Busses for resort guests only.

ImaYoyo

Active Member
I know what the OP is trying to say. I'm sure most everyone here does by now too. If you were to 'break down' what is involved with resort costs for staying in a room, 2 dollars would be towards transportation. OP, make sure you evaluate your leaders statements before posting them everywhere. That sounds like something that was for YOUR knowledge and not the entire world's. Not that anyone here is going to care eitherway, but for your own sake, don't post needless information like that, especially if it is something that is remotely or possibly priveledged information.
 

PigletIsMyCat

Well-Known Member
That's only partially true about all the disney busses. The Cruise line busses and the Magical Express busses are run by a local transportation company called Mears not Disney.

The OP's post refers only to the Disney buses that run regularly on Disney property, between resorts ans parks. It is well known that Mears is contracted by WDW for Cruise Line and DME buses. OP's post was talking only about the 'regular' Disney buses, which are not chartered.
 

PigletIsMyCat

Well-Known Member
This was posted earlier, to answer a question about going from DTD to the parks for offsite guests. However i must point out, that we are chartered by the resorts. $2 per day, per room goes from the hotels to the transportation dept. thats where our budget comes from. Just because they are all owned by disney doesn't matter, they still have to pay because each hotel is a seperate business. i know for a fact they pay us. It's no secret in the transportation dept. every manager and even the head of the transportation dept has told us so. The parks pay for the monorails and watercraft, but the hotels pay for the busses. except in this case, disney owns the bus company. however, on paper we are seperate businesses. just like walmart, if one store sends mechandise to another store, the recievieving store has to pay the store that sent it. i used to work for fedex and knew the recieving ladies wholet me in on that one. But each hotel is a seperate entity, and so is our transportation dept. and since the hotels(and therefore the guests) pay for the busses, they are for resort guests only.

Disney Transportation may well be budgeted $2 per day of every room reservation on property. However, that is a budget, not a charter contract. Housekeeping may be budgeted $X a day, but that does not mean that they are a seperate business with some kind of contract with each specific resort to clean rooms. And, as far as running a business goes, you are not seperate businesses on paper, you are seperately funded sects of the business. There is a huge difference. Same things as each resort being a 'seperate business': that is simply not the way things are done in business. And your WalMart analogy makes little sense in comparison to what you're talking about.

Also, if I were you, I'd hope that there are no Transportation managers on this board, because your statement about what they have told you is grounds for immediate dismissal. Even if you have talked to the 'head' of Transportation.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
You missed the part where the busses are paid for by the resorts. $2 per room, per night. Not in your park ticket, that pays for the monorails. resort guests pay for the busses when they pay for their room. You assume its free because we dont charge you each time you get on. It's not.
$2 per room, per night is shifted from one budget to another... ultimately in the same pot.

BFD... this is a non-issue to most of us on here.
 

mpaul32001

Well-Known Member
I remember during the busy season's they used to check and ask you to see your room key before letting you get on a resort hotel bus when coming from a theme park. It used to be the same for the resort monorail....during busy season that is. I think they have stopped this during busy season for some reason.
 

MonoRon

Member
Actually all the hotels that the monorail goes to, Polynesian, Contemporary and Grand Floridian, pay for the monorail. That part of the charge for staying there. I assume goes for the watercraft too.
 

Nemo14

Well-Known Member
I remember during the busy season's they used to check and ask you to see your room key before letting you get on a resort hotel bus when coming from a theme park. It used to be the same for the resort monorail....during busy season that is. I think they have stopped this during busy season for some reason.
I don't remember the busses checking, but I do remember being checked for the resort monorail.
 

slappy magoo

Well-Known Member
If this is that serious of a problem - the DTD parking lot getting filled with cars from people trying to avoid paying to park in the theme park lots - then maybe this is the best solution - pay for parking in the DTD lot, too. Not necessarily a lot or as much as the theme park lots, just comparable to what a small town might charge in their municipal lot.

Many towns and cities with paid parking now have, instead of a meter by every space, a couple of machines on a street or in a lot, where you pay for your parking, leave the receipt in yoour car (facing up, so the police/meter readers can see how long you've paid for parking) and make sure you return before your time expires. I propose that Disney really ought to consider using those machines.

DTD parking could be as inexpensive as a quarter every half hour or quarter hour, and a person can pay up to 12 hours at a time. But if you're staying on site, your parking permit bypasses the required payment.

Finally, they should make the fine for not getting your car out or paying for more parking pretty severe so no one tries to take advantage of it.

What this does is a: Prevent resort guests from having to pay for parking, since one of the perks of staying on property is free parking; b: bring in a little more revenue, which WDW sorely needs :D but seriously, a little extra coin never hurts, it might just be enough to pay for the security they'd need to patrol the lot and have expired cars or scofflaws towed; c: if someone is planning to use the DTD to save money by parking there and taking a bus to a theme park, they'd have to either pay just a couple of bucks and hope they get back on time, OR they'll have to put in so much money to avoid the risk of being late, it's not worth it, they may as well park in the theme park lots.

The people this indirectly affects the most are people (mostly locals) who are coming to DTD just to shop or eat or enjoy nightlife, & are not locals. They might wind up paying 5-10 dollars more a day, and that would stink. One potential way around that is to do what many supermarkets do with their receipt tape - print coupons on the back. Maybe it's good for a free soda with purchase of a sandwich at Earl of Sandwich, or free popcorn at the movies, a few dollars off a CD at Virgin, with no expiration date or a long far-away expiration date. To be used next time. Or, when the receipt prints out, the coupon could print out along with it to be detached at the end, and the more you spend on parking that day, the more coupons you get, and this way people are getting back at least some of what they spent on parking, and with coupons that many stores tend to give away anyway to entice business.

Have your people get on that- pronto. :ROFLOL:
 

C&D

Well-Known Member
The idea here is that DTD parking is for DTD visitors. If just one percent of park guests parked in the DTD parking lot to save the parking fee, it would effectively shut down the DTD shops; that's what I think is the point of not allowing bus hopping to the parks. I'll reiterate, it is usually quite challenging to find parking at DTD from mid morning on.
 
$2 per room, per night is shifted from one budget to another... ultimately in the same pot.

BFD... this is a non-issue to most of us on here.

Actually I would be willing to bet that the buses are run by a seperate company. Considering the liability if one of those buses were to get into a wreck/burn and kill all on board, I can see Disney setting up a seperate Disney bus/charter company and then contracting with the resort and the bus company to avoid any huge damage claims. I mean if properly done the most anyone could get if someone was killed on a bus would be from a little bus company with no assets beyond some buses... much less than if you would sue Disney as a whole.

Just because the bill doesn't break down any cost / room doesn't mean they don't exist. Lots of companies employ multiple seperate legal entities and do all sorts of wierd costing between them for all sort of reasons. This is probably one of them.
 

J_Krafty24

Active Member
What they could do is charge the full $10 for parking at DTD but then let you use your parking ticket as the first $10 you spend at a DTD shop or resturant. Heck, they could even specify that it must be on a purchase of 20 (or 30 or 50) dollars or more. That way they would cut down on the "illegal" parking but still give DTD customers free parking.
 

wdwsog

New Member
PigletIsMyCat, just take it easy...not the end of the world to get this right. Whether the person is a driver or not is besides the point, how about a little patience as they explain the point without jumping all over it.

Man, just jump on the doggone bus and have fun!!
 

PigletIsMyCat

Well-Known Member
The reason I didn't 'take it easy' is because the OP started a thread with a very argumentative tone without provocation (at lease, without provocation known to me). Also because most of his claims are quite outlandish, and because he was stating 'facts' that had been given to him by his managers, which is strictly against Disney protocol.

Whether the OP is a driver or not is definitely NOT beside the point. The OP is presenting him/herself as a Disney bus driver, and presenting information as fact, when most of that information is information that at least I find highly questionable.
 

drdoom1001

Member
I honestly don't see too much of a problem in any of the issues being discussed her!!
1.If somebody wants to park at DTD to save $10 let them,It'll take them over an hour and a half to get to the park and the same back.
2.Bus transportation is for people with park passes?,Bus transportation is for resort guests only?,WHO CARES,anybody who wants to resort-hop will probably end up spending money to eat or shop at the resorts,so why would Mickey care who's using the buses????
3.Charging for parking at Downtown Disney,DUMB IDEA,that's why Mickey keeps it free.Ask Pointe Orlando in International Drive how much of a good idea it is to charge people to park????
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
Actually I would be willing to bet that the buses are run by a seperate company. Considering the liability if one of those buses were to get into a wreck/burn and kill all on board, I can see Disney setting up a seperate Disney bus/charter company and then contracting with the resort and the bus company to avoid any huge damage claims. I mean if properly done the most anyone could get if someone was killed on a bus would be from a little bus company with no assets beyond some buses... much less than if you would sue Disney as a whole.

Just because the bill doesn't break down any cost / room doesn't mean they don't exist. Lots of companies employ multiple seperate legal entities and do all sorts of wierd costing between them for all sort of reasons. This is probably one of them.
Disney Transporation (Monorails, Watercraft, and Busses) is Disney owned and operated. The busses are owned by Disney and the drivers are Disney CM's. They are insured under the blanket policy covering all vehicles owned by TWDC in the United States :)

Disney's Magical Express and the Disney Cruise Line busses are operated by Mears Transporation.
 

niteobsrvr

Well-Known Member
wow, lots of arguments here with no real information.

I can indeed back up the fact that the bus system is paid for out of the resort bucket and not the daily ticket bucket. It is truly a service for resort guests only even though that policy has not always been enforced.

There are lots of reasons to look at why this is the case and we can all discuss them ad naseum but until hear form an executive at the world on the subject it will all be heresay.
 

rimousefan84

New Member
You missed the part where the busses are paid for by the resorts. $2 per room, per night. Not in your park ticket, that pays for the monorails. resort guests pay for the busses when they pay for their room. You assume its free because we dont charge you each time you get on. It's not.

How could your park admission ticket pay for the monorail when the monorail only services two parks. I'd say that AK, MGM, and the waterparks are getting "shafted" if that is the case.... but something tells me it doesn't sound entirely factual.
 

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