MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[mickEblu]

Whens your trip to wdw again?

It doesn’t look like my wife is going to be able to take the time off work. Too much going on and I don’t really want to go if it’s for less than 9-10 days. It’s just not in the cards for me to go to WDW I guess. Next time I ask for help planning tell me to go kick rocks.

Not going to lie - kind of fantasized about just doing a solo trip to see all the stuff that will be going away soon but know she’d hold it against me for at least 6 months (and rightfully so). Would also feel like a jack@$$ going without the kids. Lol. 2026 was always the plan but a couple months ago I was feeling a little “spontaneous” and thought why not go and see all the attractions that are going away. With potentially lower crowds too becasue we would have been going right before Epic Universe opens. So as of now the idea is 2026 again. Not sure if there is any upside there other than Test Track and HOP being open but who knows what might be down? I guess I can add a day at Epic universe but wasn’t planning on visiting Universal anyway on this trip. And my daughter will be 40 inches tall by then which will make things a lot easier.

Anyway being spontaneous just isn’t in the cards for me I guess. Not at this point in my life. I was a tornado alert away from driving down to WDW from Fort Lauderdale on the last day of my Disney cruise trip in 2023. Our flight back home kept getting delayed to the point where it appeared we were going to be entitled to a reimbursement. Started planning an impromptu trip to WDW as we sat in the parking lot of a hotel near Fort Lauderdale airport waiting for our flight. Literally put WDW in the navigation, exited the parking lot and hit the road when a tornado alert flashed on my phone. But for those 60 seconds I felt so alive. Lol. I’m not even kidding.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

It doesn’t look like my wife is going to be able to take the time off work. Too much going on and I don’t really want to go if it’s for less than 9-10 days. It’s just not in the cards for me to go to WDW I guess. Next time I ask for help planning tell me to go kick rocks.

Not going to lie - kind of fantasized about just doing a solo trip to see all the stuff that will be going away soon but know she’d hold it against me for at least 6 months (and rightfully so). Would also feel like a jack@$$ going without the kids. Lol. 2026 was always the plan but a couple months ago I was feeling a little “spontaneous” and thought why not go and see all the attractions that are going away. With potentially lower crowds too becasue we would have been going right before Epic Universe opens. So as of now the idea is 2026 again. Not sure if there is any upside there other than Test Track and HOP being open but who knows what might be down? I guess I can add a day at Epic universe but wasn’t planning on visiting Universal anyway on this trip. And my daughter will be 40 inches tall by then which will make things a lot easier.

Anyway being spontaneous just isn’t in the cards for me I guess. Not at this point in my life. I was a tornado alert away from driving down to WDW from Fort Lauderdale on the last day of my Disney cruise trip in 2023. Our flight back home kept getting delayed to the point where it appeared we were going to be entitled to a reimbursement. Started planning an impromptu trip to WDW as we sat in the parking lot of a hotel near Fort Lauderdale airport waiting for our flight. Literally put WDW in the navigation, exited the parking lot and hit the road when a tornado alert flashed on my phone.

Aww i’m sorry to hear that.

 

[mickEblu]

Aww i’m sorry to hear that.

Thank you

 

[Centauri Space Station]

Thank you

I guess you won’t be able to see ROA or Dinosaur most likely now. Muppets def not.

 

[mickEblu]

I guess you won’t be able to see ROA or Dinosaur most likely now. Muppets def not.

At least I got to see Muppets at DCA but yeah ROAat Mk and dinosaur are the bigger ones. And the original RnRc. Although the Muppets version intrigues me more would be nice to see the original. Also, I was kind of ok with the rides that would have been down which won’t always be the case. There are a handful that I would not be ok with.


My daughter being 40 inches is a nice perk though as we can avoid a good chunk of rides we’d have to rider switch with our son.

The problem with 2026 is then you start saying well in 2027 Tropical Americas will be open. 2028 (?) the Doors coaster. But if I keep thinking like that I’ll never go. Plus who knows what else they might announce to be replaced in the meantime?

 

[phillip9698]

You mean like the access to concept material for Cars?

Like I said, over-promising and under-delivering.

It’s not overpromising because nothing was being promised! It’s showing things that shouldn’t be shown to the public in the first place.

They are doing it to drum up excitement but they are discounting the fact that the general public has never sat in on projects in the planning phase so they don’t know that pie in the sky concept art is ALMOST NEVER fully realized.

For the company it’s just cool art that gives an idea of what they are going for. But the public takes it as a design document in which any deviation will be seen as a “downgrade”. It’s not having the intended effect.

Don’t believe me? Look at this very board. Anytime concept art is released you have people trying to portray where the queue will be, how walking paths will be layed out, how sight lines will be affected, what technology will be used, etc….. It’s guaranteed disappointment.

Because people didn’t have early peaks into this material decades ago they have no clue how “downgraded” their old favorites were. The shell of the Haunted Mansion sat on top of a hill, chained off, for years before the general public had any idea what it was. That would never happen now.

As an engineer who does this type of work for a living, concept art means almost nothing to me. I really don’t even care until I’m told the approved budget, not the swag budget, the budget that has been signed off on an approved. That’s when I know what’s real and what isn’t.

Disney needs to stop sharing “blue sky” concept art and only share things when they are fully vetted and green lit more akin to what Universal does.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

That has more to do with giving fans access to concept material than anything else. Thats something Disney needs to dial back.

If you had access to early concept material to fan favorites built decades ago you would see they also went through numerous "downgrades" before completion.

Exactly, this is part of what I've been trying to say- if they didn't announce things so early and show off early development concept art, people wouldn't be disappointed by cuts or "downgrades". Like, they showed off that first (quickly put together imo) concept art for TBA with the boat in the tree on the top before they likely even did R&D to see if that was possible, so when the attraction switched to having a smooth hilltop, people said "oh they're already downgrading it/cutting budgets" when in reality the budget likely didn't change (though who knows how Covid affected things) and they just realized three big tree on the top wasn't feasible. If they had never shown that art so early people wouldn't have ever known. What're the odds that the Monsters Inc coaster will have four loading tracks as shown and not be downsized to less? Or that Cars will have this big mountain with a huge, landscaped area with a secondary attraction? In some cases, like the Mary Poppins area at Epcot, I assume they fully intended to build that but Covid affected things. That's not really an excuse anymore though, so if things are "downgraded" it could all be avoided by just not announcing projects until they're at a point where they won't change much. But I feel like they show these things so early to boost their stock value more than anything else. Hype doesn't equal instant cash/customer spending after all- especially with theme park.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

There are futuristic rocks used in Tomorrowland (aka discovery land) in Paris. While I would personally like to see wreck it Ralph go to the speedway area and cover the theming of both Tomorrowland and Fantasyland - cars could work as well.

The speedway at MK is not charming like Anaheim and Paris - a cars themed replacement (perhaps an autopia style AND a thrill ride) would make lots of sense in that space.

I've been big on this idea as well (at least for MK)- have the Fantasyland-facing side be themed to Sugar Rush and the Tomorrowland-facing side be the Game Central Station or whatever the plug tech world thing was called haha. Plus, Walt wanted a Candy Mountain in Fantasyland, so Sugar Rush would be a great homage to that.

Either this, or use the Fantasyland side of the Speedway to make a modern Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. Ralph is probably more likely though lol

 

[Bocabear]

Can you imagine the presentation for the Epcot overhaul if it was based on what we actually got? lol
Flex Space? You are tearing down a huge building for a flex space cafeteria building?

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Because people didn’t have early peaks into this material decades ago they have no clue how “downgraded” their old favorites were. The shell of the Haunted Mansion sat on top of a hill, chained off, for years before the general public had any idea what it was. That would never happen now.

It never would, but it'd be cool as [the ending to Mr. Toad]. Imagine them just constructing a mysterious facade and people speculating on what it is... they could totally do this with the Villains land, although we know the land, people could speculate on what all the buildings and attractions are. Wishful thinking, I know, since they'll probably announce things too early for stock value before they finalize plans.

 

[Bocabear]

I have always thought that Sugar Rush would have been a charming addition visually...especially with the speedway skirting the edge of Fantasyland. It would have been a fun transition between lands....But now it would have Tron looming over it... Not sure it would work as well.....

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

Beyond the absolute mistake of removing Rivers of America, I have a huge problem with Cars going into Frontierland. Animated cartoon style bears and alligators are hidden inside an attraction. Mater and company will not be, destroying the feel of the area. And I like the Cars franchise!

 

[Disstevefan1]

The spin was what was the rewording of my original statement.

Yes, sharing the concept art is part of the problem. They're selling that reveal at D23.

Either way, they're in control. They are the ones setting the expectations. They are the ones failing to live up to them.

This is so true. They need to stop showing concepts, maybe just describe in words what they think they want to do.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

This is so true. They need to stop showing concepts, maybe just describe in words what they think they want to do.

Without concept art though they have nothing to "present" at the D23 presentations. Words are empty. But as we've seen and learned... concept art is equally so. Honestly, I think they'd be better off just nixing D23. That's the bigger issue.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Without concept art though they have nothing to "present" at the D23 presentations. Words are empty. But as we've seen and learned... concept art is equally so. Honestly, I think they'd be better off just nixing D23. That's the bigger issue.

Well they MAKE MONEY from D23, maybe just nix the dog and pony show presentation part and do the rest.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Without concept art though they have nothing to "present" at the D23 presentations. Words are empty. But as we've seen and learned... concept art is equally so. Honestly, I think they'd be better off just nixing D23. That's the bigger issue.

Disney announcing projects early in the design process predates the D23 Expo by decades. Go check out the 1958 Disneyland fun map that was sold in the park as a souvenir.

 

[plutofan15]

Sometimes I think about putting people like them on my ignore list, but then I think of how entertaining they can be. It must make them feel so important, with the bullying and personal attacks, but it just makes them look like pathetic idiots. And most of these people are the kind that would love to assume the position under Bob Iger's desk.

I can think of a few here who belong on this list! But, as you said, the comic value is just too great.

 

[plutofan15]

This is so true. They need to stop showing concepts, maybe just describe in words what they think they want to do.

Concept Art is essentially the visual representation of an idea before it is developed into a final product.

Concept art is not meant to be the literal version of what becomes the final product.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Concept Art is essentially the visual representation of an idea before it is developed into a final product.

Concept art is not meant to be the literal version of what becomes the final product.

THATS FOR SURE! - But it sets expectations (for some) and that's what makes concepts misleading.

I have learned that WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT WE ARE GETTING UNTIL AFTER IT OPENS!

 

[plutofan15]

THATS FOR SURE!

Point being, far too many people get bent out of shape when the final product varies even the slightest from the concept art.