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CDS Disney

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Originally posted by dadisneynutter
but we don't really know that. Just like I don't know if he intended to put religious connotations into ANY of his artwork. Maybe it was that disease I can't spell (:lol: ) or maybe it was just the way he expressed himself. I don't think we can ever really know that minds of others. I can't judge who you are just like you can't judge who I or what I intend in what I do. It's all in the mind of the Maker
True very true
 

Erika

Moderator
Originally posted by dadisneynutter
but we don't really know that. Just like I don't know if he intended to put religious connotations into ANY of his artwork. Maybe it was that disease I can't spell (:lol: ) or maybe it was just the way he expressed himself. I don't think we can ever really know that minds of others. I can't judge who you are just like you can't judge who I or what I intend in what I do. It's all in the mind of the Maker

Very true- whether or not an artist intends for extra meaning in a piece of work is sometimes neither here nor there. What does the painting say to you personally? ~That may depend on your experiences and your beliefs. I think your analysis was a good one and obviously reflects your religious faith.

A piece has a different existance for the artist than it does for the rest of the world. We all see with different eyes, and most people have a natural inclination towards interpretation, intentionally or not.

Just a piece of trivia- did you know the depiction of the halo originated in the Pagan world? Just another thing we Christians have commandeered for our own use ;)
 

tenchu

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by dadisneynutter
but we don't really know that. Just like I don't know if he intended to put religious connotations into ANY of his artwork. Maybe it was that disease I can't spell (:lol: ) or maybe it was just the way he expressed himself. I don't think we can ever really know that minds of others. I can't judge who you are just like you can't judge who I or what I intend in what I do. It's all in the mind of the Maker

Maybe he just liked the look of it?
 

Maria

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If you asked me to tell you what it means for me, I would end up making a funny paragraph... I just like it and could tell you plain what I see on it: a village, a hill, the stars, the church, the wind and the skies. Sorry... I´m not eloquent when it comes to art.
I just love impressionism! I have a collection of Monet´s litographs ready to frame when I get the money to do it. :animwink:
 

Maria

New Member
Can I thread drift a little please? :D

I went searching for my favorites online and found this one that I always wanted and finally got in NY. It´s Camile arro´s Boulevard des Italiens, morning view. I love how if you look close, they are just "sticks" and paint "stains", but they look like people and carriages and all! Gotta love Impressionism! :)
 

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WDWSwashbuckler

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Original Poster
Originally posted by Erika
Just a piece of trivia- did you know the depiction of the halo originated in the Pagan world? Just another thing we Christians have commandeered for our own use ;)

Really?? That's cool to know! What was it originated for? I mean, what was the original meaning? oh, and hee hee, yeah, our christian ancestors have taken alot of credit for pagan symbolism and things. :hammer:
 

dreamer

New Member
Originally posted by dadisneynutter
Hey everybody!! Look, I was just wondering what you guys thought Van Gogh's "Starry Night" means. And, no, this isn't school work or anything. I was just studying the painting tonight and was wondering if anybody is anylytic concerning art. Hee hee, I know I'm crazy, but I love all the fine arts!! Love ya all!! :sohappy:


I never thought about the "meaning" of this painting before.

I see a small, dark village underneath a bright, glorious sky. I think the artist could have been feeling despair for being trapped in the darkness, or hope of reaching or at least contemplating the stars. As I look at the painting my feelings fluctuate between the two.

I would guess that putting the tall, dark bush/tree in the foreground without much detail was a deliberate attempt to convey something. Usually foreground has more detail -- is it that vague in the original? If I slapped that much dark paint in the foreground, it'd be cause I was p issed about something. Then again maybe the tree he was looking at was just real dark.


Art can evoke emotions and responses the artist never intended. I think it's fun to discuss. I agree, though, that overinterpretations can be sickening.
 

Eeyore

Mrs. WDWMAGIC [Assistant Administrator]
Premium Member
Originally posted by dadisneynutter
Thanks Eeyore!! That's awesome! Is there somewhere where I can find this in a book or something??

There have been quite a few books of Van Gogh's letters published. I don't know any of the names of them off the top of my head, but I'm sure you could find something by searching on Borders, Amazon, etc. :) There is a biography of him written called " for Life" and a movie of the same name starring Kirk Douglas I haven't read it or seen the whole movie, but I think it is embellished, only BASED on fact.

It is thought now that Van Gogh was actually a manic depressive. I often ask my students: If Van Gogh were alive today, diagnosed as manic depressive, and medicated do you think he would have been the artist he was? I'd be interested to hear what you guys think? :)
 

Eeyore

Mrs. WDWMAGIC [Assistant Administrator]
Premium Member
Another sad but interesting fact about Van Gogh:
He had an older brother also named vincent that died shortly after birth. So Vincent went through most of his life feeling like he could never live up to the image of a perfect baby Vincent in Heaven.
 

SirNim

Well-Known Member
God, I forgot, I did a whole report on Van Gogh...

Actually, a "multimedia presentation"...


That's right about baby Vincent...


I have to find that report... It's on one of my floppy disks stored away!
 

Debbie

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Eeyore
Another sad but interesting fact about Van Gogh:
He had an older brother also named vincent that died shortly after birth. So Vincent went through most of his life feeling like he could never live up to the image of a perfect baby Vincent in Heaven.

Hmmm..... that's interesting; he must have been reminded of this by someone who was grieving, and wanted to make him feel guilty through their grief, being he wasn't born when this happened. Imagine someone who already has manic depression, and having to live with being retold the story of baby Vincent, over and over i.e. "Why couldn't you be as precious as baby Vincent?" Makes you wonder how this could have played in with his coping skills, his depression, etc.
 

dreamer

New Member
Originally posted by Eeyore
It is thought now that Van Gogh was actually a manic depressive. I often ask my students: If Van Gogh were alive today, diagnosed as manic depressive, and medicated do you think he would have been the artist he was? I'd be interested to hear what you guys think? :)


I thought that part of Van Gogh's insanity was due to mercury or some other heavy metal in the absinthe he drank. In addition to the bipolar disorder.

I think he would be a substance abuser of some sort. He would not fit today like he didn't back then. Much more effort would be spent to squeeze him into the box.

Whether he would have progressed from his earlier uninspired work to his unique style the way he did, I don't know -- our culture today is so much more oppressive. The meds would definitely work against him. If he stayed on them I think society could successfully keep him from expressing his genius.
 

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