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Broken light bulb watch
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Jimmy Thick
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I believe I am too.I think people would rather get defensive over Jimmy's blutness than actually read and understand the points he's making.
But, on topic. I've gone to Disney World at least 100 times in the past 5 years, and I have never thought about a light being out, not once. I've never even noticed, or even begin to notice. Yea, I see things that could be painted... but, duh. That'll be that way until the next refurb, certainly doesn't ruin my trip. Neither would a light bulb, or even multiple light bulbs.
Next time I'm walking around the Osborne Spectacle of Dancing Lights, I'll definitely be careful to watch out and not run over you guys with your magnifying glasses examining every single light.
This person totally gets it.
Well said.
Jimmy Thick-Bow...
captainkidd
Well-Known Member
You just be very proud of yourself.
1.You post such utter nonsense, people can't help but reply, thus dragging the thread on.
2.You post such utter nonsense, people are learning to simply ignore you, stop replying, thus killing the thread.
janoimagine
Well-Known Member
How about broken effects? Do those bother you? I'm just curious.
It is so much more than broken bulbs and chipped paint, they are just the catalyst to an increasing problem within TDO. Think were making to much out of nothing? Then look at what happened to Disneyland in the mid 90's.
TDO continues to cut the everday offerings and doing the minumum to get by, hoping the average guest won't notice. However, they haven't cut there prices ... that is at least one thing I can bank on when it comes to WDW.
However if you want to continue supporting the rants of some roided up tool, who laughs about physically harming another guest, then I will give you the shovel.
captainkidd
Well-Known Member
To your first point, that's exactly what I thought and was the point I was trying to make as well. Not sure (other than for attention) why others can't see this.
To your second point, YES.
duchess1576
Active Member
how about broken floats... :lookaroun
broken down on main street yesterday.
broken down on main street yesterday.
captainkidd
Well-Known Member
how about broken floats... :lookaroun
broken down on main street yesterday.
Oops.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
how about broken floats... :lookaroun
broken down on main street yesterday.
Why is that lady doing the "wax on, wax off" move?
Rowdy
Member
After you said that, I'm not sure if you wanted a legit answer, or if you were trying to prove me wrong in a way. But, I will answer your question.
Ride effects are a little more of a complaint to me. I mean, that is the main attraction and the reason you are there. That's more of a problem, rather than a 'nit pick everything you see' type deal. Hell, I won't even hardly ride Whinnie the Pooh anymore because the damn'd ole smoke ring doesn't work. :shrug:
I understand if you were just asking me that random question. But, I will say that I don't think broken ride effects are comparable to light bulbs.
janoimagine
Well-Known Member
It was a legit and honest question, and I wasn't trying to single you out.
To me it starts with a lack of maintenance, like the lightbulbs, trash, and paint ... then gets progressively worse, like a headline attraction that hasn't had it's finale working for years. It's simple: if they are not going to fix a $5 lightbulb, why would they spend the scratch to fix a $50,000 (or more) effect.
I think that is the underlying point most of us are trying to make. Welcome to the boards.
ob1thx1138
Member
There have been statements made that mention that the way these issues are repaired has changed over the years. I guess at one point there was a crew that went through the park every night checking for quality issues and repairing them, but apparently that job has now been handed off to the managers which now have to submit work orders for the work to be done. I am sure this is not the only task these managers are assigned with and I am also sure that they have a lot on their hands and don't always have the time to write a work order for each and every thing which needs to be fixed. They probably choose to write up the big things and then plan on getting to the smaller things as time permits, which is not very often.
If this is the case then it seems pretty obvious that this new system is not as good at catching the smaller details that some fans focus on and perhaps someone in the know will see this discussion and possibly get the ball rolling on fixing the issue.
That is why we are having this discussion, not because it ruined our vacation and not because we neglect our families by inspecting the park with a fine tooth comb.
If this is the case then it seems pretty obvious that this new system is not as good at catching the smaller details that some fans focus on and perhaps someone in the know will see this discussion and possibly get the ball rolling on fixing the issue.
That is why we are having this discussion, not because it ruined our vacation and not because we neglect our families by inspecting the park with a fine tooth comb.
Rowdy
Member
It was a legit and honest question, and I wasn't trying to single you out.
To me it starts with a lack of maintenance, like the lightbulbs, trash, and paint ... then gets progressively worse, like a headline attraction that hasn't had it's finale working for years. It's simple: if they are not going to fix a $5 lightbulb, why would they spend the scratch to fix a $50,000 (or more) effect.
I think that is the underlying point most of us are trying to make. Welcome to the boards.
Well, I appreciate your effort to communicate rather than trade insults.
And, I understand that. To me, it just doesn't weigh as heavily because I've never witnessed it. I guess the lack of me being a victim to it, I really don't think it's that big of a deal.
Thank you for the welcome.
MerlinTheGoat
Well-Known Member
This post is directed at anyone ok with management cutbacks-
Nothing good comes out of being complacent when it comes to quality. You're just playing into the corporate greed if you try to insult others for complaining about a legitimate drop in quality among management (perhaps you're one of them, it's hard to understand why you'd be ok with a degradation in quality to the extent that you're offended whenever someone points something out). You're justifying their reasoning- that no one should complain when they make cutbacks as long as you're having fun. It's a funny world we live in where people just LET a corporation take your money and let the experience you get in return degrade slowly but surely...
The fact is that one thing can lead to another (it has already happened at Disney). If you let them by with one thing, it will inevitably lead to them thinking they can get by with another. Eventually, you'll complain. Perhaps when the place looks like a dump due to lack of people caring. Or (heaven forbid) people get hurt.
1-Broken lights, no one speaks out, on to the next cutback
2-Chipped paint everywhere, no one speaks out, on to the next cutback
3-Trash all over the place, no one speaks out, on to the next cutback
4-Broken down rides and effects, no one speaks out, on to the next cutback
5-Covered up broken ride parts, no one speaks out, on to the next cutback
6-Disregard of safety codes, no one speaks out, on to the next cutback
Oh wait, someone got hurt? Oops, now i guess there's something to complain about. Guess we should have stopped them back at number 1 or 2.
One or two things might go unnoticed, but there are MANY things wrong with management at WDW. With enough of them occurring all at once, it becomes hard to enjoy the "magic" when you're being distracted with messes everywhere. It'll only get worse if people continue not to care.
Attacking people for complaining about a lack of quality is just stupid. You're not helping anyone by doing so (you, your family, or whoever). You're just helping to validate the philosophy that the corporate management has come to believe in- "If people continue lining our pockets and don't speak out when we put no effort in management, more power to us. We can just continue to gradually degrade the quality since people are too stupid to speak out.":hammer:
Nothing good comes out of being complacent when it comes to quality. You're just playing into the corporate greed if you try to insult others for complaining about a legitimate drop in quality among management (perhaps you're one of them, it's hard to understand why you'd be ok with a degradation in quality to the extent that you're offended whenever someone points something out). You're justifying their reasoning- that no one should complain when they make cutbacks as long as you're having fun. It's a funny world we live in where people just LET a corporation take your money and let the experience you get in return degrade slowly but surely...
The fact is that one thing can lead to another (it has already happened at Disney). If you let them by with one thing, it will inevitably lead to them thinking they can get by with another. Eventually, you'll complain. Perhaps when the place looks like a dump due to lack of people caring. Or (heaven forbid) people get hurt.
1-Broken lights, no one speaks out, on to the next cutback
2-Chipped paint everywhere, no one speaks out, on to the next cutback
3-Trash all over the place, no one speaks out, on to the next cutback
4-Broken down rides and effects, no one speaks out, on to the next cutback
5-Covered up broken ride parts, no one speaks out, on to the next cutback
6-Disregard of safety codes, no one speaks out, on to the next cutback
Oh wait, someone got hurt? Oops, now i guess there's something to complain about. Guess we should have stopped them back at number 1 or 2.
One or two things might go unnoticed, but there are MANY things wrong with management at WDW. With enough of them occurring all at once, it becomes hard to enjoy the "magic" when you're being distracted with messes everywhere. It'll only get worse if people continue not to care.
Attacking people for complaining about a lack of quality is just stupid. You're not helping anyone by doing so (you, your family, or whoever). You're just helping to validate the philosophy that the corporate management has come to believe in- "If people continue lining our pockets and don't speak out when we put no effort in management, more power to us. We can just continue to gradually degrade the quality since people are too stupid to speak out.":hammer:
Jimmy Thick
Well-Known Member
One day, people will realize the Disney World from way back when had burnt out bulbs and chipped paint and everything else people lurve to complain about, the problem is, they did not have the internet to whine about it.
Yes, those olden days sure were somethin'.
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Jimmy Thick-Watching and shaking head...
Yes, those olden days sure were somethin'.
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Jimmy Thick-Watching and shaking head...
I am more tired of Jimmy Thick and Jimmy Thick rebuttals taking over threads than I am about light bulbs.
I put him on ignore, but then everyone and their brother have to quote him and rebut him.
For the most part, the moderators do a great job. They are allowed to make a bad decision now and again (as they so obviously have over the past two weeks).
/also has him on ignore
//also notices that his posts are quoted in every other post, so it's impossible to avoid his trolling
I'm off to start a thread titled "I kicked a guy in the groin today because he was refilling a mug at the wrong resort," then I will pretend to be surprised when everyone calls me an idiot.
captainkidd
Well-Known Member
I don't know about you Jimbo, but I had the internet about 15 years ago when things at Disney looked a whole lot better than they do today.
Jimmy Thick - Still not gettin' it.
flavious27
Well-Known Member
That is like saying not to talk about the yeti, a 5th gate, or comparisons to potterland.
dave&di
Well-Known Member
:ROFLOL: I'm sure the b*****d deserved it! Are you sure it wasn't because he was laughing at your pink tutu!
jakeman
Well-Known Member
I didn't quote your whole diatribe because in essences you just threw out a slippery slope straw man argument as an excuse to rail against "corporate greed".
Honestly, if a light bulb is an issue report to the nearest cast member, or guest services and follow up with a letter when you get home explaining that it impacted your vacation and has you reconsidering your future vacation choices.
If the problem is not corrected then take your vacation dollars elsewhere.
Why is this so hard?
Complaining about it on an unofficial fan site isn't going to accomplish what appears to be your desired outcome, which is slaying the monster of corporate greed.
You're right. This website was so much better in 1994.
Mongomil
Well-Known Member
Can people please just get back to the main topic here instead of feeding the trolls. Most people know why this thread was started. So, for starters its not a sin for a light bulb to blow here and there. What is a sin is for Disney World to let them stay out for more than a day or two. Whats not a sin is for a ride to break down once in a while. What is a sin is to have main components of a ride not work properly for big chunks of time. I have not heard of one thread that says that it has ever ruined there vacation. Just people mentioning that one thing can lead to another. Now on our last trip one of the only things that made me say "WOW" was when we was on the monorail and pulled up to Poly. I looked out the window at the resort and pretty much all I saw was rotten wood. Of course I did not have to pull out my camera and snap a shot just so I could remember the bad but it will stick with me for quite a while. For anyone to say it "cost" to much really needs to take off the blinders that they are wearing. The one thing Disney does very well is make money. For Disney to say it its not in the budget then that person should be fired. Money should never be a driving force there. No matter what they spend they can make up. Just look at the cruise ships I am sure they did not say "Well it cost to much to make this ship so maybe we shouldn't". No they said it cost alot to make this ship so in a year or two we will recover our money. The parks are the same thing SPEND the money and they will make it back. If they fix everything properly it should run for a good amount of time for them to recover the money. And for the last part of my rant the parks were never supposed to make tons of money. Yes they should be profitable but not main money makers that is what the movies are for. So for them to keep all the budgets seperate is kind silly. Ok just remember one thing usually leads to another.