News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[John park hopper]

No track--drive your own car--sounds like bumper car land to me --could be fun, a little dangerous

 

[fgmnt]

Oh, god - the park ops transportation and logistics are going to spawn a hundred research papers. It really will be a challenge.

I've had a harebrained idea that they need to at least discuss the possibility of a north entrance/exit through the villains expansion. Bus plaza + some kind of super-preferred parking.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Not really. Two different concepts entirely. The "draw" of the Speedway is driving you own car - being in control and all that.

I think the Speedway is bad and should be replaced, but it doesn't become redundant by this.

Also, Cars isn't about cars. The cars are the characters but like... Steamboat Willie isn't a film about mice, it's a film about a sailor. The cars are the "actors" in whatever genre of story they want to tell, including a Western.

Cars is like Zootopia, and the reason Zootopia doesn't belong in Animal Kingdom is the same reason why Cars CAN fit in Frontierland.

 

[ftblgenius]

I have no attachment to ROA or TSI (although I enjoy the scenery). However, Disney is showing they will do anything they can to not increase capacity. They just keep replacing it. Attendance may be down right now, but as we've seen in recent years, they need the additional capacity for crowd management.

 

[doctornick]

liberty square is gonna be fine, I mean wdwmagic himself was hinting at a muppets HOP replacement

That's... not a good thing. That only compounds these issues.

 

[lightningtap347]

I know this can be thrown around a lot, but this is going to be the breaking point for a lot of people…

The ten people who visit the island?

 

[PREMiERdrum]

Not that it's going to make people feel any better, but this was one of the costlier options pitched, and makes a broad attempt to fit the area better than most others.

Now that word is out and the dust is settling, a little more information is slipping through.

Once their original BBTM plans were scrapped, Coco's massive showbuilding precluded it from being relocated. Cars won, the ROA's fate was sealed.

Villains - despite being a disparate collection of ideas even to this date - was by far the favorite to win over the singular BBTM expansion plot. The art as shown is suggestive of theme and style but not related to a practical model. Yet.

 

[Aramar]

I wouldn't mind loosing the island and getting a reduced river, but completely removing the river is a terrible idea in my opinion. The boats sailing are an iconic image for me for Frontierland

 

[lentesta]

I had some hope that the pendulum might be swinging in the other direction on this. The American Adventure came out of its refurb unmolested. And the Spaceship Earth refurb, which was motivated by a lot of the reasoning you alluded to (have you seen the ride-through?), was abandoned.

I think the things keeping American Adventure from a substantial update are:

1. It's huge, so updates would be super-expensive. And I'm not sure they're convinced there's an ROI.
2. No matter what you change, half the country would be upset.

Looking at Hall of Presidents, I mean, where does it go from here? What could Disney possibly do to it to make it an actual draw with guests while maintaining anything like its current narrative?

Or put another way: would you trade Hall of Presidents as it is, for a Muppets version of American history?

 

[the_rich]

I have no attachment to ROA or TSI (although I enjoy the scenery). However, Disney is showing they will do anything they can to not increase capacity. They just keep replacing it. Attendance may be down right now, but as we've seen in recent years, they need the additional capacity for crowd management.

This will increase capacity

 

[IMDREW]

Not that it's going to make people feel any better, but this was one of the costlier options pitched, and makes a broad attempt to fit the area better than most others.

Now that word is out and the dust is settling, a little more information is slipping through.

Once their original BBTM plans were scrapped, Coco's massive showbuilding precluded it from being relocated. Cars won, the ROA's fate was sealed.

Villains - despite being a disparate collection of ideas even to this date - was by far the favorite to win over the singular BBTM expansion plot. The art as shown is suggestive of theme and style but not related to a practical model. Yet.

But why not just Villains land and skip the cars of whatever else they were planning?

 

[lentesta]

I've had a harebrained idea that they need to at least discuss the possibility of a north entrance/exit through the villains expansion. Bus plaza + some kind of super-preferred parking.

It's worth exploring. EPCOT has two, and one is for the hotels.

 

[monothingie]

With this concept art it makes the area seem seem very vast and expansive, but just being here in person looking at it, the cars area, with 2 attractions, seems kind of small.

 

[wdwmagic]

The water is beautiful and I love walking this at night during fireworks, but it's mostly unused and the park needs capacity.

I think this will have been the argument internally, and is ultimately difficult to overlook.

 

[JustInTime]

But why not just Villains land and skip the cars of whatever else they were planning?

Because it’s close to impossible get a huge volume of people back to the villains land. They’d have to take out a huge portion of ROA and TSI anyway.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I think the things keeping American Adventure from a substantial update are:

1. It's huge, so updates would be super-expensive. And I'm not sure they're convinced there's an ROI.
2. No matter what you change, half the country would be upset.

Looking at Hall of Presidents, I mean, where does it go from here? What could Disney possibly do to it to make it an actual draw with guests while maintaining anything like its current narrative?

Or put another way: would you trade Hall of Presidents as it is, for a Muppets version of American history?

Oh no doubt, Hall of Presidents sucks. It already feels like a worse version of AA, and it never really belonged in Magic Kingdom.

I don't love Muppets but I'd be very happy for them to take over that theater.

I was more referencing whether Disney feels compelled to abandon American History as a setting for fictional storytelling.

 

[the_rich]

I think the things keeping American Adventure from a substantial update are:

1. It's huge, so updates would be super-expensive. And I'm not sure they're convinced there's an ROI.
2. No matter what you change, half the country would be upset.

Looking at Hall of Presidents, I mean, where does it go from here? What could Disney possibly do to it to make it an actual draw with guests while maintaining anything like its current narrative?

Or put another way: would you trade Hall of Presidents as it is, for a Muppets version of American history?

Yea..give me the muppets lol

 

[lentesta]

@lentesta , now you are just starting trouble on the boards...... It is fun though.

Ha! Not my intent. But what's left in Liberty Square after Cars and Haunted Mansion becoming the entrance to Villains? Just HOP.

 

[Disstevefan1]

World Showcase Lagoon does seem like it has huge potential for new Lands...

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Unless someone answered this...With this taking for over TSI...What is the fate of the Liberty belle Riverboat?