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Rumor Brazil is the frontrunner for a new World Showcase Pavilion

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doctornick

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You aren't the only one who talks about 'balancing' things around Showcase Lagoon with a certain sense of... 'anxiety?'... that there are more rides on one side than the other.

I don't get that at all. If World Showcase were to have four and only four rides and they were located in Mexico, Norway, China, and Germany... it wouldn't bother me at all. And I'd see no logistical reason to 'spread them out.'
Everyone is different and personally I wouldn't care much. But I travel with family with different ages and interests and it would be great to have each pavilion have a greater variety of "stuff" for different people to enjoy. It makes it a lot easier to "do" World Showcase when you can break up the monotony of shops and food with something different.

And besides it's a theme park. WS takes up a massive amount of space and having only two rides in that large an area for a theme park is criminal. Epcot is a wonder and unique concept and so I don't want it to just be like other theme parks -- but that doesn't mean it should get away with it's lack of attractions, just that the attractions that could and should be there are more fitting to the environment.

This means I can't get on board with some people saying that "Country X should get a ride because of... balance". I would think there are better criteria for deciding where rides go.
Well, I would make the argument that every pavilion should have a major attraction. Doesn't have to be a ride, but could be a show or even an elaborate walk through. So, to me, Disney should look at every pavilion that lacks such a draw and come up with and build something that should complement the existing space. Do that and all the space is filled in and there doesn't have to be any "anxiety" about what locations would be ideal for a ride or anything else.
 

Andrew C

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If this does go through, do we have an approx completion date? I looked through the thread but didn’t see anything. Maybe I missed it?
 

RSoxNo1

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Future World has plenty of rides. They need updates. For some reason, however, they frequently decide to bulldoze perfectly fine FW rides that really just needed a renovation while WS stagnates and continues through its fourth decade under-utilized.
The thing is, Future World pavilions get updated pretty regularly in the grand scheme of things. They're just mediocre upgrades. Every Future World Pavilion has received updates in the 2000s now that Ellen's Energy Adventure closed.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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The thing is, Future World pavilions get updated pretty regularly in the grand scheme of things. They're just mediocre upgrades. Every Future World Pavilion has received updates in the 2000s now that Ellen's Energy Adventure closed.
Well...that goes back to Eisners disjointed handling of the late 90's...and Bob's "profit maximization" strategy...

...in amusement park terms
That means "increasing the price and not lifting a finger"
 

MansionButler84

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The thing is, Future World pavilions get updated pretty regularly in the grand scheme of things. They're just mediocre upgrades. Every Future World Pavilion has received updates in the 2000s now that Ellen's Energy Adventure closed.
If I’m being honest, I enjoy FW at present. Imagination and Innoventions are the only serious issues. Everything else has compelling content and I actually enjoy the updated MS and Test Track. Soarin has a misplaced entrance but certainly belongs in Epcot. They should have just bulldozed that place with the cronuts and literally 2 toilets and built a Soarin queue with a real restroom. They could even sell cronuts in the queue. Or is it poutine now?

On the whole, I think Epcot will be a great park by its 40th, though seriously-altered since the ‘80s. Actually, all four parks should be in their best shape in two decades by the 50th. Not that this is a HUGE compliment.
 

smile

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If I’m being honest, I enjoy FW at present. Imagination and Innoventions are the only serious issues. Everything else has compelling content and I actually enjoy the updated MS and Test Track. Soarin has a misplaced entrance but certainly belongs in Epcot. They should have just bulldozed that place with the cronuts and literally 2 toilets and built a Soarin queue with a real restroom. They could even sell cronuts in the queue. Or is it poutine now?

On the whole, I think Epcot will be a great park by its 40th, though seriously-altered since the ‘80s. Actually, all four parks should be in their best shape in two decades by the 50th. Not that this is a HUGE compliment.
you normally have to be sipping cocktails in orleans square to see that many free passes tossed around
;)
 

MansionButler84

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you normally have to be sipping cocktails in orleans square to see that many free passes tossed around
;)
Disneyland gets more....

There, I said it. I can breathe.

Because it’s “Walt’s Park”, we can excuse the entirety of Tomorrowland, Mansion’s state, Matterhorn, a Pixar fireworks show, Club 33, and soon, Galaxy’s Edge?

I’ll take Epcot 40, myself. If they gave us Indy and retracked Space Mtn, I’d have no need for DLR.
 

smile

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Disneyland gets more....

There, I said it. I can breathe.

Because it’s “Walt’s Park”, we can excuse the entirety of Tomorrowland, Mansion’s state, Matterhorn, a Pixar fireworks show, Club 33, and soon, Galaxy’s Edge?

I’ll take Epcot 40, myself. If they gave us Indy and retracked Space Mtn, I’d have no need for DLR.
yes, but no...
was actually making an apparently poor joke that you were giving epoct a lot of leeway in the form of 'free passes', while, generally, the only folks who receive such generosity are esteemed club members.

but, nevermind now - i'll show myself out
:p
 

The Empress Lilly

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If I’m being honest, I enjoy FW at present. Imagination and Innoventions are the only serious issues. Everything else has compelling content and I actually enjoy the updated MS and Test Track. Soarin has a misplaced entrance but certainly belongs in Epcot. They should have just bulldozed that place with the cronuts and literally 2 toilets and built a Soarin queue with a real restroom. They could even sell cronuts in the queue. Or is it poutine now?

On the whole, I think Epcot will be a great park by its 40th, though seriously-altered since the ‘80s. Actually, all four parks should be in their best shape in two decades by the 50th. Not that this is a HUGE compliment.
For all my whining, Epcot2017's FW wasn't bad.

Every change at EPCOT has been for the worse but FW still wasn't bad. SSE and LwtL are classic EPCOT and hence divine. M:S I enjoy, TT is not truly my thing but it is not bad either. Soarin' is great, even if one can debate the appropriateness of its placement. The Seas had been greatly and Energy gravely diminished, but both had their hearts intact with the tank and the dinosaurs. Imagination and what's left of Innoventions is pityful.

Two great rides, three fine new replacements, two mistaken redos, two disasters. It still left FW a full day park for me. About 10% of what EPCOT was worth, but EPCOT being the greatest park ever build, that still leaves a superb place.


For me the closure of energy may have tipped the balance. FW lost something essential with it for me. As for the 40th, parks with superhero thrill rides are an embarrassment if you are an adult and don't walk around with a backwards baseball cap and t-shirt with print.
 

smile

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For all my whining, Epcot2017's FW wasn't bad.

Every change at EPCOT has been for the worse but FW still wasn't bad. SSE and LwtL are classic EPCOT and hence divine. M:S I enjoy, TT is not truly my thing but it is not bad either. Soarin' is great, even if one can debate the appropriateness of its placement. The Seas had been greatly and Energy gravely diminished, but both had their hearts intact with the tank and the dinosaurs. Imagination and what's left of Innoventions is pityful.

Two great rides, three fine new replacements, two mistaken redos, two disasters. It still left FW a full day park for me. About 10% of what EPCOT was worth, but EPCOT being the greatest park ever build, that still leaves a superb place.


For me the closure of energy may have tipped the balance. FW lost something essential with it for me. As for the 40th, parks with superhero thrill rides are an embarrassment if you are an adult and don't walk around with a backwards baseball cap and t-shirt with print.
half perplexed, half envious

sse... god bless it - still holding on (for now), but my goodness that decent :facepalm:
m:s is serviceable unless you're prone to nausea then it's soarin in orbit
soarin's placement is questionable but i can deal with that in epcot (or even ec); however, it's outdated by the day, diminished by fop, and bent eiffel is simply embarrassing
tt is... well... just a fast car ride on a curvy road, but i'm bias so i'll give that one - whatevs

riding the rotting corpse that was energy at the end reminded me exactly what was missing from the remaining fw... grand ambition and WOW
 

21stamps

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For all my whining, Epcot2017's FW wasn't bad.

Every change at EPCOT has been for the worse but FW still wasn't bad. SSE and LwtL are classic EPCOT and hence divine. M:S I enjoy, TT is not truly my thing but it is not bad either. Soarin' is great, even if one can debate the appropriateness of its placement. The Seas had been greatly and Energy gravely diminished, but both had their hearts intact with the tank and the dinosaurs. Imagination and what's left of Innoventions is pityful.

Two great rides, three fine new replacements, two mistaken redos, two disasters. It still left FW a full day park for me. About 10% of what EPCOT was worth, but EPCOT being the greatest park ever build, that still leaves a superb place.


For me the closure of energy may have tipped the balance. FW lost something essential with it for me. As for the 40th, parks with superhero thrill rides are an embarrassment if you are an adult and don't walk around with a backwards baseball cap and t-shirt with print.
Hey now.. I’m a 40 year old, without backwards ball caps and graphic tees, who still loves thrill rides and hope to love them for years to come. :)
 
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