. They could replace the castle with a giant middle finger and they’d be ok with it. But I don’t think they re the majority.

"Those people"

 

[Quietmouse]

Poll question:

If this ride was not attached to the cars ip, but was rather called “mickeys off road racing”, and the cars were skinned to be old classic looking cars with the same racing wilderness theme would there be less back lash?

Or is this all to do with getting rid of the boat and river ?

 

[Disney Analyst]

Conceivably that could be true.
But there is little reason for me to believe Disney will actually do that.

Absolutely could go the other way, but Josh did mention something about places to explore, so it sounded to me like they'd be including some concepts from TSI into this new area.

Disneyland Paris does something kinda like this, with their Adventureland, as their island is strictly for Big Thunder.