JackCH
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Wait... I get having that opinion on Cars... but you would be happy if they cancelled Villains Land?? Why?
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MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom
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joanna71985
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I don't think it will be forgotten
wbostic12
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- In the Parks
- No
I would be okay with a DL shrinking of the ROA that preserves the ambiance and allows for whatever kind of expansion they want.
Agent H
Active Member
Clearly they would prefer the rivers stay even if it means villains doesn’t happen I remain skeptical the cars project will provide better ambience than the rivers of America I would rather have villains personally but I totally understand being upset I was shocked when it was announced that they were paving over the river I had never even considered that a possibility
mickEblu
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You know how people do that thing where they say Disney doesn’t care about something if they can’t prove it makes money on a spreadsheet? Obliterating the ROA for a Cars ride at a property with a gazillion acres is the ugliest, most shocking and crystal clear example of that I could imagine.
Agent H
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No the most ugliest shocking and crystal clear example of that would be be obliterating the castle for a roller coaster
wbostic12
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- In the Parks
- No
New idea for a thread:the worst thing Disney could doNo the most ugliest shocking and crystal clear example of that would be be obliterating the castle for a roller coaster
JackCH
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I get it if people would be happy if Cars was cancelled and instead RoA was just reduced to make way for Villains. But, if cancelling Cars means Villains would also be cancelled then I would not want that to happen.
If Cars is even just somewhere between "Okay" and "Good," and Villains is between "Great" and "Amazing," then I would take that one-two punch over RoA any day.
If Cars is even just somewhere between "Okay" and "Good," and Villains is between "Great" and "Amazing," then I would take that one-two punch over RoA any day.
mickEblu
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No the most ugliest shocking and crystal clear example of that would be be obliterating the castle for a roller coaster
Haha I think this is worse in some ways. That’s a big chunk of land responsible for the ambiance on one whole side of the park.
mickEblu
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Why does cancelling Cars mean Villains would also have to be cancelled? In my ideal scenario the ROA’s front half would survive and they’d build Villains north of that. But if having Villains land means that the entire ROA has to go then I’d prefer they cancel it all.
JackCH
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I don't think it does necessarily, but I'm responding to the couple comments above that seemed to indicate it would be good if Villains were cancelled to save RoA. And my point is if I had to choose between having to either get Cars and Villains or RoA, I would take the former without question. And to be honest, especially if they are both done well, I don't really see how the ambiance of RoA outweighs 2-3 major attractions and potentially a really cool land.
But, your "ideal scenario" would be my preference as well, along with Cars going into DHS. I just don't think that is going to happen.
Agent H
Active Member
Yes I agree that that is the ideal scenario minus cars going into Hollywood Studios I’d rather cars land stay in California adventure
mickEblu
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Oh just asking because i remember that claim was made at some point a few weeks ago but i don’t remember anyone really backing it up with any solid reasoning or explanation.
Agent H
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Because Disney is too lazy and cheap to do the work to get us to it without filling in the entire thing you of all people should know this
mickEblu
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Lol. Why can’t they build a path near HM to Villains land?
JackCH
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Yeah, I don't think there is any reason they could just do what they did at DL with SWGE.
I'm not as attached to RoA though. So I don't even mind removing it. I would have just done something other than Cars personally.
Agent H
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I imagine the pitch meeting went something like this the imagineers sit down with vale and Josh and present a really complex reworking of the paths to get people to villains land vale hm this is going to cost my division a lot of money what if we fill in the entire river and get 1 or 2 new attractions out of it josh that’s the brilliant idea I’ve heard in days! And so the imagineer’s walk away depressed with a mandate to replace the rivers of America with 2 new attractions one a e or d ticket the other some type of flat ride of course it must be based on a ip and a super popular one at that so no Pocahontas or anything that actually fits Frontierland and what do they come to why cars of course! (I do not blame the imagineers for any of this)
Agent H
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Uh no what I described would definitely be a 6 flags line of thinking and I hate 6 flags and I’ve never even been to one of their parks!
Agent H
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1. Because liberty square has too many things along its side of the riverfront 2. See posts 8,334 and 8,337
James Alucobond
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They mean that it would not be executed as currently planned because it would alter the available footprint significantly, particularly if you want to keep the Liberty Belle actually running. Cutting into the Rivers of America too close to the Haunted Mansion or Big Thunder ruins the illusion that it extends far beyond the park, which is a big part of its visual power in the first place. If you cram access next to the Haunted Mansion, you’ll have a narrow chokepoint trying to accommodate two-way traffic when part of the impetus for the update is to eliminate the Big Thunder dead end and improve circulation.
It’s not that a villains section in the area becomes impossible; it’s that you can’t just tell them to delete Cars from the current plan and otherwise carry on.