Rumor Brazil is the frontrunner for a new World Showcase Pavilion

[marni1971]

We all want to think with rose colored glasses, but this lineup is really sad compared to today and even compared to other park openings...It was never designed to be a full park on opening and the idea of a "full day" park wasn't really a consideration on opening. The park was there as a family draw for the other "resort" features (golf, lounges, dinner shows, tennis, boating, etc...).

When you boil the attractions down to the core, there is not a lot to do...A few spin rides (Dumbo/tea party/carousel), some true classics (Mansion, Peter Pan, Jungle cruise, IASW, 20K, MTWR), a few animatronic shows (Tiki/Bears/MMR/HOP) and some "filler" (Keel boats/Riverboat/stare at the floor THE RIDE!/various versions of cars/shooting gallery).

MK was extremely sparse until the 80s and was not at all what you see today. When you look at that list, there are two, maybe three current "E" ticket rides and they are all dark rides.

When the MK opened, we didn't have BTMR, SM, PotC, Splash, Star Jets, If You Had Wings, CoP, TTA, train stations or circle vision...it was a park you went to with the family to get the kids tired before you went to Broadway at the Top...

If I may, primarily the MK was there as an attention draw and to justify E.P.C.O.T.

On opening there was a 1971 full day park. 20K did not open October 1st. The railroad did. And by the first summer season there was more.

By 1975 it was more than a day park.

 

[marni1971]

Wonders of life foundering was bad enough...but it was off the path a little.

Some would say on purpose *cough* landscaping *cough*

 

[smile]

If I may, primarily the MK was there as an attention draw and to justify E.P.C.O.T.

On opening there was a 1971 full day park. 20K did not open October 1st. The railroad did. And by the first summer season there was more.

By 1975 it was more than a day park.

oh alright. fine. we'll build another disneyland - and put it up there. happy?

 

[TheDuke]

I would be pretty into the Brazil showcase if they had a supermodel themed attraction. Maybe doesn't fit with the Disney mold, though

 

[The Empress Lilly]

I would be pretty into the Brazil showcase if they had a supermodel themed attraction. Maybe doesn't fit with the Disney mold, though

It's called the Norway Pavilion.

 

[JenniferS]

built to withstand hurricane winds

We never lost wifi during Hurricane Irma, so there is that.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Pretty sure that DAK budget issues are common knowledge. The reason we have Dinoland in it's current state and Beastly Kingdom cut

That's a very short version of it. Jim Hill did a 3 part article titled "Is Animal Kingdom's Beastly Kingdom DOA?". It's definitely worth a read.

 

[RSoxNo1]

We have kangaroos at the Nashville zoo. All they do is sleep in the shade in the summer... Doesn't seem very Disney to me.

Disney has Red Kangaroos in the Tree of Life exhibits.

 

[RSoxNo1]

That ride is good he most popular attraction in EPCOT

Don't confuse wait times with popularity. Frozen Ever After is a very imperfect attraction in the wrong park.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Yeah...but the dynamics in Orlando dictate that a new land in magic kingdom is the LAST thing they'd want to do from a distribution standpoint.

I'm still shocked they're adding the two things that they are already...the tron ride is gonna drive 3 hour waits as is...

They need to spread demand to increase the overall numbers (that's the goal...lets get real here...)

So now that they are adding stuff to Epcot...I'd say one more thing beyond what's being constructed will do the trick...and MGM is going to be overrun...

What is the park that still needs the most to increase attendance?

Same
As
Always: animal kingdom.

What do you mean the park that still needs the most to increase attendance?

As for the MK additions, the theater is absolutely a great move. Tron (or a similar thrill ride) is a welcome addition to the park, but not what it needs right now. It really is why I think moving it's a small world to Epcot makes so much sense. While small world has great capacity, opening up that area would allow them to easily add twice as much capacity on the same footprint (or expanded footprint). It would also do so in a way where they can add IP based attractions to one of the places they actually belong.

Having said that, a more substantial overhaul of Tomorrowland could also do wonders in adding additional capacity.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Still can't believe they thought putting 1 great ride and 1 terrible ride (it's basically a short version of IASW minus the AA's) would be all that Pandora needed. It was so half a**ed. If they would have really turned that land out like they should/could have, I think it would of helped increase their overall attendance. Currently, after you FP FOP, you still are left with a half day park. IMO.

I still don't see what a Brazil pavilion does for EPCOT. I guess I'm missing the "allure" of a new country pavilion, especially one with no attraction.

I spent 10 hours at the Animal Kingdom on Tuesday and didn't wait more than 20 minutes for any attraction thanks to Fastpass+ and DAS. We did the following
Na'vi River Journey
Festival of the Lion King
Kilimanjaro Safaris
Gorilla Falls Exploration Trail
Lunch at Yak and Yeti
Flight of Passage
Na'vi River Journey
Dinosaur
Expedition Everest
Finding Nemo the Musical
Maharajah Jungle Trek
Dinner at Satu'li Canteen
Nighttime Safari

Animal Kingdom is the second best park in Florida and third best in the country.

 

[RSoxNo1]

may I ask the source?

For what?

 

[peter11435]

Animal Kingdom is the second best park in Florida and third best in the country.

Without a doubt. Personally I would probably rate it one and two.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What do you mean the park that still needs the most to increase attendance?

As for the MK additions, the theater is absolutely a great move. Tron (or a similar thrill ride) is a welcome addition to the park, but not what it needs right now. It really is why I think moving it's a small world to Epcot makes so much sense. While small world has great capacity, opening up that area would allow them to easily add twice as much capacity on the same footprint (or expanded footprint). It would also do so in a way where they can add IP based attractions to one of the places they actually belong.

Having said that, a more substantial overhaul of Tomorrowland could also do wonders in adding additional capacity.

Mk attendance is roughly double the other 3...if they truly want more balance, they need to bring the others up.

Why would they want balance? Return on operational costs/investment...

In an ideal world, MK would get 20, the other 3 15

Or even better
Mk- 20
AK/Epcot 17
Studios - 13-15

So adding to making kingdom could make the others underutilized even further.

After they finish the Epcot additions, and after Star Wars at mgm (I'm over it...most won't be)...DAK is still gonna be the one that needs the most additions to drive up attendance and boost profit.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That's a very short version of it. JIM HILL did a 3 part article titled "Is Animal Kingdom's Beastly Kingdom DOA?". It's definitely worth a read.

...it think I see the problem

 

[TeriofTerror]

source for the rumour?

I'm truly just saying this to be helpful: if you use the "quote" or "reply" features, people will better be able to respond to your query. A simple reference to "the rumour" on a news and rumors board may not be a specific enough indicator to your topic of question.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

Don't confuse wait times with popularity. Frozen Ever After is a very imperfect attraction in the wrong park.

Really the only competition in the park is Soarin. Most rides are walk inside which makes the park enjoyable although very outdated. Frozen should be at the MK. Maybe when Frozen 2 comes out and we have the Frozen Craze like a few years back. Frozen could go into DHS too.

 

[smile]

We never lost wifi during Hurricane Irma, so there is that.

hear that, folks?
for the sake of walt, enough with the mymagic cost hullabaloo

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

The new theatre going into the MK was a great announcement. I agree the IASW needs to go over to the WS.

What do you mean the park that still needs the most to increase attendance?

As for the MK additions, the theater is absolutely a great move. Tron (or a similar thrill ride) is a welcome addition to the park, but not what it needs right now. It really is why I think moving it's a small world to Epcot makes so much sense. While small world has great capacity, opening up that area would allow them to easily add twice as much capacity on the same footprint (or expanded footprint). It would also do so in a way where they can add IP based attractions to one of the places they actually belong.

Having said that, a more substantial overhaul of Tomorrowland could also do wonders in adding additional capacity.

 

[JenniferS]

hear that, folks?
for the sake of walt, enough with the mymagic cost hullabaloo

Didn’t lose power or satellite either.
We did lose two park days though.