rle4lunch
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Yep, we usually will do 5 just in case we need a "pick-up" day for the rides that were down or we missed LL on the first day.
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Dizknee_Phreek
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100% this. TSI and the riverboat were every bit as repeatable as any other attraction in WDW. Maybe not everyone viewed it as a must do every visit, but that doesn't mean no one did or that the attractions had no value outside of a one time visit. I feel like this is a result of FP/LL and, as you said, timing. MK has the most to do out of any park, but only so much time to do it. I don't know all the in's and out's of the problems vs solutions with all of this. But to say these attractions weren't repeatable or that there was nothing to do on TSI isn't based on facts.
SobchakSecurity
Member
After reading through this 162-page thread, I've started to reach the acceptance stage, where I begin to think about how in a perfect world they can make this work (note I said perfect world):
Frontierland becomes a logging/mining town, I'm thinking something aesthetically similar to Red Dead Redemption 2's town of Strawberry. There will have to be running water with new buildings across from the current strip, with mills and water wheels that actually turn, along with a large number of props. I don't know how they'll deal with the transition to Tiana's, but if that ride system continues to have issues perhaps it won't last more than a decade (we can dream anyway).
Liberty Square will have to be enclosed, with buildings on the current water line abutting a small running stream, akin to small towns in Vermont or New Hampshire. These new buildings could actually be copies of the buildings in the Cape Cod section of Tokyo DisneySea (I know they are waterfront buildings, but colonial New England buildings are nondescript enough to exist both on the coast and inland). The new mountain can rise behind them the same way Mount Prometheus rises above them in Tokyo.
A big question of mine is the parade route. For this new Frontierland to work the path needs to be narrower and filled with props/scenery/etc. Does the parade route take that new path in front of the Haunted Mansion and then turn south by Big Thunder and then in front of Tiana's to the current parade storage building? Can the floats handle inclines or do they need a flat route? With the difference in elevation between the river bottom and the existing pathways, they can build walkways on the old river bottom that go under a new parade route, finally allowing circulation in the western half of the park during parades.
Is the canal where they keep the Electrical Water Pageant floats large enough for the resort launches to travel in? The little bit of the river remaining near Big Thunder could allow for a new dock for the Poly and Grand Floridian. Hell, they can even leave the EWP floats lit up for everyone to see as they go by.
Frontierland becomes a logging/mining town, I'm thinking something aesthetically similar to Red Dead Redemption 2's town of Strawberry. There will have to be running water with new buildings across from the current strip, with mills and water wheels that actually turn, along with a large number of props. I don't know how they'll deal with the transition to Tiana's, but if that ride system continues to have issues perhaps it won't last more than a decade (we can dream anyway).
Liberty Square will have to be enclosed, with buildings on the current water line abutting a small running stream, akin to small towns in Vermont or New Hampshire. These new buildings could actually be copies of the buildings in the Cape Cod section of Tokyo DisneySea (I know they are waterfront buildings, but colonial New England buildings are nondescript enough to exist both on the coast and inland). The new mountain can rise behind them the same way Mount Prometheus rises above them in Tokyo.
A big question of mine is the parade route. For this new Frontierland to work the path needs to be narrower and filled with props/scenery/etc. Does the parade route take that new path in front of the Haunted Mansion and then turn south by Big Thunder and then in front of Tiana's to the current parade storage building? Can the floats handle inclines or do they need a flat route? With the difference in elevation between the river bottom and the existing pathways, they can build walkways on the old river bottom that go under a new parade route, finally allowing circulation in the western half of the park during parades.
Is the canal where they keep the Electrical Water Pageant floats large enough for the resort launches to travel in? The little bit of the river remaining near Big Thunder could allow for a new dock for the Poly and Grand Floridian. Hell, they can even leave the EWP floats lit up for everyone to see as they go by.
DarkMetroid567
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Yeah, the “_-day” thing is hard to gauge.
I can usually finish any theme park I want to in half a day. It is my firm belief that the only true 1-day parks in the world (that I’ve visited) are Disneyland, Tokyo Disneyland, and Europa-Park.
EPCOTCenterLover
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It will become another overpriced restaurant with hard to get reservations- but it will be marketed to old time fans of THEME parks who like what used to be. Someone like me.
el_super
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Which is what?
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
Probably not.
Probably not.
They won't change the parade route. Part of the reason this is going where it is is because they would need to remove all the infrastructure backstage (part of which is the parade storage) if they built out the other way.
Guests will not be traveling on the canal.
TrainsOfDisney
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In general I get your point but this is not true.
DCLcruiser
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So, why don't they park the Liberty Belle in Lake Buena Vista at Disney Springs and insert an ESPN Bet Sportsbook lounge? Ozark style.
Grantwil93
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Epcot with rope drop is more of a half day park for me than DAK if I factor in shows and walking trails. Showcase walk only take like 90 minutes if I'm really slowly doing stores.
Nothing takes all day in Orlando unless you truly are doing every single thing possible and you are bad at planning. Even MK
Quietmouse
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I find that hard to believe. The lines alone on crowded days make that very difficult to believe
hopemax
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Really?
What is happening now. People who don't want to play Hunger Games games go to Europe, or a cruise. They don't go to WDW at all. Not even the MK. Theme park itches by kids when visiting Grandma in FL, get itched by one of the other options that doesn't require Hunger Games games to experience.
Incomudro
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But you don't build for the majority.
That's creating down.
The majority doesn't know what's good.
You build, create etc., and hopefully the people recognize it.
deeevo
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Next to the paddle boat that is already there?
el_super
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It's a great time to travel internationally. Doesn't really have anything to do with the content of the park. Unless you're suggesting they are just tired of the quintessential Disney experience, and we DO need to look at replacing the castle.
TrainsOfDisney
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All depends on how you experience the parks too. The seas can be 10 minutes of waiting and riding the Nemo ride or it can be 60+ minutes experiencing the aquarium, watching a dolphin presentation, turtle talk, etc.
I’ve also been told the number of attractions I’ve experienced is “near impossible” without LL and yet I did it without even trying haha.
Advisable Joseph
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I'm literally having trouble parsing this sentence.
Is it
There's something ...for another park. (I.e. the project will not be here)
Or
... for fans for another park. (I.e. for fans of another park.)
Is this project connected to
And, finally, is the project thematicly related to "Muppets"?
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disneylandtour
Active Member
Let me just throw this out there--one of the reasons DCA's Carsland is so detailed and complete is because John Lasseter protected the project through development. I'm not sure the WDW version would have the same level of theming without a very high up exec walking the project through from start to finish and insisting that the project have few, if any, cuts based on cost.
Quietmouse
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I'm literally having trouble parsing this sentence.
Is it
There's something ...for another park. (I.e. the project will not be in MK)
Or
... for fans for another park. (I.e. for fans of DHS, etc.)
Is this project connected to
And, finally, is the project thematicly related to RoA, if it is to soften the blow? Or did you mean "Muppets"?
I have to imagine it’s the rumored aliens film conversion to the stitch space.
It will probably slightly soften the blow for those upset about losing tsi and the boat.
Grantwil93
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Let me be clear, I treat the half day criteria like people treat it with DAK. I.e I did 4 rides i wanted and it's 2:30pm.
If I do everything at epcot. It takes all day for me on a typical attendance day. But that includes showcase movies and other stuff. If I just want Rat, Frozen, Guardians, Soarin, and test track, then I'm done by 2pm ish if I rope drop and my Guardians time is good.
Dak takes me all day too if I'm going to rafiki, doing the animal trails, doing all 3 shows, doing every ride, etc.