Vegas Disney Fan
Well-Known Member
Yes, .
Yeah. At the very least, I don't think they have the guts.Can they? Of course. Will they? Doubtful. Very doubtful.
And will probably tank just as fast as Elon Musk's Twitter.What does it matter? It's all going to be spun off once Disney sells to Apple and Bob Iger makes his hundreds of millions cause the stock price will shoot higher than an Elon Musk SpaceX rocket.
I would agree that it has a good chance of survival long haul, but never say never. For financing and debt it dwarfs those retail spaces that you mentioned. When I was younger, first married, I relied on Sears to get me quality goods at a reasonable price. That was when there was a middle class. Other stores came out of nowhere. Stores like Walmart and others and beat the prices. The hold Sears had was partially because they had a credit card department before things like Visa, MC and other really took hold. They had easy access to a Credit card. Hell, I even got one when I was a 16 year old high school student. I still have the guitar that I bought with it almost 60 years ago.Can it be fixed….sure. Will it be… now that’s the question to ask. The answer is a resounding… No. I very much doubt you will see Dis return to the wonder years ( or even come close to that) everyone on here reminisces about and wants to see. Some changes are coming to placate the bad press and bad feelings but nothing has happened to show they have to pull a 180.
And you can’t put Dis in the same grouping as Sears, Pennys , Kodac and others. It just isn’t the same because the competition isn’t the same that drove them out. Dis can manage against Uni, as well as all the other parks in the US . They aren’t surrounded by enough others that can chip away critical business. They have the brand and attraction that will not be lost. No matter the competition they can manage. It will take a calamity of Covid or 911 or massive recession to affect them.. yet they can still hold on and manage through it.
Those who claim they will never return because it’s not Walt’s parks anymore doesn’t phase Dis because their numbers aren’t enough and they are replaced by others in similar numbers. As long as Dis continues to give just enough to keep people interested and willing to pay out they will survive.
And depending on who you ask Steve, you have to get them to agree there is a problem. I have young moms on my old job (30-40 with small kids) that LOVE Disney, they're not complaining about much except the crowds. I mentioned my neighbors many times who said "I'll pay any amount of money not to wait in line" so for her genie plus is not evil.The only ones in power to change things is the consumer. As long as we keep buying, keep going, nothing needs to change.
My family has not been to the parks since Dec. 2019 and we let our three APs go in 2020, and we never returned to the movie theaters, but I did renew D+ and we do still buy merch with our Disney Visa
So I too am part of the problem.
Drama much?so we have a change in CEO's this week.. and the promise of "fixing things" .. but i honestly want to know.. HAS DISNEY GONE TOO FAR.. have they "jumped the shark" so to speak.. can they really bring back the true magic? How much Pixie Dust is going to fix this because just a little ISN"T ENOUGH.. I mean its time to bring out the shovels of the Dust.. mountains.. i honestly don't know if Disney can recover from all of this.. but its gonna take a big change of heart.. and it better be filled with Magic and Dreams and Visions and NOT BEAN COUNTING.. because one more bean counting session may be enough... again.. GM went Bankrupt.. Sears was the number one store in my lifetime.. So was Penneys.. Kodak.. the list goes on and on.. Gateway computers.. all for different reasons but they all were number ONE at one point in time.. Gimbal's .. Macy's is a shell of its self..
I love Disney.. I have never had a bad day there. I cry when i look at my old photos of the arch or gateway entering the park..
Has Disney gone too far..? i really really want to know..
He and Iger… knew each other.It's a shame Steve Jobs isn't still alive...
That will put them out of business faster than anything else discussed here.advocating for delivering a quality product/service above profit
That’s difficult when outside forces have convinced everyone who isn’t a doctor or lawyer they are underpaid for selling churros.It’s got to start with one thing really - Disney has to somehow make their cast members LOVE their jobs again.
That happiness translates into the magic we miss.
And depending on who you ask Steve, you have to get them to agree there is a problem. I have young moms on my old job (30-40 with small kids) that LOVE Disney, they're not complaining about much except the crowds. I mentioned my neighbors many times who said "I'll pay any amount of money not to wait in line" so for her genie plus is not evil.
Now as to the op's question?? I really don't think it's a valid question. No they haven't gone "to far". That's evident by the number of folks in the parks.
Will much change?? For the short term, no.
Im keeping my fingers crossed for small victories, I'm hoping they simply adequately staff the place.
Lol I'm a proud part of the problem I was hanging out at Disney Springs on a short layover last Wednesday and we just decided on another trip next year while watching Black panther 2 today.
Perspective is a lot
They had a pretty good balance in Orlando for 40 odd years.That will put them out of business faster than anything else discussed here.
The empty Star Wars Hotel will disagree with you.That will put them out of business faster than anything else discussed here.
They didn't put a quality product/service above profit; they had both.They had a pretty good balance in Orlando for 40 odd years.
The empty Star Wars Hotel will disagree with you.
But I mean why should a company involved in the hospitality industry give two ***** about providing a quality product right?
Indeed. There’s the balance they used to have.They didn't put a quality product/service above profit; they had both.
Clearly now that you were called out in it, you’re back tracking. What you said initially was quite clear. Now you’re just responding with word salad.Some people seem to intentionally misread what I typed. It's almost like the way they react to WDW press releases.
Get your emotional baggage out of my posts. Don't put words in my mouth; don't misquote me.
Obviously, nowhere did I say they shouldn't care about a quality product.
I responded to a person who suggested putting a quality product *above* profits was the way to go. Sure, it's the way to go out of business. Profits are not optional, for all the people out there with an emotional age of 12 and a pie-in-the-sky view of how businesses work.
They exist *for* profits. They can't survive without profits.
They have to walk the line between maintaining a quality product and maintaining profits while all the factors that go into those two things constantly change: costs, individual employees, customers, politics, trends, etc.
Sometimes they'll fall a little on one side of the line or the other. They'll always be pulled back to the center unless/until it's too late. What makes it too late? Loss of profits. That will be long before loss of demand for their theme parks.
That's what balance means.They didn't put a quality product/service above profit; they had both.
Do tell where am I back tracking? I stand by every word.Clearly now that you were called out in it, you’re back tracking. What you said initially was quite clear. Now you’re just responding with word salad.
Clearly now that you were called out in it, you’re back tracking. What you said initially was quite clear. Now you’re just responding with word salad.
advocating for delivering a quality product/service above profit
That will put them out of business faster than anything else discussed here.
They had a pretty good balance in Orlando for 40 odd years.
They didn't put a quality product/service above profit; they had both.
Indeed. There’s the balance they used to have.
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