Broken light bulb watch

[Fantasmic]

Lol!!!


If you go to Disney World and spend top dollar, why on earth are you worried about broken or burned out light bulbs?

1-Your on vacation.

2-The burned out bulbs have nothing to do with your enjoyment, as I have never seem them close down parks due to broken light bulbs.

3-Your on vacation.

4-Can you not find anything to do with your time thats just a little bit more valuable?

5-Did I mention your on vacation?


I think people should spend more time being aware of their surrounding than worrying about burned out light bulbs.



Jimmy Thick-Don't get me started....

Jimmy Thick - as worried about missing lightbulbs as he is about missing apostrophes.

 

[janoimagine]

They still do, its still a "premium" product and they still offer excellent customer service, and compared to other vacation destinations, they are still above and beyond better than everyone else. If a burnt out blub offend you so much, simply stop going, it might make you happier.

Now how does a burnt out light bulb affect people vacation experience?




The details are still fantastic, I don't tend to notice simple things to complain about because Iam having a good time. If you spent some time trying to have a good time, you would still see how high Disney has kept the bar they set.

Seeing some chipped paint, does that completely ruin a vacation?




I don't go to Disney World looking for minute details to complain about, I go there to spend time with my family, go on some rides and eat good food, with spending time with my family the most important part. Disney World is a world in itself and away from the real one enough that I can be a kid again and just relax. Maybe if others had the same realm of thought, there would not be people complaining about, well really nothing.

Should I ask for a refund if that didn't power wash a inch of sidewalk?




Jimmy Thick-Vacation time is to get away...

I never, in any of my posts, said that I didn't enjoy my vacations at the world. I am merely pointing out that Disney use to pay more attention to maintenance in the past than they do in the present. You are taking it, as usual, to the extreme.

I will agree that most of the details are great, however the little details, that can add up quickly are frequently overlooked under the new TDO.

I would not agree that Disney has kept the bar they set, however they haven't abandoned it completely, which is why it is still our vacation destination of choice.

If you still think Disney is above all in terms of customer service, then spend a few nights at the 60 Thompson in Tribecca or the W in Westwood and then we will talk about who has a better customer service ethic.

 

[captainkidd]

Because I am spending the money on what is a 'premium' product, at a place that prides itself on customer service and customer satisfaction, or they did at one time.

Disney prided itself on the details, from the big ones to the little ones. They set the bar, not me, I am only holding them to there own standards.

If you are happy spending 5K or more on a vacation and getting a product that is average, but not above the average, then I question your financial prowess.

I agree with this.

As was said on this Travel Channel special, "Disney is held to a higher standard, because Disney started out by holding itself to a higher standard."

Seriously, if a guest can notice light bulbs out, surely, the WDW maintenance crew can. Fix it.

 

[Disneydreamer23]

The issue here is that they are charging more every year, and the overall quality of maintenance seems to be getting worse every year. As the guest, people are allowed to criticize WHATEVER they want and should not have to stand for being told to shut up and "enjoy themselves". That's stifling to free speech and only plays into corporate pockets. Especially since this is more than just broken lightbulbs, it can be anything that down-scales the experience. This also includes chipped paint everywhere, or broken effects/figures on rides, or trash scattered around. Or heck, even the closing or ruining of rides because they didn't perform proper maintenance when they had the chance.

It's also generally not just a single thing that makes the experience degrade. It's a multitude of things, all working together to make the experience a good deal less magical and more half-assed. A person might not notice a single bulb burned out if they didn't pay attention. But i think most everyone would notice if half or more of them were out. You'd probably be a bit irked, especially if this wasn't the only thing in need of help. Disney would gladly do anything they could to cut corners if they were allowed to and people just kept quiet. They're a corporation after profit first and foremost. If everyone really WAS happy with more than half the lightbulbs on Main Street burned out, most of the animatronics on the rides stationary, and other random things not working everywhere, Disney would just keep things broken and never fix a thing. This is happening right now and most people don't even care.

For all the money people spend lining the pockets of the Disney corporates, they should expect and receive the best experience possible. That's not a personal entitlement, i include EVERYONE in this statement. We've already seen what the indifferent attitude breeds, with all the maintenance issues and broken effects on rides. Given time, it will only get worse if people allow it to continue without speaking out. If Disney thought everyone thought everyone shared Jimmy Thick's ideals, they'd ruin the place. They're already gradually adapting people into not noticing cutbacks, while still charging people more than ever for the experience. If they do this gradually enough, and people still pay without complaining, they'll easily get by with this.

So after that wall of text, the real question is- how much would you actually take before it gets so cheaply maintained that it's impossible to enjoy yourself due to the distractions? The more people that just sit back and take it, the worse it's going to get. Attacking other people for complaining just feeds their greed and will make it worse and worse.

Should note that it doesn't ruin my vacation to see this stuff. It IS there and should indeed be talked about to give Disney a kick in the rear and get their act in gear. It's especially bad when i count the fact that i have only recently visited the park after having not gone since the mid-90's. Having not gone for so long really makes it all the more obvious all the stuff they've cut back on. While the frequent park goer may not have noticed the downgrades in maintenance due to how they've been introduced to them gradually, someone who hasn't had this done to them gradually (myself) can really see the effects clearly. Feel free to call me a whining complainer, but i'm just saying guests should have standards that were once in place. Especially since not caring will only make it worse.

Yes but prices on EVERy thing go up, gas food etc I remember I used to go to Cdonals in chicago and get a big mac meal for 4.13 around 2 yrs ago now its 5.90 !!! Every thing goes up and when minimum wage goes up look how much more they will be spending to pay people a good i would say 5,000 a day because of how mnay people work for DW! So they have to keep up with the times, they should pay more attention to things that are out but i honestly never really notice!

 

[wm49rs]

We should all care about broken lightbulbs.....

Because after all, someone's nose may get broken every time a lightbulb does.....

 

[celtic20]

No broken lightbulbs in my favorite bathroom!

 

[ob1thx1138]

To me broken light bulbs are not an issue on thier own, however they are a symptom of a possibly larger problem. Which is why, I think that many people are so concerned with them.

When I go to Disney I expect to be in a hyper realistic environment where everything is "perfect" That is the way I remember it being as a child and that is how I want my kids to experience it. I don't want them to notice things that are broken or things that look worn out or faded because that is not what Disney World is supposed to be.

 

[Penelope]

To me broken light bulbs are not an issue on thier own, however they are a symptom of a possibly larger problem. Which is why, I think that many people are so concerned with them.

When I go to Disney I expect to be in a hyper realistic environment where everything is "perfect" That is the way I remember it being as a child and that is how I want my kids to experience it. I don't want them to notice things that are broken or things that look worn out or faded because that is not what Disney World is supposed to be.

I totally agree.

I remember as a child everything in need of repair was well hidden with a nice "Pardon Our Dust" sign. I have not been to the parks since 2007, but I recall noticing a bit more exposed "dust" and it sounds like from what members here are posting that this is becoming a bigger issue. I hope Disney returns to that higher standard. I worry about ride safety. We do not go to the park by us (well first it is substandard to Disney) because I have a safety concern. They always have burnt out light bulbs, amongst other major problems.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

To me broken light bulbs are not an issue on thier own, however they are a symptom of a possibly larger problem. Which is why, I think that many people are so concerned with them.

When I go to Disney I expect to be in a hyper realistic environment where everything is "perfect" That is the way I remember it being as a child and that is how I want my kids to experience it. I don't want them to notice things that are broken or things that look worn out or faded because that is not what Disney World is supposed to be.

I fully agree, it's a symptom of a larger issue at hand- an overall degradation in management. In the end, it'll gradually worsen and spread to other areas of management if people just keep their mouths shut and wallets wide open. From show scenes in rides being broken, to possibly even the ride itself becoming dangerous due to lack of caring. The question would be when and how will it end? And how far will people allow them to go with the lack of management before anyone takes action?

 

[chmgreenwood]

And did this ruin your vacation? Did anyone else throw up their hands in disgust and demand their money back? Or is it something to complain about for the sake of complaining?


Jimmy Thick-The whole point is, why would you take pictures of that?

Jimmy I am a fan lol.

Some people will never be happy, if Disney pained everthing everyday there would still be chips etc in the paint due to the volume of people touching, walking and kids climbing on it every few minutes!

 

[captainkidd]

Jimmy I am a fan lol.

Some people will never be happy, if Disney pained everthing everyday there would still be chips etc in the paint due to the volume of people touching, walking and kids climbing on it every few minutes!

Again, as someone else said, anyone familiar with WDW knows that not too long ago, when any of the above you mentioned occurred, they had a team at night to fix it.
When you've gotten used to such high standards as Disney sets, you expect it.
No one said, as King Jimmy claims, to let these things ruin their vacation. They're simply pointing out something they noticed while on vacation.

Jimmy Thick - Can't understand why people want to talk about broken light bulbs, but thinks people want to hear about broken noses.

 

[Rowdy]

Jimmy I am a fan lol.

I believe I am too. I think people would rather get defensive over Jimmy's blutness than actually read and understand the points he's making.


But, on topic. I've gone to Disney World at least 100 times in the past 5 years, and I have never thought about a light being out, not once. I've never even noticed, or even begin to notice. Yea, I see things that could be painted... but, duh. That'll be that way until the next refurb, certainly doesn't ruin my trip. Neither would a light bulb, or even multiple light bulbs.

Next time I'm walking around the Osborne Spectacle of Dancing Lights, I'll definitely be careful to watch out and not run over you guys with your magnifying glasses examining every single light.

 

[chmgreenwood]

Again, as someone else said, anyone familiar with WDW knows that not too long ago, when any of the above you mentioned occurred, they had a team at night to fix it.
When you've gotten used to such high standards as Disney sets, you expect it.
No one said, as King Jimmy claims, to let these things ruin their vacation. They're simply pointing out something they noticed while on vacation.

Jimmy Thick - Can't understand why people want to talk about broken light bulbs, but thinks people want to hear about broken noses.

I think people always remember the past as being better!

 

[chmgreenwood]

I believe I am too. I think people would rather get defensive over Jimmy's blutness than actually read and understand the points he's making.


But, on topic. I've gone to Disney World at least 100 times in the past 5 years, and I have never thought about a light being out, not once. I've never even noticed, or even begin to notice. Yea, I see things that could be painted... but, duh. That'll be that way until the next refurb, certainly doesn't ruin my trip. Neither would a light bulb, or even multiple light bulbs.

Next time I'm walking around the Osborne Spectacle of Dancing Lights, I'll definitely be careful to watch out and not run over you guys with your magnifying glasses examining every single light.

I agree! well said:sohappy:

 

[captainkidd]

That'll be that way until the next refurb, certainly doesn't ruin my trip. Neither would a light bulb, or even multiple light bulbs.

Next time I'm walking around the Osborne Spectacle of Dancing Lights, I'll definitely be careful to watch out and not run over you guys with your magnifying glasses examining every single light.

Again, can you point out where anyone said it "ruined their vacation"? They're pointing out something they noticed at WDW on a WDW message board.

I've noticed plenty of broken bulbs while sitting on Main Street waiting for the parade. I don't think people intentionally look for things like this. They just notice them. If it doesn't bother you, fine. But why do you care if other people want to discuss it?:shrug:

 

[captainkidd]

I agree! well said:sohappy:

Actually, not really. There are spelling, punctuation and grammatical mistakes all over the post.:animwink:

 

[unkadug]

I am more tired of Jimmy Thick and Jimmy Thick rebuttals taking over threads than I am about light bulbs.

I put him on ignore, but then everyone and their brother have to quote him and rebut him.

 

[chmgreenwood]

Actually, not really. There are spelling, punctuation and grammatical mistakes all over the post.:animwink:

Hmm over analysing again I see

 

[Rowdy]

Again, can you point out where anyone said it "ruined their vacation"? They're pointing out something they noticed at WDW on a WDW message board.

But why do you care if other people want to discuss it?:shrug:

Again, could you point out where I claimed anyone said that? I was just making a statement. I'm pointing out my experiences at WDW on a WDW message board.

Who said I care? Am I not allowed to discuss my personal opinion? Sounds hypocritical to me... I also never said that people couldn't discuss it. I beg of you, make valid points. It'll make this conversation much more interesting.

Hmm over analysing again I see

Children will be children. :lol:

I appreciate you agreeing with my post, other than the fact that having an opinion of your own here is COMPLETELY unacceptable.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

Jimmy I am a fan lol.

Some people will never be happy, if Disney pained everthing everyday there would still be chips etc in the paint due to the volume of people touching, walking and kids climbing on it every few minutes!

Why thank you, I love my fans!!!


But to lets pursue this a little, as I try to bring about a fitting conclusion to this thread.


Argument:

The broken bulbs are just the beginning of the end of having a quality product.


Jimmy's thought:

Who really believes this? Seriously? Just because Disney cannot fix each and every light bulb, or a bulb could burn out during the day, does not mean this is the beginning of anything about Disney letting standards slip. If you walk down Main Street, it still looks like it just opened up, everything looks fresh. That back in the day crap is just that, crap. Who cares? Things back in the day did not cost what they do now, a few burned out bulbs is a small price to pay for state of the art attractions, wouldn't you say?


Argument:

The burned out bulbs could mean Disney is not taking care of their rides, and someone could get injured...


Jimmy's take:

This is one of the most absurd things I have ever read. How many people have gotten killed on ANY of Disney's rides due to the fact the ride was in a faulty condition? How many people were killed due to their own negligence? Here is a hint, one side of that argument is MUCH greater than the other. Disney World is not a Six Flags park or a fly by night parking lot carnival. Disney World is a fun, SAFE family vacation destination.


Argument:

People notice these things when they shouldn't and it bothers them...



Jimmy's take:

If you take the time to actually notice a burnt out light bulb at Disney World, you are seriously doing something wrong, and to be honest, your missing what Disney World is all about. Instead of noticing burnt out bulbs, no matter HOW obvious, why don't you give your child or wife/husband/boyfriend/girlfriend a hug, it might make you happier and appreciate real Disney magic.

Who know, you might even enjoy yourself.



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