News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Totally agree. Took my sister to MK a few months ago when she was visiting. She is not a Disney fan, but fell in love with IASW. We couldn't find any IASW merch. I even asked at a few shops only to be told "Not sure" or similar. Not one CM made an effort to find out. One of my kids found a pin eventually , but in a different park. Looked online later and could only find merch on Etsy and Amazon.

You’d think Small World merch would be especially easy to make- just do tiny dolls!

 

[BuzzedPotatoHead89]

This won’t come across the way I intend but o well…There are so many waterfront options in the REAL world across the US and within the WDW bubble but you know what we just can’t seem to find in all but one place in this entire country???? Any parks outside of California that have a Cars ride that we can all enjoy!!!

While I don’t necessarily agree I suspect this argument does curry favor with TDO planners. There are multiple resort activities at WDW that have opportunities to relax and unwind.

Want a prolonged quiet time away from the hustle and bustle of of E-ticket IP-laden rides? You can go to the hotel pool/water slide, or take a ride on the skyliner, round of golf (from expert to mini golf), even take a ride on an amphibious car or hot air balloon at Disney Springs.

But - it’s becoming increasingly clear: Theme Parks on WDW property are for maximizing your time 1) riding “the popular” rides; and 2) consuming food and buying merch in between LL return times.

Prolonged breaks and R&R should be spent using the other WDW resort amenities outside the park. Which is what luxury resorts and DVCs are for…

 

[Stripes]

I honestly don’t know how they would’ve expanded ”Beyond Big Thunder“ by building along the edges of the river without ruining the aesthetic of the Rivers of America anyway. They would’ve needed to craft the sight line in Frontierland (blocking views of the river) to prevent guests from seeing Villains from Frontierland.

 

[psherman42]

Crazy how many people “liked” this comment. He’s 12 and is able to comprehend that for the price of the “River” and an Island he never has a desire to visit that we are getting 1) Cars in the MK, 2) Villains Land, and 3) the possibility of another land beyond BTMRR.

This won’t come across the way I intend but o well…There are so many waterfront options in the REAL world across the US and within the WDW bubble but you know what we just can’t seem to find in all but one place in this entire country???? Any parks outside of California that have a Cars ride that we can all enjoy!!!

I get it. It’s an awesome spot and at night there’s not many places like it. But why try to derail their plans for your own satisfaction? They can’t please everyone but it sure seems there’s a very vocal portion of the fan base that feel Disney NEEDS to please them specifically.

But they could put the Cars ride somewhere else on property and he would enjoy it just as much as if it were in Frontierland. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. That way, the people can still enjoy RoA AND new lands. People in this thread have proposed their own ideas that keep the front of the river and then new lands behind it. Why can’t everybody win?

 

[Wall-e]

While I don’t necessarily agree I suspect this argument does curry favor with TDO planners. There are multiple resort activities at WDW that have opportunities to relax and unwind.

Want a prolonged quiet time away from the hustle and bustle of of E-ticket IP-laden rides? You can go to the hotel pool/water slide, or take a ride on the skyliner, round of golf (from expert to mini golf), even take a ride on an amphibious car or hot air balloon at Disney Springs.

But - it’s becoming increasingly clear: Theme Parks on WDW property are for maximizing your time 1) riding “the popular” rides; and 2) consuming food and buying merch in between LL return times.

Prolonged breaks and R&R should be spent using the other WDW resort amenities outside the park. Which is what luxury resorts and DVCs are for…

This. I can think of so many areas that evoke a similar feeling that involve a walkway, lighting, water, boats, and rides.

Walking from an Epcot area resort to HS.

Same for walking to Epcot from BC or BW.

Any walk along 7SL or Bay Lake.

Port Orleans Riverside boardwalk.

Anyone have any others that aren’t ROA?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Crazy how many people “liked” this comment. He’s 12 and is able to comprehend that for the price of the “River” and an Island he never has a desire to visit

When I was 12 I didn’t have a desire to ride the steamboat when we visited Disney (actually we didn’t visit that year… so when I was 11! Haha) but after multiple visits in my young and now middle adult life it’s one of my favorites.

But why try to derail their plans for your own satisfaction?

Or why not both!? I mean if I’m selfish for wanting the riverboat to stay doesn’t that mean the other side is selfish for wanting cars to fully replace it?

 

[Wall-e]

But they could put the Cars ride somewhere else on property and he would enjoy it just as much as if it were in Frontierland. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. That way, the people can still enjoy RoA AND new lands. People in this thread have proposed their own ideas that keep the front of the river and then new lands behind it. Why can’t everybody win?

According to those in the know around here it does have to be there for a number of reasons. These are my favorite.

To balance out Villians Land. (Something for the youngins to do and to have something to eat crowds)

To eliminate choke points for the crowds expected to come to Villians and Beyond BTM.

To reinvent what we know of the Haunted Mansion/Liberty Square area.

 

[DisneyHead123]

But - it’s becoming increasingly clear: Theme Parks on WDW property are for maximizing your time 1) riding “the popular” rides; and 2) consuming food and buying merch in between LL return times.

If that’s what people wanted most out of theme parks, Kings Dominion and Cedar Point would be competing with Disney as the most profitable parks.

 

[Wall-e]

When I was 12 I didn’t have a desire to ride the steamboat when we visited Disney (actually we didn’t visit that year… so when I was 11! Haha) but after multiple visits in my young and now middle adult life it’s one of my favorites.

Or why not both!? I mean if I’m selfish for wanting the riverboat to stay doesn’t that mean the other side is selfish for wanting cars to fully replace it?

No because I assume the Imagineers have a vision for this area and trying to Frankenstein a portion of a waterfront into what looks to be a frontier valley to satiate their need to keep what’s familiar to them is IMO selfish.

The concept does show water in the back near BTM. Theres the compromise as I see it. That and the water features

 

[psherman42]

According to those in the know around here it does have to be there for a number of reasons. These are my favorite.

To balance out Villians Land. (Something for the youngins to do and to have something to eat crowds)

To eliminate choke points for the crowds expected to come to Villians and Beyond BTM.

To reinvent what we know of the Haunted Mansion/Liberty Square area.

If they were able to find a way to make it work at Disneyland with Galaxy’s Edge, they could have figured it out for WDW too.

 

[peter11435]

If they were able to find a way to make it work at Disneyland with Galaxy’s Edge, they could have figured it out for WDW too.

There are many differences.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

If they were able to find a way to make it work at Disneyland with Galaxy’s Edge, they could have figured it out for WDW too.

About a month ago I told someone who’s only seen galaxies edge in Florida that “the best part about Star Wars in California is the rivers of America - it improved the park so much more than adding the Star Wars area did”

 

[CoasterCowboy67]

You need to just stop with this argument while you're behind and pivot to something else.

The river bed does not have to support the weight of the water. It's not a bowl.

They don't have to pump water into it. If they did, they wouldn't need to build a temporary dam and pump the water out for parts of it, they'd simply just drain it. [I've been corrected on some of this further down the thread] The gravitational pull you mentioned in your own statement gets the water where it needs to go.

Leaks don't matter for retaining the water. This isn't a swimming pool someone filled with a hose.

Put it this way - what do you think happens if you dig a hole next to a lake that goes below the waterline of the lake?

Do you know?

I'm pretty sure Disney's engineers know.

Seven Seas lagoon, connected to the ROA by a canal does not have a cement bottom but it's also not a natural body of water, either. The reason that doesn't just run dry is the same reason the cement doesn't have to hold all that water in ROA. At worst, water over time seeping through the cement has the ability to erode it and over a long enough period without mitigation efforts as a part of planned maintenance, it's possible that could jeopardize the integrity of the parts anchoring the track but as has already previously been mentioned, they didn't need to anchor the track to an entire bed of cement to begin with so any potential problem there is not what you're making it out to be and the solution, if they didn't want to preserve the full cement bottom would not need to be much more dramatic than when someone wants to put a dock pretty much anywhere in water that doesn't have a man-made bottom. They wouldn't even technically need to drain ROA to do it though for speed quality and cost, they probably would since they have the ability to control it enough to do that.

Ok. I cant explain physics to you. If you want to believe water is weightless, that we live in zero gravity, that concrete structures last forever, or that their deterioration doesn’t compromise the reason they were built in the first place, go for it

If you want to believe that a college professor with connections to Disney leadership is (wrong? misinformed? deliberately peddling Disney propaganda?) go for it

 

[psherman42]

There are many differences.

Of course there are differences. But that doesn’t mean that they couldn’t have figured out some sort of solution to make it work.

 

[MickMinn22]

Been waiting to post and let the announcement sink in for a little. I am still just as excited as when it was announced. I rode the riverboat last time I was at WDW in April and all I could think was they could do so much with this space. It was a very busy day in the park and both the boat and island were nearly empty. To keep our little one entertained we were constantly walking around the boat and all the levels. So many people looked bored and most people were lined up to get off the boat well before we got close to HM.

I think Disney still builds beautifully themed lands and hope the ride and land are more of a natural park feel with a cars ride in it. Honestly, not excited about the piston peak in the concept art but the rest looks like it could have a natural beauty feel to it.

Also if there was such a desire for attractions and lands like this in a theme park, why doesn’t epic universe have something like this going in?

 

[peter11435]

Of course there are differences. But that doesn’t mean that they couldn’t have figured out some sort of solution to make it work.

And there were none that made sense

 

[BuzzedPotatoHead89]

If that’s what people wanted most out of theme parks, Kings Dominion and Cedar Point would be competing with Disney as the most profitable parks.

I agree, but Walt Disney World is selling the “Resort” aspect and the FOMO part of missing out on the biggest new rides to the market.

The intangibles that historically differentiated the park are just that… intangible. But from a sheer/cold business marketing and balance sheet standpoint it’s a proverbial “tree falling in the forest”. There’s no KPI performance metric for it, and it doesn’t move DVC/timeshares or in park per capita spending numbers.

 

[plutofan15]

Yeah, that's what happens when care isn't taken to maintain something...

As an engineer, I can assure you that everything has a lifespan regardless of how it may be maintained. At some point a structure will either fail or become far too expensive/labor intensive to repair or maintain.

 

[TheRealSkull]

I bet those people who were begging that a Cars Land clone wouldn't be built in DHS would much rather prefer that now as opposed to what has been announced.

Man just think if it had been this way: Galaxy's Edge in Echo Lake/Indiana Jones area expanding out into the parking lot. Toy Story Land where it is now. Cars Land where Galaxy's Edge currently sits. Monsters Inc Land where Animation Courtyard is. Hollywood Studios would have been a full day park by then. Then we could have just had Villains Land and all would have been fine.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

No because I assume the Imagineers have a vision

This is not part of Imagineers vision - this is a mandate from above.

Now I am certain the imagineers will do their best with that mandate, although parts of the Epcot expansion make me wonder on basic design skills.