BOG Lunch Confusion - Clarification Needed

[TinkandCrew]

So....if I'm an off site guest, I don't have any way of reserving BOG for lunch...right? I would have to wait till we get there? Is our only option to wait in line?

Thanks!

 

[wdwmagic]

So....if I'm an off site guest, I don't have any way of reserving BOG for lunch...right? I would have to wait till we get there? Is our only option to wait in line?

Thanks!

Yes that is right

 

[Mukta]

So....if I'm an off site guest, I don't have any way of reserving BOG for lunch...right? I would have to wait till we get there? Is our only option to wait in line?

Thanks!

Right. Making a lunch reservation is a perk of staying onsite.

The first time I ate there was Dec of 2012. It was brand new and the lines were crazy long. We got into the line somewhere between 10 am and 10:30 am. That helped us immensely. The line only got longer throughout the day.

 

[TinkandCrew]

All Disney is going to do is give off site places the perk of us eating at their establishment instead, when they could have kept us inside the park. Too much punishment for not being a "Disney Resort Guest". It's a real turn off for me. My park pass entrance should have nothing to do with where I sleep at night.

Since I am not having the perks of on site guest, but I paid the same park pass price...I should have gotten a discounted park pass.

I can't wait to go back to being a Royal Caribbean cruiser....they know how to treat their guests!

 

[Mr. Pricklepants]

All Disney is going to do is give off site places the perk of us eating at their establishment instead, when they could have kept us inside the park. Too much punishment for not being a "Disney Resort Guest". It's a real turn off for me. My park pass entrance should have nothing to do with where I sleep at night.

Since I am not having the perks of on site guest, but I paid the same park pass price...I should have gotten a discounted park pass.

I can't wait to go back to being a Royal Caribbean cruiser....they know how to treat their guests!

That's kinda petty since you can still make reservations or wait in line just like everyone else. Even on a royal Caribbean cruise, the basic passenger cannot do everything that someone who elects to pay extra for. Want a balcony? extra $$. Want to eat in the fancier restaurants? extra $$. Want the Special Barbie options? extra $$. Want to go on a excursion? extra. It's the same thing at Disney. If you want special frills, you are going to pay for them.

 

[Ariel484]

All Disney is going to do is give off site places the perk of us eating at their establishment instead, when they could have kept us inside the park. Too much punishment for not being a "Disney Resort Guest". It's a real turn off for me. My park pass entrance should have nothing to do with where I sleep at night.

You may not like it, but Disney is making a big push to get people stay on-site. This is one of the perks they offer. You're not staying on-site, so you don't get the perk. On the flip-side, they want to make sure that guests who ARE staying on-site eat on-site, so they get first crack at ADRs and FP+ for Be Our guest. More money for Disney.

Since I am not having the perks of on site guest, but I paid the same park pass price...I should have gotten a discounted park pass.

You're paying the same price to get into the park, yes...but that's your park entry only. By staying off-site you're not giving Disney your hotel money, and again, those perks are there to get people to stay on-site (and thus give Disney more of their vacation money overall with park tickets + resort stay).

I can't wait to go back to being a Royal Caribbean cruiser....they know how to treat their guests!

...no one is making you go to Disney parks or take Disney cruises.

 

[TinkandCrew]

That's kinda petty since you can still make reservations or wait in line just like everyone else. Even on a royal Caribbean cruise, the basic passenger cannot do everything that someone who elects to pay extra for. Want a balcony? extra $$. Want to eat in the fancier restaurants? extra $$. Want the Special Barbie options? extra $$. Want to go on a excursion? extra. It's the same thing at Disney. If you want special frills, you are going to pay for them.

You are proving my point even more....all the perks you listed are what people paid "extra" for. My park pass price is the same as yours...is it not? So whatever is in that park should be fair game and equal opportunity. If you paid more for your "park pass" than I wouldn't have an argument. Your extra perks should remain at your high priced hotel room for deciding to stay on site...not have anything to do with whether you can make a lunch reservation in the Magic Kingdom. You can call me petty and I will call me "truthful". Sticks and stones....

 

[TinkandCrew]

You may not like it, but Disney is making a big push to get people stay on-site. This is one of the perks they offer. You're not staying on-site, so you don't get the perk. On the flip-side, they want to make sure that guests who ARE staying on-site eat on-site, so they get first crack at ADRs and FP+ for Be Our guest. More money for Disney.

You're paying the same price to get into the park, yes...but that's your park entry only. By staying off-site you're not giving Disney your hotel money, and again, those perks are there to get people to stay on-site (and thus give Disney more of their vacation money overall with park tickets + resort stay).

...no one is making you go to Disney parks or take Disney cruises.

You also prove my point "more money for Disney" regardless. Hotel perks should be hotel perks and park passes should be park passes. If you give me a different park experience, give me a different park price. Why am I paying the same price as you when my experience was less?

As for your "nobody is making me go" comment, I didn't say anyone was. I'm doing it for my children. Sheesh..you offend a Disney groupie with the truth and it's like your the unpopular kid on the playground.

 

[Ariel484]

Now I'm reminded of why I never reply to threads like this.

You also prove my point "more money for Disney" regardless.

Um, yeah...I said the same thing in my post.

Hotel perks should be hotel perks and park passes should be park passes. If you give me a different park experience, give me a different park price. Why am I paying the same price as you when my experience was less?

I guess in Disney's mind your park pass gets you the rides, shows, etc. Doesn't get you FP+ for restaurants.

As for your "nobody is making me go" comment, I didn't say anyone was. I'm doing it for my children.

Mmhmm, congrats on making this sacrifice for your kiddos. Hope you have a wonderful trip. If you do go to BoG for lunch, I recommend the braised pork and the potato leek soup.

Sheesh..you offend a Disney groupie with the truth and it's like your the unpopular kid on the playground.

Ooooookay, stranger I've never met. I wasn't defending Disney in what I was saying to you earlier, just pointing out that their main motivation, in everything they do, is to make money. Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[TinkandCrew]

Ooooookay, stranger I've never met. I wasn't defending Disney in what I was saying to you earlier, just pointing out that their main motivation, in everything they do, is to make money. Welcome to my ignore list.

Seems like our points are the same except for I'm not okay with Disney getting over on people and chose to say so. I won't loose sleep tonight.

 

[Mr. Pricklepants]

You are proving my point even more....all the perks you listed are what people paid "extra" for. My park pass price is the same as yours...is it not? So whatever is in that park should be fair game and equal opportunity. If you paid more for your "park pass" than I wouldn't have an argument. Your extra perks should remain at your high priced hotel room for deciding to stay on site...not have anything to do with whether you can make a lunch reservation in the Magic Kingdom. You can call me petty and I will call me "truthful". Sticks and stones....

It's all part of the Disney experience just like extended Magic Hours, plus it's only one restaurant and it's in a test phase. You could get it too if you stayed on site, you would just have to pay extra for it, just like what i'm doing.

but who knows, maybe in a few months they will extend the BOG fast pass to everyone and not just people who stay on site, just like the magic pass.

Also your park pass my not be the same price as mine. You may have received a discount on it or received a free ticket somehow, etc... never assume that things will be equal or fair.

 

[slappy magoo]

All Disney is going to do is give off site places the perk of us eating at their establishment instead, when they could have kept us inside the park. Too much punishment for not being a "Disney Resort Guest". It's a real turn off for me. My park pass entrance should have nothing to do with where I sleep at night.

Since I am not having the perks of on site guest, but I paid the same park pass price...I should have gotten a discounted park pass.

I can't wait to go back to being a Royal Caribbean cruiser....they know how to treat their guests!

On the flip flop, if anyone can make reservations for theme park restaurants, some regular onsite guests might decide it's not worth staying onsite, because it's harder and harder to get meal reservations onsite. So they opt to stay offsite and enjoy more meals offsite and that's money out of Disney's pocket. Meanwhile, they're making some offsite guests happy, but that doesn't translate into those unbooked rooms being booked, now is it?

 

[TinkandCrew]

On the flip flop, if anyone can make reservations for theme park restaurants, some regular onsite guests might decide it's not worth staying onsite, because it's harder and harder to get meal reservations onsite. So they opt to stay offsite and enjoy more meals offsite and that's money out of Disney's pocket. Meanwhile, they're making some offsite guests happy, but that doesn't translate into those unbooked rooms being booked, now is it?

Yes...I understand the logic behind it....which is what everyone keeps pointing out. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it or accept. I know Disney doesn't care whether I come back or not and my "small change" off site money means nothing to them. That's why it is my choice to take my "small change" money elsewhere after this year. I'm not going to be bullied into paying outrageous resort prices just to say "Hey, since we paid $2000 more than everyone else....we get to fp+ BOG for lunch!" Whatever floats people's boats....

 

[slappy magoo]

Yes...I understand the logic behind it....which is what everyone keeps pointing out. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it or accept. I know Disney doesn't care whether I come back or not and my "small change" off site money means nothing to them. That's why it is my choice to take my "small change" money elsewhere after this year. I'm not going to be bullied into paying outrageous resort prices just to say "Hey, since we paid $2000 more than everyone else....we get to fp+ BOG for lunch!" Whatever floats people's boats....

Well it wouldn't necessarily be 2 grand more, but even if it were, now you can brag that you didn't pay that extra money just so you can reserve BoG like all those Disney sheep. So…that's something. Congratu…lations?

 

[Tink0102]

BOG doesn't take reservations for lunch. Only dinner. It doesn't matter if you are an on site guest or off. From what I understand it is one of the locations where you can use a FP+ and I thought I read some where that off site guests were able to make those selections in advance also, but I could be wrong about that.

 

[lilclerk]

BOG doesn't take reservations for lunch. Only dinner. It doesn't matter if you are an on site guest or off. From what I understand it is one of the locations where you can use a FP+ and I thought I read some where that off site guests were able to make those selections in advance also, but I could be wrong about that.

Right now, only guests staying onsite can make FP+ reservations for BOG.

 

[cw1982]

BOG doesn't take reservations for lunch. Only dinner. It doesn't matter if you are an on site guest or off. From what I understand it is one of the locations where you can use a FP+ and I thought I read some where that off site guests were able to make those selections in advance also, but I could be wrong about that.

It's not the same system as regular FP+... it's a separate system that's not even linked to MDE. IMO, calling it a FP+ is a bit misleading. Booking that FP+ doesn't take away from your existing 3; it's really more like an ADR, but with a 30-minute arrival window and no credit card guarantee required.

So, no, since it's not part of MDE, offsite guests don't have the right confirmation numbers, etc, to be able to log in to the other website to book it.

 

[Tink0102]

It's not the same system as regular FP+... it's a separate system that's not even linked to MDE. IMO, calling it a FP+ is a bit misleading. Booking that FP+ doesn't take away from your existing 3; it's really more like an ADR, but with a 30-minute arrival window and no credit card guarantee required.

So, no, since it's not part of MDE, offsite guests don't have the right confirmation numbers, etc, to be able to log in to the other website to book it.

Thanks! I'm not sure how the new FP system works yet. But I did know that you couldn't make reservations for lunch at BOG on the website. I do need to figure out the new system before August when we will be able to make our selections for our Oct trip. BOG lunch is one I am hoping to book.

 

[cw1982]

Thanks! I'm not sure how the new FP system works yet. But I did know that you couldn't make reservations for lunch at BOG on the website. I do need to figure out the new system before August when we will be able to make our selections for our Oct trip. BOG lunch is one I am hoping to book.

I was able to book mine earlier this week for my trip in early June... for a while, the system seemed to release dates a month at a time, but now it seems to release them a day at a time. Keep an eye out for the other threads about it... some are in the FP+ forum and some are in the dining forum, but watching those closely as you get closer to your trip should help you to know when you need to start logging into that site. I would say by June, at the latest, you need to be checking on it.

 

[flynnibus]

You also prove my point "more money for Disney" regardless. Hotel perks should be hotel perks and park passes should be park passes

Except the park and hotels do not live in vacuums from each other. You're arguing Disney World should not be Disney World, but rather a bunch of independent, isolated co-residents.

You're arguing Disney shouldn't be promoting Disney's own products.