Rebuild. Not update. Only the cars and launch tech were a true update.
Dragons would have gotten the same treatment had it remained. Even with a new style of car or a like for like swap. Nearly did too.
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Can the East Coast Marvel Problem Really Be Solved? (Discussion)
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Dragons would have gotten the same treatment had it remained. Even with a new style of car or a like for like swap. Nearly did too.
_caleb
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Thought of this post as I'm reading the rumors that the 3rd MCU Spider-Man movie possibly being set in the multi-verse, being directed by Sam Raimi, and featuring
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Just like there's marketing synergy in Disney Princesses©™, so too, will there be in Disney/Marvel Spider-Men©™!
UNCgolf
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If I could go back in time and talk to my past self a year ago today, I'm pretty sure that I'd have a harder time believing that Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield were returning to play Spider-Man alongside Tom Holland in a new film that I would believing that a global pandemic had forced Disney to close for months.
What times we live in.
Trackmaster
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That was my point. I don't know why they just rebuilt from the ground up (including footers) a very mediocre 90s B&M design. A modern design should have been lapbars only, had ejector airtime, at inversions that were interesting and not just stock cobra rolls, corkscrews, loops, etc (the 0 G roll is great, but that's about the highlight of the ride right there). Look at what they're doing with VelociCoaster. That's what you need to be doing in the modern age. An interesting ride that actually has an interesting layout and that's well balanced.
I could understand keeping a ride around that's a little dated because you've already invested in it. But why pour that much money into a ground up 90's style ride?
Because substantial changes would make the IP contract void.
danlb_2000
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First time I have heard that. Based on what is in the contract I am not sure how that would have been an issue.
Club Cooloholic
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Universal has no reason to give up the IP they have currently. It's a thorn in Disney's side that they have to work around.
They have to maintain to a set standard but can’t alter beyond the original design intent. Same way they couldn’t turn The Hulk into a dark ride.
Club Cooloholic
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They of course are allowed to make substantial changes to the Marvel Island, but they need Marvel(Disney) approval. These changes would not be allowed to use design and look of Characters from the films Disney owns.
Honestly, they should do some updates to the Doom drop and Storm ride. In order to keep the IP they have to keep everything in good upkeep.
Club Cooloholic
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Again as was asked where are you getting this? I haven't read anything about the contract excluding a hulk dark ride.
As in they couldn’t demolish the rollercoaster and replace it with a dark ride of the same IP.
Club Cooloholic
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Where is that said in the contract?
I didn’t read the contract for this. I asked.
Club Cooloholic
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I read it as a statement, questions usually end with a ? at the end of the sentence.
They can make it whatever they want as long as they work with Marvel and it doesn't diminish the product. I guess they could have said to Uni they think it would be wrong to take away a popular coaster. They did work with them on the coaster redesign. I think in regards to Storm's ride there would be little to argue in replacing it.
This is a good article talking about the changes that are allowed or not and how it all works according to the contract.
That Darn Marvel Contract - What Rights Does Universal and Disney Own
We examine the contract and explain what rights each resort has for the use in Theme Parks.
www.insideuniversal.net
Okay.I read it as a statement, questions usually end with a ? at the end of the sentence.
They can make it whatever they want as long as they work with Marvel and it doesn't diminish the product. I guess they could have said to Uni they think it would be wrong to take away a popular coaster. They did work with them on the coaster redesign. I think in regards to Storm's ride there would be little to argue in replacing it.
This is a good article talking about the changes that are allowed or not and how it all works according to the contract.
That Darn Marvel Contract - What Rights Does Universal and Disney Own
We examine the contract and explain what rights each resort has for the use in Theme Parks.
Club Cooloholic
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The true answer is MONEY! Disney could always make an offer Uni could not refuse to get them to abandon Marvel Island, but I don't see that happening. They get free advertising for their IP so it's not totally bad for them.
Magenta Panther
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How is this a "headache" for Disney? As I understand it, Universal has to pay Disney to use Marvel characters now. Which means Disney gets a nice chunk of change from rides it didn't have to build. Some "headache"!
And now let me ask a question: why are some people here so rabidly, foam-at-the-mouth eager to get more tacky Marvel garbage into WDW? You need Spidey so very very much? Well, happily, there's a solution. It's called Universal Studios Florida. It's right down the road from WDW. You can get your adolescent emotionally-arrested superhero fix there. Have fun!
Shouldigo12
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And now let me ask question: what's your deal with people who like superheroes? You realize we're all on a site dedicated to a theme park filled with princesses and anthropomorphic animals, yes?
Only for those who think there’s a problem.