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News Buzzy’s been stolen?
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EPCOTServo21
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Yeah - acted all tough on Twitter, attitude towards anyone questioning what he was up to, but less mature in real life when talking to the actual police about the situations he’s often brag about. It’s just interesting to see - especially now that he got “away” with his charge being dropped (even though that has nothing to do with what was found on his phone), he seems to be all fine with continuing to share more of the stuff he captured when working for the company, when he pretended to need to work inside attractions, when he pretended to be something other than an entertainment tech to get to places he shouldn’t have been in. Real stand up guy it seems.Yes. Spawn of the devil. That is precisely what I've been saying.
I get it -- defending your friend. You seem quite buddy-buddy with him on Twitter. I check in every now and then in the hopes that he gets himself caught. Again.
I can't help but find his bravado pathetic, particularly when we know how he reacted in the PD under actual pressure, away from his keyboard. I still can't get over that he's 24... less mature than my middle schoolers and all their friends.
gustaftp
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What, you don't enjoy the virtue signaling? Case in point:
They're not going to do anything about it, because it just makes Disney look bad for letting attractions rot and having ridiculously lax security. They aren't going to want to bring light to that fact. Prosecuting urbexers would backfire, making an example out of Disney. Which, in the case of someone like Seph Lawless simply emphasizes the point he is making with his photography: next to luxury resorts that people spend beaucoup $$$ rampant neglect exists. Do you really think Disney wants to highlight that fact more than people like Seph have already done?As for the URBEX'ers... They're trespassing, plain and simple - a misdemeanor. Let WDW prosecute to the fullest extent of the law and ban them; make examples of them.
Moving on...
Plus, the punishment for trespassing in a court of law is usually a slap on the wrist, if not outright dismissal of the case. The "fullest extent of the law" is usually a small fine, which isn't worth Disney's time or money to lawyer up over. There's a reason that it is considered a civil matter in many countries: it is barely worth getting upset over unless it is coupled with a real crime like burglary.
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DreamfinderGuy
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Admin- *tells everyone to shut up*
People- *keep talking*
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People- *keep talking*
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BoarderPhreak
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Virtue signaling?
Please.The punishment on a first offense trespass is pretty light, yes (if it's not dismissed outright). But it's important to charge the person regardless, in case it happens again. This is called repeat offending, and the punishment for the second (or following) offenses increases each time. It's valuable for a variety of other reasons; e.g. documentation, legal trail, reporting, deterrent, etc.
It does not make Disney "look bad" when they enforce their legal rights, LOL. And Disney has more than enough lawyers on-hand to do whatever needs doing, don't worry.
iHeartDisneylandCats
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100 pages of pure hysteria! In honor of the occasion:
DreamfinderGuy
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Can’t help but chuckle here
Edit: Made it as the 1,989th post on this thread. Same year Cranium Command opened. Coincidence? I think not.
Edit: Made it as the 1,989th post on this thread. Same year Cranium Command opened. Coincidence? I think not.
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goldenstate5
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Just have to say the people who are hating on Dreamfinder Guy aren't acting any better than he is. K gotta run
DreamfinderGuy
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I don’t know exactly whether to take that as a compliment or an insult but I agree with you either way
gustaftp
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Virtue signaling?
The punishment on a first offense trespass is pretty light, yes (if it's not dismissed outright). But it's important to charge the person regardless, in case it happens again. This is called repeat offending, and the punishment for the second (or following) offenses increases each time. It's valuable for a variety of other reasons; e.g. documentation, legal trail, reporting, deterrent, etc.
It does not make Disney "look bad" when they enforce their legal rights, LOL. And Disney has more than enough lawyers on-hand to do whatever needs doing, don't worry.
Incorrect, I'd say that Disney stands to lose money and reputation by trying to go after such a minor offense primarily for the unintended consequences. When Seph's and Shane's photos were published, they were all over the media. And the media would certainly pick up on a story about Disney suing someone for entering derelict attraction space that was hidden behind a curtain. Photos of dusty Buzzy and derelict attraction space would once again go viral and Disney would rather not have that happen.
You really think Disney wants to lawyer up to to get revenge on an urbexer -- all in order to highlight that they have been charging more while providing less?
There is nothing for Disney to gain by pursuing legal action, which is why they don't and won't.
iHeartDisneylandCats
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I quit reading this thread weeks ago. I just pop in now and then to see if anything major happened, but this thread was starting to get tired quite a while ago.
EPCOTServo21
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(Hopefully on-topic and some more general info) I learned from a friend who’s also an Entertainment Tech at the parks, that the urban explorer guy Matt, who posted those videos of him inside Walt’s airplane, climbing up Big Thunder rocks, among others, that the sheriff was unable to charge him for trespassing in the case of entering Walt’s plane because there are technically not any “no trespassing” signs. There are numerous “service vehicles only” (or something similar) before the gated area back there, but not “no trespassing” signs as that wasn’t something they thought might ever be an issue. So, apparently their hands were tied when they tried to arrest and press charges for his adventure there. I apologize if he mentions this in his YT videos, I myself haven’t been able to sit thru all of them, so maybe he explained this himself.
bcoachable
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Disney should and may have to take legal action. Allowing such behavior to go on unchecked could lead to someone getting seriously hurt and because Disney didn't take legal action their abandoned attractions become an attractive nuisance leaving Disney liable for injuries. I know some may think it is a bad idea but think about all the consequences including injury chasing lawyers.
Movielover
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I guess we now know what the plane's new paint job will say...
BoarderPhreak
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Exactly right, and a point I was about to make in response to @gustaftp
They already have a problem with Sonswa getting onboard the plane because of a lack of signage. Thankfully, nobody's been hurt yet. Wait until the first person is... Caught up in the machinery of a ride. Now THAT won't look good for Disney.
flynnibus
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What is kind of crazy is that Disney hasn't moved to badge access doors everywhere... at least areas near attractions and guest areas. I know it's a crazy # of access points.. but the 'open graces' period died for everyone else back in the 80s man..
BoarderPhreak
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That is the ultimate solution to the problem. It would pose a huge logistical problem getting them all installed, let alone the cost. But since Disney isn't even doing the lock and key thing right...
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