Rumor Brazil is the frontrunner for a new World Showcase Pavilion

[peter11435]

Isn't the cost of animals that caused DAK to overrun budget originally?

No. To my knowledge DAK did not have significant budget overruns.

The park just spent hundreds of millions of dollars to build a single land. The cost of some animals is insignificant next to this and won’t be the deciding factor that prevents a new land.

I’ll also point out that relatively recently they acquired at least seven new kanagaroo for the park. I’m not saying Australia is or will ever happen I’m just pointing out that they can acquire the animals if necessary.

 

[peter11435]

AK cost a cool $1.8

Source for this?

Not doubting I’ve just never seen this number before.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No. To my knowledge DAK did not have significant budget overruns.

Wahhh??

Are you serial?

...the budget overruns are notorious across the entire industry.

The two most massively overbudget amusement parks in history are epcot and AK

 

[peter11435]

Wahhh??

Are you serial?

...the budget overruns are notorious across the entire industry.

The two most massively overbudget amusement parks in history are epcot and AK

Epcot yes. Well known.

Never seen or heard of anything significant for DAK beyond the expected.

My sources both inside and out have always indicated that the original $800 million budget was exceeded but the final cost stayed just under $1 billion

 

[PJBuckeye]

The cost of acquiring animals would not prevent Australia from being built.

Hopefully they won’t build Zootopia

Epcot yes. Well known.

Never seen or heard of anything significant for DAK beyond the expected.

Pretty sure that DAK budget issues are common knowledge. The reason we have Dinoland in it's current state and Beastly Kingdom cut

 

[peter11435]

Pretty sure that DAK budget issues are common knowledge. The reason we have Dinoland in it's current state and Beastly Kingdom cut

Budget issues were absolutely the reason things were cut. But not because of animal procurement. More an issue of an original budget that was too small for such an ambitious project and out of control spending.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Pretty sure that DAK budget issues are common knowledge. The reason we have Dinoland in it's current state and Beastly Kingdom cut

Correct...the idea that eisner grew impatient and opened early due to the threat from IOA (universal was a badly run, near bankruptcy nightmare at that time) is a complete smokescreen...

The bills had gotten to Defcon 1.

Not only that...it lead to the half keister, budget conscious approach in dca, studios Paris, and Hong Kong...

That's some expensive real estate in Osceola county...just saying

 

[smile]

But if you want to know why AK cost a cool $1.8 on a Stated budget of $800....start your search below...

far wiser to burn money shortly thereafter in redesigns, no?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Budget issues were absolutely the reason things were cut. But not because of animal procurement. More an issue of an original budget that was too small for such an ambitious project and out of control spending.

The budget was double what was ever spent on a disney park to date...and they blew it out of the water.

Imagineering was out of control and Eisner had cut all the good Lts...no secret.

The place was a money pit.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

far wiser to burn money shortly thereafter in redesigns, no?

Why were they so gunshy to touch it for 15 years?

It was like Disney's version of the Montreal Olympics

 

[peter11435]

The budget was double what was ever spent on a disney park to date...and they blew it out of the water.

Imagineering was out of control and Eisner had cut all the good Lts...no secret.

The place was a money pit.

The budget of $800 million was clearly not double what they ended up spending on Epcot.

 

[Mainahman]

We have kangaroos at the Nashville zoo. All they do is sleep in the shade in the summer... Doesn't seem very Disney to me.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Source for this?

Not doubting I’ve just never seen this number before.

If you want a published source - no joke - the Guiness book of world records. I don't think disney was ever happy with that as they did a lot of itemized accounting to cover that.

And I worked in TDO...it's not that big of a world and little is unknown.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The budget of $800 million was clearly not double what they ended up spending on Epcot.

Budgeted? From 1979 to 1994? Sounds about right...

I'm not sure disney ever admitted what the bill was in Epcot...by the time it really hit the fan they had bigger problems

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

My trust in disney is so low the frozen ride comes to mind I completely believed it

That ride is good he most popular attraction in EPCOT

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

We have kangaroos at the Nashville zoo. All they do is sleep in the shade in the summer... Doesn't seem very Disney to me.

All animals at the same...why do tricks for the crowd when you can sleep all day and have food tossed at you?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That ride is good he most popular attraction in EPCOT

It's awesome...good thing the whole compound is overrun so the demand stays up...

 

[Mainahman]

All animals at the same...why do tricks for the crowd when you can sleep all day and have food tossed at you?

Right. Where do I sign up?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Right. Where do I sign up?

Exaclty...I'll scratch your butt if you scratch mine

 

[peter11435]

Correct...the idea that eisner grew impatient and opened early due to the threat from IOA (universal was a badly run, near bankruptcy nightmare at that time) is a complete smokescreen...

When the park was announced in 1995 they said it would open in the spring of 1998. Which it did.